Not forgive. We never have to forgive sisu. We have to forget the shit and get behind the 11 lads on the pitch. They say football is nothing without supporters. In our case that is literal, we're the only thing keeping the club alive.It is time to forget about the legals and get behind the lads. Lets have an enjoyable season in Division 4. Lets enjoy going to grounds where the Butts would compare nicely. It is time to party at games. We deserve it after what we have been through.
Erm, you said forget.
Oh yes. Can't wait for the season to start. Looking forward to this one more than any other season for years. The early signings got me going. It doesn't seem like my club. It is time to get rid of the no top 6 finish since before most of our supporters can remember or were even born.Great post Astute. Spot on.
We can't influence the off the field matters so time to re-focus on MR and the team as the season ahead. This *could* be our most important season in years. Who knows what a promotion could do for the club.
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Not forgive anyone more like. Unless they right any wrong they have done. And.I can't see that happening.Not forgive. We never have to forgive sisu. We have to forget the shit and get behind the 11 lads on the pitch. They say football is nothing without supporters. In our case that is literal, we're the only thing keeping the club alive.
They have a strategy? You learn something new every day :smuggrin:It will be interesting to see if SISU adjust their strategy. Given that they need to find somewhere for the club to play for 2018-19 and that will require partnership working. Something they've failed consistently to embrace.
Hopefully they will now realise that repeating the same tactic and hoping for a different result is the definition of stupidity!
Oh yes there is just look at the picture of joy coming out of the court she was having group hugs with some supporters if you look in the background you can clearly see one prominent one.Today was a big loss to you sisu supporters.
oh yeah, there aren't any.
Oh yes there is just look at the picture of joy coming out of the court she was having group hugs with some supporters if you look in the background you can clearly see one prominent one.
Shame our owners only see that when they need a cash injection or someone to blame.Not forgive. We never have to forgive sisu. We have to forget the shit and get behind the 11 lads on the pitch. They say football is nothing without supporters. In our case that is literal, we're the only thing keeping the club alive.
Seconded, who?!?Who?
A big player in old the SCG.Who?
Well by all accounts they were hugging and laughing at the interval, funny how they all looked miserable and teary at the end.........Seconded, who?!?
Mind you, my one entrance inside Northampton there was some bloke shaking Fisher's hand very vigorously. Guess it takes all sorts!
They have got to get out of that hole first.Any chance of a brief update as been very busy the last few days, it seems like SISU have a stronger legal case than expected
Yes they did have a stronger case than expected. It was only very weakAny chance of a brief update as been very busy the last few days, it seems like SISU have a stronger legal case than expected
Which picture is this then?Oh yes there is just look at the picture of joy coming out of the court she was having group hugs with some supporters if you look in the background you can clearly see one prominent one.
Any chance of a brief update as been very busy the last few days, it seems like SISU have a stronger legal case than expected
I think they might win the appeal to have JR2. But I can't see any way that they would win JR2. As we should all know by now it is how it was at the time and not in the future. CCC got a valuation. They got the top end of the valuation. And it doesn't look like they can change what it is about.The courts will say no appeal so Sisu will take the courts to courts to get an appeal, if they didn't how would we spend our summers.
I think they might win the appeal to have JR2. But I can't see any way that they would win JR2. As we should all know by now it is how it was at the time and not in the future. CCC got a valuation. They got the top end of the valuation. And it doesn't look like they can change what it is about.
Commercial properties are totally different to residential properties. So not sure as have only had dealings with residential. There are laws covering it. But you can come to an agreement with residential. But coming to an agreement means ground rent can go up if you agree. Take the official route and it should end up as peppercorn rent. So maybe offering a bit more could get you the freehold. This makes it a bit more saleable.The main argument seems to just be an extension on JR1 in terms of the council giving Wasps state aid, just from a slightly different angle. Unfortunately it seems SISU want to continue probing for holes in the sale process in order to get a return. However, as Astute has said CCC got a professional valuation for both the land and lease extension and in the end took the higher end for both...
Although I agree that shortly after the purchase, and then lease extension, the land value seems to have jumped by a significant amount... Is that an issue with the initial valuations by KPMG?
In London where lease extensions are pretty standard, is the lease value calculated directly by the value it would add to the overall land value, or is it another amount? It is immaterial but I'm just interested in how lease valuations are completed generally.
Have to say, on the surface this one disappoints me more. You could understand, even after the verdict, why they wanted to test with JR1, but for this one, with knowledge that SISU were kind of litigious, it was always going to be the case that CCC would be double checking, triple checking everything.I was thinking the opposite myself. If they've spent 3 years preparing what they put forward it goes to show just what a hollow case they have. It's based on what happened after the event not what led to the event and the decision made that they were questioning. from my understanding thats the complete opposite to what a JR is supposed to be for.
Have to say, on the surface this one disappoints me more. You could understand, even after the verdict, why they wanted to test with JR1, but for this one, with knowledge that SISU were kind of litigious, it was always going to be the case that CCC would be double checking, triple checking everything.
And they've had plenty of time to come up with an argument, and seem to have failed dismally!
The conspiracy theorist in me says it drags it out a bit if you lose the first, but win the appeal.
The one where Gilbert is trying to interview her and she is hiding her face with some paper so as to not frighten the kids.Which picture is this then?
The conspiracy theorist in me says it drags it out a bit if you lose the first, but win the appeal.
The striking thing for me hasn't been the verdicts, its the manner of their defeats, it's the sheerI think they might win the appeal to have JR2. But I can't see any way that they would win JR2. As we should all know by now it is how it was at the time and not in the future. CCC got a valuation. They got the top end of the valuation. And it doesn't look like they can change what it is about.
Where is Nick? Same holiday as Les?
Any chance of a brief update as been very busy the last few days, it seems like SISU have a stronger legal case than expected
The main argument seems to just be an extension on JR1 in terms of the council giving Wasps state aid, just from a slightly different angle. Unfortunately it seems SISU want to continue probing for holes in the sale process in order to get a return. However, as Astute has said CCC got a professional valuation for both the land and lease extension and in the end took the higher end for both...
Although I agree that shortly after the purchase, and then lease extension, the land value seems to have jumped by a significant amount... Is that an issue with the initial valuations by KPMG?
In London where lease extensions are pretty standard, is the lease value calculated directly by the value it would add to the overall land value, or is it another amount? It is immaterial but I'm just interested in how lease valuations are completed generally.
Smaller entities may well be, but in this case they have taken on a fairly bigWonder how many people in the future will be intimidated
Your house belongs to you, the Ricoh belonged to the people of Coventry ccc were supposed to act in the people's best interest
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The judge listened to all the arguments from lawyers for both sides
After a short break he ruled against SISU and their allies in all cases
His language and brevity in delivering the verdicts suggest to me that only an idiotic organisation would bother with an appeal
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