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Match Thread Coventry City - Swansea City Match Thread - Friday 29th Dec (1 Viewer)

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SBAndy

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #911
Tommo1993 said:
To completely absolve him from blame for the first goal is madness.
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Well I’m mad then.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #912
Evo1883 said:
Well sure allen was shite , I called it at half time .. but why is it hard for fans to accept that playing an off centre ball 4 yards to a central midfielder inside the box is a shitty thing to do ?? Had allen played the same pass you'd be wetting yourself
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Its not a “ball” he’s stretching to intercept a pass.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #913
shmmeee said:
He was garbage tonight and was replaced by a right back rather than bringing Eccles on. But sure.

Allen is a decent AM, he’s a fucking woeful DM and always has been. How he’s not getting the blame for the first says it all.
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I think he's getting blamed .. you're conveniently ignoring it and focusing on the shitty pass ( that adds to pass completion ) that sheaf did

You've also blamed collins for their equaliser
 

Tommo1993

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #914
Two centre halves to pass to. Nah, play it to Allen who’s on his heels with a player already on him.

 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #915
shmmeee said:
Its not a “ball” he’s stretching to intercept a pass.
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Hardly stretched it's a pass all day
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #916
shmmeee said:
He was garbage tonight and was replaced by a right back rather than bringing Eccles on. But sure.

Allen is a decent AM, he’s a fucking woeful DM and always has been. How he’s not getting the blame for the first says it all.
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It's his fault - 100%. He clearly loses control of the ball and Sheaf's interception was fine.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #917
Tommo1993 said:
To completely absolve him from blame for the first goal is madness.
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Really easy pass we did it all night and we’ll continue to do it
Pass was perfect not to fast not to one side allen controls and passes or flings it long
Allen 90: sheaf 10
 
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mmttww

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #918
Mucca Mad Boys said:
We don't create chances down the middle at all which is why both Godden and Simms don't look great. It's no surprise Wright suddenly looks like twice the player when playing down the left. Today's result, like 4-5 times this season, is that we couldn't maintain control in midfield and we're still missing that Hamer archetype. Specifically, someone who can start counter attacks with direct passes from deep. Likewise, it's games like this that show why we moved to 4-2-3-1 in the first place - more bodies in midfield.

We conceded both goals today because we didn't clear our lines effectively. The first goal Allen was trying to be too cute when he wasn't in control of the ball and the 2nd was period of 2-3m. Overall, what frustrated me was that we seemed to play like we were 2 goals ahead and a bit too complacent.

We clearly are good enough to be in the playoffs because we've threw away a good 8 points from late goals conceded.
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About right.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #919
Astute said:
Did you watch the same game as me?
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Beggars belief sheaf was everywhere had a really good game.
Has been off it but he wasn’t today
 
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SBAndy

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #920
Sky Blue Pete said:
Really easy pass we did it all night and we’ll continue to do it
Pass was perfect not to fast not to one side allen controls and passes or flings it long
Allen 90: sheaf 10
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In the interest of balance, you cannot claim the pass was perfect.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #921
Whoever people think are to blame , we've dropped points by making our own problems
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #922
Brighton Sky Blue said:
From my perspective it was a really clumsy and daft challenge to make in that position on 93 minutes.
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Well I said time to earn your money and he didn't Collins, right behind it you could sense it was coming.
Desilva taken out by a.lofted ball for the first.
 

mmttww

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #923
Sheaf was the only player showing some guts at the end as we fell deeper. Kept trying to be brave and get us up the pitch. He was not the problem tonight.
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #924
I don't care how tired Bidwell, COH, MVE, Saka, Lati and today's version of Palmer are, but they have to play 90 mins. No rest allowed because we don't have ideal replacements. Godden, Allen, JDS need to find new teams. Sheaf makes suicidal mistakes that really get on my nerves, If we find a better version of him, I'd be tempted to get rid.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #925
Evo1883 said:
Whoever people think are to blame , we've dropped points by making our own problems
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Yep. All in all it’s a poor result. Swansea were the poorest I’ve ever seen them I think.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #926
Tommo1993 said:
Two centre halves to pass to. Nah, play it to Allen who’s on his heels with a player already on him.

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Allen is the pass to move forward
 
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tommy hutch legend

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #927
Astute said:
Did you watch the same game as me?
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Yes,just my opinion don't think he's as good as alot of fans make out , seems prone to make basic errors at times
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #928
tommy hutch legend said:
Yes,just my opinion don't think he's as good as alot of fans make out , seems prone to make basic errors at times
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What errors tonight?
normally he does but I didn’t think tonight
He was also everywhere all game closing down winning tackles playing passes
Sofa score sheaf 7.8 Allen 5.9
Fairly reflects our two starting midfielders
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #929
Sky Blue Pete said:
What errors tonight?
normally he does but I didn’t think tonight
He was also everywhere all game closing down winning tackles playing passes
Sofa score sheaf 7.8 Allen 5.9
Fairly reflects our two starting midfielders
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He gave away 2 free kicks on the edge of the box within 3 minutes at the death for starters , they scored from 1 ... why does he even challenge rather than stand his man ???
 

Tommo1993

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #930
Sky Blue Pete said:
Allen is the pass to move forward
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Oh come on! Allen is still running backwards when the definite pass is played to him! The dawdling is poor. But the crap decision, something Sheaf gets away with countless times per game, is poorer.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #931
shmmeee said:
No. That free kick was eminently saveable. A FK on the edge of the box isn’t a pen. The xG was 0.16 FFS.
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Higher than if they’d allowed him to shoot
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #932
Evo1883 said:
He gave away 2 free kicks on the edge of the box within 3 minutes at the death for starters , they scored from 1 ... why does he even challenge rather than stand his man ???
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5 of our players challenged that player and most are saying it’s not a free kick
Don’t remember the other one
I do remember him winning possibly 5 tackles including two stopping breakawys
Also numerous interceptions and high 80’s percentage passing
We should have won but it wasn’t the captains fault we didn’t
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #933
Tommo1993 said:
Oh come on! Allen is still running backwards when the definite pass is played to him! The dawdling is poor. But the crap decision, something Sheaf gets away with countless times per game, is poorer.
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There weren’t countless crap decisions today
That’s hyperbole and any neutral watching that game would pick out sheaf saka wright and probably palmer saying they looked good
Allen majorly at fault for goal
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #934
One fan on twitter claims "sheafo" deserves a better fanbase than ours for criticising his mistakes basically.. says he runs the midfield on his own and is top 5 CM in the league ..

It's been liked 90 times , is that where we are at ? Treating a player like he's Lothar Matthaus even if he does silly things ?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #935
Sky Blue Pete said:
5 of our players challenged that player and most are saying it’s not a free kick
Don’t remember the other one
I do remember him winning possibly 5 tackles including two stopping breakawys
Also numerous interceptions and high 80’s percentage passing
We should have won but it wasn’t the captains fault we didn’t
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I can't Pete it's insane sorry
 
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SBAndy

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #936
I’ll also say, the fact Eccles hasn’t been brought on to help see the game out is baffling.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #937
Tommo1993 said:
Two centre halves to pass to. Nah, play it to Allen who’s on his heels with a player already on him.

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If you've watched the replay, you would've seen Sheaf was never in control of the ball so a pass to either of those CBs would be risky. Allen controlled the ball, took another touch before losing control before his third touch in the box. I like Allen, but he's undoubtedly the guilty party here. If he lost the ball after the 1st touch from Sheaf's pass, I'd be willing to agree that Sheaf was at fault. Allen had 2 touches and lost the ball making this 3rd touch without being under that much pressure - that's not acceptable.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #938
Do you remember when fadz got the blame for biamou putting him in the shit at forest a few years back ?

Feels a bit like that
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #939
I'm gonna fuck things up here, but I thought Sheaf was pretty good overall tonight. Unfortunately there were a couple of things he did which contributed (in some way) to them scoring goals. That's a big problem unfortunately. There were other players both better and worse though.

I enjoyed the game a lot, even though it was freezing. Annoyed a bit at the team selection, as it felt like we were handicapping ourselves again. We've clearly got a number one format now, but how we started today wasn't really that. Managed my expectations as a result of it and therefore wasn't that surprised we only drew.

Forget about it for now and go throw the kitchen sink at 'Boro.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #940
Sky Blue Pete said:
Really easy pass we did it all night and we’ll continue to do it
Pass was perfect not to fast not to one side allen controls and passes or flings it long
Allen 90: sheaf 10
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Even if we accept it was a pass, how on earth this is some hospital pass I’ll never know, Allen should be away into acres of space here:

 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #941
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I'm gonna fuck things up here, but I thought Sheaf was pretty good overall tonight. Unfortunately there were a couple of things he did which contributed (in some way) to them scoring goals. That's a big problem unfortunately. There were other players both better and worse though.

I enjoyed the game a lot, even though it was freezing. Annoyed a bit at the team selection, as it felt like we were handicapping ourselves again. We've clearly got a number one format now, but how we started today wasn't really that. Managed my expectations as a result of it and therefore wasn't that surprised we only drew.

Forget about it for now and go throw the kitchen sink at 'Boro.
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We can’t he’s suspended
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #942
Evo1883 said:
Do you remember when fadz got the blame for biamou putting him in the shit at forest a few years back ?

Feels a bit like that
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This is fucking lunacy. It’s nothing like Biamous pass.
 
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Deity

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #943
It was very telling today that every time one of our midfielders or wide players looked up Godden wasn’t a credible option. He can’t run behind, difficult to hit with a cross given his relative height compared to central defender, and he struggles to keep up with play when we break with pace.

I don’t doubt the guy can finish but his all round contribution is no longer the right fit for us.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #944
shmmeee said:
This is fucking lunacy. It’s nothing like Biamous pass.
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No , I mean where fans are refusing to blame one or the other ..
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 29, 2023
  • #945
Evo1883 said:
No , I mean where fans are refusing to blame one or the other ..
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Happy to blame sheaf for the bits he gets wrong
Not much tonight and lots right
Allen was so poor and got an assist for Swansea
 
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