Match Thread Coventry City - Middlesbrough Match Thread - Monday 16th Feb (50 Viewers)

mmttww

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Not sure what Thomas and Kitching have done to deserve to come straight in tbh.

Played in the team that was top of the league for a chunk of the season, making easily observable contributions with and without the ball. Both deserved to be dropped to get a msg across. I don't think we win on Mon with Latibeaudiere and Woolfenden. Happy to be proven wrong, but that's my take.
 

shmmeee

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Played in the team that was top of the league for a chunk of the season, making easily observable contributions with and without the ball. Both deserved to be dropped to get a msg across. I don't think we win on Mon with Latibeaudiere and Woolfenden. Happy to be proven wrong, but that's my take.

What in your opinion would Lats and Woolf do differently to keep their place? If nothing what message does that send? “They were in the team when we were doing well and that matters but them being in the team when we are doing badly doesn’t” seems like some motivated reasoning. Oxford or not the fact is Kitching and Thomas have been conceding goals regularly that they individually are to blame for for weeks.
 

clint van damme

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What in your opinion would Lats and Woolf do differently to keep their place? If nothing what message does that send? “They were in the team when we were doing well and that matters but them being in the team when we are doing badly doesn’t” seems like some motivated reasoning. Oxford or not the fact is Kitching and Thomas have been conceding goals regularly that they individually are to blame for for weeks.

Lati and Wolfenden did well in a backs to the wall 10 man rear guard action v Southampton and on Saturday when they had virtually nothing to do.

Monday will be nothing like either of those games and Kitching and Thomas have done well in games which will be more akin to what we can expect v boro.

Though I take your point about their recent performances.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a mix and match approach with Kitching and Lati starting.
 

stupot07

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What in your opinion would Lats and Woolf do differently to keep their place? If nothing what message does that send? “They were in the team when we were doing well and that matters but them being in the team when we are doing badly doesn’t” seems like some motivated reasoning. Oxford or not the fact is Kitching and Thomas have been conceding goals regularly that they individually are to blame for for weeks.
It's so difficult because Oxford offered nothing, there were some noticeable differences having those 2 in defense though - they play much slower and safer than Thomas and Kitching, yes that can get us into trouble, but Kitching in particular brings the ball into midfield a lot and hits a little of switches, and the lack of attacking presence from set pieces.

Their two best games were Oxford who offered nothing, and Southampton to which we were backs to the wall defending the box having gone down to 10 men, so they didn't have to worry about movement or pace running in behind.
 

Ipad Boro

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no offence but hope you’re right, should be a cracker 👍
None taken, it's in your benefit to do so.

On paper it should be a great match at least. Either we turn up and Hellball the thing like against the Blades or, aided and abetted by the power of Hoodoo, the Cov from October suddenly rocks up instead and performs out of their boots, earning a win or at least a high score draw if that doesn't happen.

Or I suppose it could also be an absolute 0-0 snoozefest. But in reality I think that's the least likely result going.
 

skybluelee

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None taken, it's in your benefit to do so.

On paper it should be a great match at least. Either we turn up and Hellball the thing like against the Blades or, aided and abetted by the power of Hoodoo, the Cov from October suddenly rocks up instead and performs out of their boots, earning a win or at least a high score draw if that doesn't happen.

Or I suppose it could also be an absolute 0-0 snoozefest. But in reality I think that's the least likely result going.
Oh mate, we're not keeping a clean sheet. 🤣
 

shmmeee

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It's so difficult because Oxford offered nothing, there were some noticeable differences having those 2 in defense though - they play much slower and safer than Thomas and Kitching, yes that can get us into trouble, but Kitching in particular brings the ball into midfield a lot and hits a little of switches, and the lack of attacking presence from set pieces.

Their two best games were Oxford who offered nothing, and Southampton to which we were backs to the wall defending the box having gone down to 10 men, so they didn't have to worry about movement or pace running in behind.

We’ve not lost a game or conceded more than one while Lats has played and that includes two parachute clubs and Millwall. Genuinely curious what people want to see other than him perform when asked to. Your argument seems to be “they were good when they had nothing to do and when they had lots to do so it doesn’t count” and I honestly don’t get it.
 

Skyblueabo1111

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Played in the team that was top of the league for a chunk of the season, making easily observable contributions with and without the ball. Both deserved to be dropped to get a msg across. I don't think we win on Mon with Latibeaudiere and Woolfenden. Happy to be proven wrong, but that's my take.
Played in the team that has dropped so many points since end of Nov. Sending off, giving ball away easily. Neither have been on form for 6/7 weeks.
 

Graham64

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It's so difficult because Oxford offered nothing, there were some noticeable differences having those 2 in defense though - they play much slower and safer than Thomas and Kitching, yes that can get us into trouble, but Kitching in particular brings the ball into midfield a lot and hits a little of switches, and the lack of attacking presence from set pieces.

Their two best games were Oxford who offered nothing, and Southampton to which we were backs to the wall defending the box having gone down to 10 men, so they didn't have to worry about movement or pace running in behind.
For half a game at Southampton they had to worry about people running in behind
 

robbiethemole

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Hellberg Manager of the month and Browne Player award, let’s hope the curse is still in effect for them

edit; oops, only nominated, wishful thinking hahaha
 
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HJones23

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This very much has a shit of bust feel about it even though nothing will be decided off the back of the result. Boro will be flying, but its the type of match I would expect us to be well up for so confident we at least avoid defeat. It's the following week at WBA & away to Sheff Utd that worry me more.

I think Latts deserves to keep his place, but I would like to see Thomas back in the side. Simms has also got to start, even if it's just to light a fire under Haji for a 30 minute cameo similar to Leicester.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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None taken, it's in your benefit to do so.

On paper it should be a great match at least. Either we turn up and Hellball the thing like against the Blades or, aided and abetted by the power of Hoodoo, the Cov from October suddenly rocks up instead and performs out of their boots, earning a win or at least a high score draw if that doesn't happen.

Or I suppose it could also be an absolute 0-0 snoozefest. But in reality I think that's the least likely result going.
There is no ‘hoodoo’. We’ve just beaten you a few times over the last few years during times where we’ve either been a better side or been in better form. Our historical head to head record has us dead even and you’ve beaten us 3 times since we were promoted back to the Championship.
 

mmttww

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What in your opinion would Lats and Woolf do differently to keep their place? If nothing what message does that send?

quote below sums up why I'd change back and tbh I don't give a f*ck what msg it sends to the two dropping out. I want us to win on Mon and I don't see that happening with the same CBs as vs. Oxford.

Lati and Wolfenden did well in a backs to the wall 10 man rear guard action v Southampton and on Saturday when they had virtually nothing to do.

Monday will be nothing like either of those games and Kitching and Thomas have done well in games which will be more akin to what we can expect v boro.

I'm more on your side of the argument than I think you appreciate re: Thomas and Kitching's defensive shortcomings but all that's on my mind is how we're most likely to get a result on Mon.
 

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