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Match Thread Coventry City - Plymouth Argyle Match Thread - Tuesday 28th Nov (4 Viewers)

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #841
Come on it’s not along the line

clint van damme said:
not sure it was!

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #842
Sky Blue Pete said:
Was right at the other end so I’ve absolutely no idea!
You’ll notice the one defender who puts his hand up and the keeper were everyone else followed their lead
I prefer to believe the independent unbiased professional with the flag than the Plymouth players who’ve conceded a goal and also think he’s more likely correct than them

Having said that if he’s had a bet on a 1-0 or any evidence is available to suggest his bias and corruption then id listen again

Id like to think I’d feel the same the other way around - I wouldn’t !!
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I’m not at all saying he’s a corrupt lineo, just that he made a serious error. It looks comfortably out of play.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #843
Briles said:
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Haha yes, even from this angle, it's definitely out! Ah well, bit of good fortune!
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #844
Sky Blue Pete said:
Come on it’s not along the line
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It's out Pete, bad error by the official. I couldnt care less, his mate on the opposite side should have flagged for a pen first half so swings and roundabouts
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #845
MVE’s left foot is planted parallel to the line and the ball which is parallel to that, is behind it. So it’s not in play
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #846
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m not at all saying he’s a corrupt lineo, just that he made a serious error. It looks comfortably out of play.
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If it was the bloke needs an eye test and he should apologise
I’m with robins if it had gone fully out I suspect it would have been given
Remember the one in the play off semi final!! Lol
Glad it didn’t lead to a goal
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #847
clint van damme said:
It's out Pete, bad error by the official. I couldnt care less, his mate on the opposite side should have flagged for a pen first half so swings and roundabouts
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Maybe but not from the picture you’ve shared
And yep 1-0 we won
We move
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #848

Fucking miles in! Top call lino.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #849
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
So much wrong - you’ve listed three things, two of which I disagree with and one is yet to be proved…

Allen was poor tonight, he wasn’t all over the pitch and didn’t make many runs in behind if any, he gave the ball away so many times and was always a yard off the pace - I agree though that he did track back well at the end and nicked the ball before their player got there, but that’s one thing over 90 minutes;

Tats was playing with a knock, but he still was looking effective, however the goal came from MVE who was on the pitch from the start, and at the time O’Hare was drifting to the left and looking for the ball more - what I assume you didn’t see was that after Tats went off there was little cover on that side coming back for MVE….?

…and for all his good points, Robins has never understood when to make a change and who to take off / bring on, it’s been criticised for seasons, so it hasn’t just happened! like I said, I’m reserving judgment because I’m not sure if the Millwall game was a one off rather than the start of turning the corner, and this hasn’t done much to convince me otherwise, but a win is a win and there are some positives
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I'm assuming you are a parody account?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #850
skyblu3sk said:
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Fucking miles in! Top call lino.
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Let's be honest, for decades that was universally accepted as out of play, then we had that silly arc of the ball bollocks at the world cup and now people are debating incidents like this!
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #851
skyblu3sk said:
I'm assuming you are a parody account?
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Boosh.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #852
clint van damme said:
Let's be honest, for decades that was universally accepted as out of play, then we had that silly arc of the ball bollocks at the world cup and now people are debating incidents like this!
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Yeah, it's nuts.

The Japanese one shouldn't have been allowed in the World Cup either.

It's all gone micro-millimetric mad.

I can't see any official body apologising for that last night. It was just an error and my guess is the assistant's view was blocked a little by the legs of MVE and their defender. He can't give it as out of play if he can't see it can he.

Anyway, we got lucky, but no apology should be forthcoming.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #853
Yeah, it's nuts.
Otis said:
The Japanese one shouldn't have been allowed in the World Cup either.

It's all gone micro-millimetric mad.

I can't see any official body apologising for that last night. It was just an error and my guess is the assistant's view was blocked a little by the legs of MVE and their defender. He can't give it as out of play if he can't see it can he.

Anyway, we got lucky, but no apology should be forthcoming.
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By the same reasoning he can because if MVE is clearly off the pitch and the ball is obscured by him, it must be as well.
 

Covkid1968#

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #854
AussieGreen in peace said:
Hi Argyle Aussie fan here. Hope you don't mind me posting my observations. I'll leave the ref decision aside.
I've seen all Argyle games this season and that was our second worst performance, as all our flair players were off it. In fact I think both teams looked a bit leggy and not on it as maybe Sat/Tues fatigue set in. It was a poor game.

You look very solid, but I was surprised you didn't take the game more to us (aside form first 25 mins), I felt you are set up to not concede rather than dominate games. Your midfield is solid and strong and your Japanese player is quality (why did you take him off?). Comparing you vs other teams, at the moment you look like you are in the 6th - Mid table bracket. Better than Brum, Preston etc. I think you just need a bit more pace up top to feed off Wright (who looks like he could be a 10m player sometime and a 500k player the other, but he will improve I reckon). Best sides we have played this season have been Leeds (lost 2-1), Sunderland (won 2-0), Boro (drew 3-3), Hull (1-1) good on their day and West Brom (0-0) are boring, dull giants, physical but effective. Saints (lost 2-1) are a poor man's Man City and Ipswich (lost 3-2) who while slick and good at attacking I think will drop off. You have a good chance against them Saturday, and you will score against them. Leicester are only top side we still need to play. Huddersfield (won 3-1) and Millwall (somehow we lost 2-0) are worst sides we've seen but not played Rotheram or QPR yet.

I was supporting you guys last season and so sorry you missed out on promotion. You look like you are in the stages of rebuilding this season, a bit more zip and adventure and I can see you top 6.

We were off it today normally we are much more fluid and have more chances but we just need to stay up and build next season and improve our squad. We run a sustainable model so our wage bill is tiny but the club are so well run (proper community club) and our manager is tactically up there with best and a great bloke too. If he can replicate Robins we'll be happy. Good luck for the season, you guys have had a tough time with owners, stadium issues, keen to see clubs like yours and ours succeed vs so many of these other poorly run clubs.
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Thought the Green army were probably the best fans we’ve had at the CBS this season. Vocal throughout and respectful.
As for the football… For me Plymouth are the surprise package this year and look full of confidence. I expected a decent Ipswich season, but thought you’d struggle…that was based on nothing more than our first season back where we were holding onto games by our fingertips!!
 
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skybluelee

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #855
Ian1779 said:
Home against Preston last season I think?
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Think it was Hull?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #856
AussieGreen in peace said:
Hi Argyle Aussie fan here. Hope you don't mind me posting my observations. I'll leave the ref decision aside.
I've seen all Argyle games this season and that was our second worst performance, as all our flair players were off it. In fact I think both teams looked a bit leggy and not on it as maybe Sat/Tues fatigue set in. It was a poor game.

You look very solid, but I was surprised you didn't take the game more to us (aside form first 25 mins), I felt you are set up to not concede rather than dominate games. Your midfield is solid and strong and your Japanese player is quality (why did you take him off?). Comparing you vs other teams, at the moment you look like you are in the 6th - Mid table bracket. Better than Brum, Preston etc. I think you just need a bit more pace up top to feed off Wright (who looks like he could be a 10m player sometime and a 500k player the other, but he will improve I reckon). Best sides we have played this season have been Leeds (lost 2-1), Sunderland (won 2-0), Boro (drew 3-3), Hull (1-1) good on their day and West Brom (0-0) are boring, dull giants, physical but effective. Saints (lost 2-1) are a poor man's Man City and Ipswich (lost 3-2) who while slick and good at attacking I think will drop off. You have a good chance against them Saturday, and you will score against them. Leicester are only top side we still need to play. Huddersfield (won 3-1) and Millwall (somehow we lost 2-0) are worst sides we've seen but not played Rotheram or QPR yet.

I was supporting you guys last season and so sorry you missed out on promotion. You look like you are in the stages of rebuilding this season, a bit more zip and adventure and I can see you top 6.

We were off it today normally we are much more fluid and have more chances but we just need to stay up and build next season and improve our squad. We run a sustainable model so our wage bill is tiny but the club are so well run (proper community club) and our manager is tactically up there with best and a great bloke too. If he can replicate Robins we'll be happy. Good luck for the season, you guys have had a tough time with owners, stadium issues, keen to see clubs like yours and ours succeed vs so many of these other poorly run clubs.
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Said elsewhere but you look very much like us first season up, it might get a bit close for comfort but you’ll be fine and will push on next season. If we can bring 1500 down to Home Park for the return leg I’ll be impressed!
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #857
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yeah, it's nuts.

By the same reasoning he can because if MVE is clearly off the pitch and the ball is obscured by him, it must be as well.
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That would be guesswork though would'nt it? Assumption.

MVE could be clearly off the pitch and the ball, not.

Anyway, I don't think there will be any apologies forthcoming.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #858
Ive been critical of Haji this season but I think we just have to accept at times he looks clumsy and makes some really strange decisions but he keeps getting chances and on a lucky day he takes all the chances, so lets hope Robins gets into his head and makes him believe he's a world beater and not a carpet beater, Godden on the otherhand has chances created for him but is just way way too slow to take them, he had at least 2 chances last night where he was just outpaced and I don't think making him captain has improved him, he seems to rant and rave if the ball isn't passed to him and at 1 point last night he was berating one of our players (can't remember who it was) for playing a good pass but Godden didn't move for it, many times it has been said that if he isn't scoring he doesn't really add to the team and its starting to become more apparent every game now!
 
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Macca

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #859
clint van damme said:
There's a severe dearth of final 3rd quality in this league this season.
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Very true. Millwall and Plymouth were noticeably poor in that respect
 

Offhegoes

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #860
Few points...

1) Ball was out. However West Brom and Preston's goals against us recently shouldn't of been allowed, so we were due one.
2) Reminded me a lot of many games last season, where we were not great, but solid, and I always had a feeling we would win it, despite the first 15-20 mins of the 2nd half being shocking.
3) We looked more dangerous when Simms went down the middle. Suddenly we had a focal point up top, and Plymouth were really worried about him. I love Matty G, but this game was more suited to Simms. Shame it took Robins 70 mins to see that too.
4) Ayari - I hope Palmer is back on Saturday, as this guy shouldn't be on the pitch for us
 
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Macca

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #861
clint van damme said:
Let's be honest, for decades that was universally accepted as out of play, then we had that silly arc of the ball bollocks at the world cup and now people are debating incidents like this!
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Another example of making things complicated like “arm in a natural position”
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #862
SBAndy said:
Don’t know where to put this, so here will do:

Godden completed 5 of 11 attempted passes in 80 mins.
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I think Simms should start over Godden tbh, I get that Godden scored 1 of the goals against Milwall but to me Simms looks more threatening in the box with the ball at his feet, he runs at defenders with pace and has got a bit of strength/height that probably adds something extra to our game. Some of the runs around defenders that Simms made in the Stoke game were pretty decent tbf and whilst this is based on no evidence whatsoever I get the feeling that Godden and Wright’s link-up play doesn’t work well. It’s not too much of a criticism as we played pretty well but I would just rather see 3 pacy forwards and see what Simms can offer in that front 3 than see Godden every single week.
 
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the rumpo kid

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #863
Was the ball out ? Looks like it from the angles we're seeing but only a millimetre of the ball has to be on the line for the ball to be in. Just look at any corner being taken anywhere. GOAL ! Fuck the whining sailors.
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #864
The 4-3-3 system has worked at turning around our form, but we gave up a fair few chances last night, and against Millwall on Sat.
Going to a bang in form Ipswich on Sat, on a ground we've never done well at, I would consider moving back to a wing back system, and a box midfield.

Collins
Thomas Fadz Kitching
MVE Dasilva
Sheaf Eccles
Allen Sakamoto
Wright
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #865
Fans when it’s an offside: “oh come on, it should have to be clear, silly to look at a still frame and say it was a CM offside. Ruining the game”

Fans when it’s out for a throwin/GK:

 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #866
Sky Blue Pete said:
Nor me
So close
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I was in line with it - it was over the line and everyone was assuming it wouldn’t be allowed

The linesman was hopelessly poor all game

I don’t understand why fans desperately try and justify clearly awful decisions when they go for us and try and justify the other way round when they go against us - we’d be very angry if that was the other way round
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #867
Offhegoes said:
The 4-3-3 system has worked at turning around our form, but we gave up a fair few chances last night, and against Millwall on Sat.
Going to a bang in form Ipswich on Sat, on a ground we've never done well at, I would consider moving back to a wing back system, and a box midfield.

Collins
Thomas Fadz Kitching
MVE Dasilva
Sheaf Eccles
Allen Sakamoto
Wright
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No!

4334lyfe
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #868
Offhegoes said:
The 4-3-3 system has worked at turning around our form, but we gave up a fair few chances last night, and against Millwall on Sat.
Going to a bang in form Ipswich on Sat, on a ground we've never done well at, I would consider moving back to a wing back system, and a box midfield.

Collins
Thomas Fadz Kitching
MVE Dasilva
Sheaf Eccles
Allen Sakamoto
Wright
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Even if you tweaked the system because your worried about getting beat, why would you drop Bidwell who is defensively much better and put Dasilva back in at LWB?

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
 
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glasgowfan

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #869
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m not at all saying he’s a corrupt lineo, just that he made a serious error. It looks comfortably out of play.
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From that angle, it looks like it could be out of play, but it's hard to be certain. You would need a view along the line or goal-line technology to be sure. It also looks like the players' legs would have blocked the lineman's view so he would have to guess if it was in or out. And not easy in real-time
 
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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #870
Offhegoes said:
The 4-3-3 system has worked at turning around our form, but we gave up a fair few chances last night, and against Millwall on Sat.
Going to a bang in form Ipswich on Sat, on a ground we've never done well at, I would consider moving back to a wing back system, and a box midfield.

Collins
Thomas Fadz Kitching
MVE Dasilva
Sheaf Eccles
Allen Sakamoto
Wright
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We were shipping goals until we went with 4 at the back and have 3 clean sheets in a row since. I really hope we don't.
 
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jordan210

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #871
If I was a Plymouth fan id be equally annoyed that the whole team stopped to appeal and not play to the whistle.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #872
Offhegoes said:
The 4-3-3 system has worked at turning around our form, but we gave up a fair few chances last night, and against Millwall on Sat.
Going to a bang in form Ipswich on Sat, on a ground we've never done well at, I would consider moving back to a wing back system, and a box midfield.

Collins
Thomas Fadz Kitching
MVE Dasilva
Sheaf Eccles
Allen Sakamoto
Wright
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2bf we won last time we went there
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #873
Managed to watch most of the game last night and thought the following:

* The goal did look like it came from the ball being out. That said, it's hard to definitely say without a 'down the line' view. Although the linos were pretty poor all game, it's hard to blame them for that one as his obstruction would've been be blocked by the players. Not sure how the refs view was though.

* The 3 lads we've got from Barnsley (well, one from Burnley but you know what I mean), all seem to be developing into a strong and impressive unit at the back. Kitchings presence and range of passing is great.

* I thought Bidwell was quietly excellent last night. Some great deliveries into the box - he's definitely preferable to Da Silva.

* Really pleased for Wright. Yes he makes some what look like simple errors but he's still very early on in his Cov career and Gyo took ages to get proper firing for us. If you'd have said at the start of the season that he'd have 5 goals from his first 10 games, we would've taken it.

* Gooden was quiet and ineffective last night. But he's still a goal threat when he's got a chance. Just an off night from him last night. I'd keep the same starting line up on Saturday as Ipswich. We've got two wins with that line up so assuming Tats is ok, I'd go with the same again.

* I don't get the 'happy for CO'H to go in January' malarkey. I get the contract situation but that aside, he was quite clearly and important part of our team before he got injured. He's not going to be up to speed for a couple of months (at least). He's a quality player and one we should most definitely be looking to tie down on a new contract.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #874
Skyblueweeman said:
Managed to watch most of the game last night and thought the following:

* The goal did look like it came from the ball being out. That said, it's hard to definitely say without a 'down the line' view. Although the linos were pretty poor all game, it's hard to blame them for that one as his obstruction would've been be blocked by the players. Not sure how the refs view was though.

* The 3 lads we've got from Barnsley (well, one from Burnley but you know what I mean), all seem to be developing into a strong and impressive unit at the back. Kitchings presence and range of passing is great.

* I thought Bidwell was quietly excellent last night. Some great deliveries into the box - he's definitely preferable to Da Silva.

* Really pleased for Wright. Yes he makes some what look like simple errors but he's still very early on in his Cov career and Gyo took ages to get proper firing for us. If you'd have said at the start of the season that he'd have 5 goals from his first 10 games, we would've taken it.

* Gooden was quiet and ineffective last night. But he's still a goal threat when he's got a chance. Just an off night from him last night. I'd keep the same starting line up on Saturday as Ipswich. We've got two wins with that line up so assuming Tats is ok, I'd go with the same again.

* I don't get the 'happy for CO'H to go in January' malarkey. I get the contract situation but that aside, he was quite clearly and important part of our team before he got injured. He's not going to be up to speed for a couple of months (at least). He's a quality player and one we should most definitely be looking to tie down on a new contract.
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He’s not going to sign though, that’s clear. And we’ve moved on from him as a side with no obvious place in the team for him.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Nov 29, 2023
  • #875
Grendel said:
I was in line with it - it was over the line and everyone was assuming it wouldn’t be allowed

The linesman was hopelessly poor all game

I don’t understand why fans desperately try and justify clearly awful decisions when they go for us and try and justify the other way round when they go against us - we’d be very angry if that was the other way round
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Lol I love how you keep saying you were in line with it like an old blokes view from the stands is somehow definitive versus all of the camera angles being debated
 
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