Warwickhunt
Well-Known Member
Dont think Chelsea would be happy if we totally fucked his confidence up by pushing him to hard!
Dont think Chelsea would be happy if we totally fucked his confidence up by pushing him to hard!Yep.
Said before that there may be an expectation from Chelsea for us to play him as much as possible, but there wouldn't actually be any concrete agreement in place whereby he has to play.
Of course Chelsea want to see him playing regularly, but at the end of the day it will be down to Mark Robins as to whether he picks him or not.
Drop one of our better players to accommodate a new signing.IMO we should largely stick with the team selection that started at Gillingham but revert to a 4-4-2, drop Andreu and start Chaplin upfront with JCH.
Reckon we need to go with JCH and Ponti upfront (unless minor a miracle happens and Kenny Jacket manages to give up CC in time for him to at least get to know the names of his new teammates before Saturday). Can't make it Saturday but have high hopes for some decent commentary on here!!!4-4-2
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Grimmer Willis Hyam Mason
Thomas..Baylis...Doyle.....Shipley
...............Andreu....JCH..............
Rochdale can be tricky buggers
This could be the case . Crystal Palace said they will loan league 1 and 2 team players for free. But you have to play them.
Crystal Palace offer loan players to lower league clubs for free if they play
Anyway im going for 2-1 Sky Blues
Doesn’t it already happen? Liverpool had this system where they fined the club taking their player, if he wasn’t played.Free or not no way would any manager do a deal like that .The player you get in may well turn out not as good as your own player , you have to play them and your lumbered with them.
Don't know if that is the case .Why would any manager be as inane as to do that? You play YOUR best team. Don't do a deal with those sort of conditions A loan has got to be helpful to both side not just the side loaning out the player.Doesn’t it already happen? Liverpool had this system where they fined the club taking their player, if he wasn’t played.
Reckon we need to go with JCH and Ponti upfront (unless minor a miracle happens and Kenny Jacket manages to give up CC in time for him to at least get to know the names of his new teammates before Saturday). Can't make it Saturday but have high hopes for some decent commentary on here!!!
Surely the FL and FA should step in if this kind of thing is going on. How can they maintain the integrity of their competitions if clubs are no longer allowed to play their strongest sides but instead have play selection dictated to them by other clubs.Free or not no way would any manager do a deal like that .The player you get in may well turn out not as good as your own player , you have to play them and your lumbered with them.
4-4-2
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Grimmer Willis Hyam Mason
Thomas..Baylis...Doyle.....Shipley
...............Andreu....JCH..............
Rochdale can be tricky buggers
Deals like this have been going on for years, we first did it in 2010 when we got Danny Ward on loan. You know the maximum you will pay for a player then it reduces the more you play them.Free or not no way would any manager do a deal like that .The player you get in may well turn out not as good as your own player , you have to play them and your lumbered with them.
With Doyle being too slow to get up and down consistently he becomes problematic for me in a 2 man central midfield if Andreu gets dropped for Chaplin. Andreu didn't have a great individual game on Saturday but he floats between the lines and was key to linking up the attacks we had. If he swaps Chaplin in, he will play on the last line of defenders and that will leave a huge area for Bayliss to cover on his own, or JCH will have to play deeper and I'm not really sure that suits his strengths. While Chaplin is something we missed in the squad, there are still issues to resolve with what formation we play and the balance of the personnel within that.I can see Andreu droppng to the bench , really not sure how how he fits in now Chaplin.
Wtf!!!! Seriously??In other news I just found out that possession stats stats in football are just proportion of passes made and nothing to do with how long you have the ball.......mind blown.
Yep, just been listening to someone from Opta explaining it.Wtf!!!! Seriously??
It used to get done chess clock style but it was found to be so subject to human error (normally because that human was also responsible for a bunch of other stuff at the games) that they binned it off in favour of this more accurate method. A minute or 2 of forgetting to press the chess clock vs a missed pass here and there. The latter produces a more accurate statistic. The value of that statistic though is a different debate!In other news I just found out that possession stats stats in football are just proportion of passes made and nothing to do with how long you have the ball.......mind blown.
at the risk of repetition Andreu has never fitted with a 4-4-2, first because of Kelly now because of Bayliss.I can see Andreu droppng to the bench , really not sure how how he fits in now Chaplin.
These are well made points. The only things I would add is do we need Andreu for when we inevitably sell Bayliss. Also regarding Doyle, the logic is Bayliss to the right and Kelly or Ogogo in the middle. Thomas to the benchWith Doyle being too slow to get up and down consistently he becomes problematic for me in a 2 man central midfield if Andreu gets dropped for Chaplin. Andreu didn't have a great individual game on Saturday but he floats between the lines and was key to linking up the attacks we had. If he swaps Chaplin in, he will play on the last line of defenders and that will leave a huge area for Bayliss to cover on his own, or JCH will have to play deeper and I'm not really sure that suits his strengths. While Chaplin is something we missed in the squad, there are still issues to resolve with what formation we play and the balance of the personnel within that.
Will be interesting to see how MR chooses to do it, and how long it takes him to get it right. Last week's 4-4-2 was a relief but Gillingham's long ball suited it perfectly with Doyle buzzing around picking up the knock downs. I think a team that plays through a more mobile midfield will expose a Doyle/Bayliss pairing, although I'm not sure Rochdale are that opposition.
That would workThese are well made points. The only things I would add is do we need Andreu for when we inevitably sell Bayliss. Also regarding Doyle, the logic is Bayliss to the right and Kelly or Ogogo in the middle. Thomas to the bench
Usually I find when people are making suggestions for the team, many of the ideas add up to 13 players.
Worked well in there last week somehowat the risk of repetition Andreu has never fitted with a 4-4-2, first because of Kelly now because of Bayliss.
Worked well in there last week somehow
No it didn't, we drew a game we should have wonWorked well in there last week somehow
Only seen extended highlights but andreu looked in the thick of everything good.Drop one of our better players to accommodate a new signing.
IMO we should largely stick with the team selection that started at Gillingham but revert to a 4-4-2, drop Andreu and start Chaplin upfront with JCH.
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Grimmer Willis Hyam Mason
Bayliss Ogogo Doyle Shipley
Chaplin
JCH
I’m 100% Robins goes with this
Burge
Grimmer Willis Hyam Mason
Bayliss Ogogo Doyle Shipley
Chaplin
JCH
I’m 100% Robins goes with this
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