There was/is a significant minority of city fans who were of the opinion that CCC and Higgs have been holding the club back.
The councils hold over the club has now gone. You should all be rejoicing, so why all the negativity?
Some were of the opinion that CCC shouldnt be involved in the running of a stadium, they no longer are. Again you should be happy.
Going forward sisu/ccfc are all on their own. No one to hold them back, no one to try and force a change of ownership (according to some).
Let's see how well the club prospers under sisu control with no outside interference. Let's see how well it now does with funding it's own stadium (without getting the local authority to build it for them), and let's see how well they negotiate with a private landlord who doesn't need to worry about unpopularity amongst ccfc fans.
what a total utter load of bollocks u spout! i fuckin hate the council n the lot of em, im no sisu supporter never went 6fields just a supporter of ccfc n the council hav well n truely fucked us over sellin our home ground to the bloody toffs! i feel i have now lost our footie team as we wont ever play in cov again! so gloat be happy at the downfall of our club! glad u find this all so entertaining while most of us are devastated!
They will only find someone else to blame as long as it is not their beloved Sisu.
They will say well sisu are partly to blame but blah blah blah
He's confused everyone, sisu have brought us to where we are now, and he's fucking confused!I am a bit confused, it reads as if you want it to fail? Very strange post.
- Nobody loves SISUk
- All parties do have to shoulder some of the blame in this mess.
- Nobody loves SISU
Maybe not Nick, but there are a few joyboys that spout her mantra on here regularly, stating that they support CCFC not SISU, and saying they know SISU are not blameless, yet rarely, if ever, finding any fault with anything SISU say or do.
So because somebody doesn't go on and on about sisu they are joyboy, yet somebody pretty much says they want the club to fail and that's ok?Maybe not Nick, but there are a few joyboys that spout her mantra on here regularly, stating that they support CCFC not SISU, and saying they know SISU are not blameless, yet rarely, if ever, finding any fault with anything SISU say or do.
I am a bit confused, it reads as if you want it to fail? Very strange post.
So because somebody doesn't go on and on about sisu they are joyboy, yet somebody pretty much says they want the club to fail and that's ok?
So just because I have pointed out that sisu now have no one else to blame for future failures means I want the club to fail?
what a total utter load of bollocks u spout! i fuckin hate the council n the lot of em, im no sisu supporter never went 6fields just a supporter of ccfc n the council hav well n truely fucked us over sellin our home ground to the bloody toffs! i feel i have now lost our footie team as we wont ever play in cov again! so gloat be happy at the downfall of our club! glad u find this all so entertaining while most of us are devastated!
what a total utter load of bollocks u spout! i fuckin hate the council n the lot of em, im no sisu supporter never went 6fields just a supporter of ccfc n the council hav well n truely fucked us over sellin our home ground to the bloody toffs! i feel i have now lost our footie team as we wont ever play in cov again! so gloat be happy at the downfall of our club! glad u find this all so entertaining while most of us are devastated!
It had to go to someone and Sisu never wanted it,
There was/is a significant minority of city fans who were of the opinion that CCC and Higgs
have been holding the club back.
The councils hold over the club has now gone. You should all be rejoicing, so why all the negativity?
Some were of the opinion that CCC shouldnt be involved in the running of a stadium, they no longer are. Again you should be happy.
Going forward sisu/ccfc are all on their own. No one to hold them back, no one to try and force a change of ownership (according to some).
Let's see how well the club prospers under sisu control with no outside interference. Let's see how well it now does with funding it's own stadium (without getting the local authority to build it for them), and let's see how well they negotiate with a private landlord who doesn't need to worry about unpopularity amongst ccfc fans.
So just because I have pointed out that sisu now have no one else to blame for future failures means I want the club to fail?
There was/is a significant minority of city fans who were of the opinion that CCC and Higgs have been holding the club back.
The councils hold over the club has now gone. You should all be rejoicing, so why all the negativity?
Some were of the opinion that CCC shouldnt be involved in the running of a stadium, they no longer are. Again you should be happy.
Going forward sisu/ccfc are all on their own. No one to hold them back, no one to try and force a change of ownership (according to some).
Let's see how well the club prospers under sisu control with no outside interference. Let's see how well it now does with funding it's own stadium (without getting the local authority to build it for them), and let's see how well they negotiate with a private landlord who doesn't need to worry about unpopularity amongst ccfc fans.
Wisher and Faggott
Well it depends doesn't it. We still have landlords, there are still constraints aren't they? ACL / Wasps could still fuck the club over couldn't they?
This was probably you while writing that post, which is why I said that:
Wow, you really hate our club don't you? Why are you on here?
As apposed to owners who only ever have done and probably only ever will fuck the club over.
I know which one I'm more concerned about and it ain't the landlords. Even when the current rental deal runs out it's still the ability of Joy "I'm on the takeover panel don't you know, despite being completely out manoeuvred and not a thing I can do to stop it after years of hard work engineering the take over of a stadium and the people who out manoeuvred me also got a better deal than I could have ever dreamed of" Seppala and her band of merry men to do a deal that won't cripple the club.
Please explain to me how there is a way forward with SISU?
Well it depends doesn't it. We still have landlords, there are still constraints aren't they? ACL / Wasps could still fuck the club over couldn't they?
This was probably you while writing that post, which is why I said that:
Smug because I'm raising a point you disagree with?
I can't remember saying SISU are the savours going forward, I said that just because somebody else now owns the Ricoh it doesn't make much difference does it in terms of "constraints".
If the club had bought the Ricoh I agree there would be no excuse as they really wouldn't have landlords as such would they? Who is to say Wasps won't screw the football club over?
There was NEVER a 'significant' minority that blamed ACL/CCC exclusively - one or two individuals perhaps, but I've never actually met one. What some people have said is that the council have not been blameless. While it may have been possible to sympathise with them for having to deal with SISU and their silly games, especially during the rent strike and all that nonsense that followed - the fact remains that at the beginning of this season certain individuals got around the table and negotiated a return, with talk of 'building bridges'. Weeks later the council have off-loaded the Ricoh for peanuts in a deal that looks increasingly like it was driven by spite and personal grudges (it was hardly a commercial triumph) - a deal that has the knock on effect of harming our local rugby club too.
SISU have hardly been screaming from the rooftops about it either - their initial reaction was one of indifference. The people that are really unhappy are the supporters, because the door to ownership has been slammed shut - and so too has the prospect of ridding the club of SISU anytime soon. The people you speak of all want new ownership, and now that looks increasingly unlikely in the short term. Rejoicing? Grow up - why we any of us be rejoicing at the prospect of spending the forseeable future in this league or lower?
But hey, I know that for some people it matters more that SISU are seen have lost out than it does our club have a positive future. Pantomime season has come early.
No, smug because of the way it was worded. There is a difference.
There was NEVER a 'significant' minority that blamed ACL/CCC exclusively - one or two individuals perhaps, but I've never actually met one. What some people have said is that the council have not been blameless. While it may have been possible to sympathise with them for having to deal with SISU and their silly games, especially during the rent strike and all that nonsense that followed - the fact remains that at the beginning of this season certain individuals got around the table and negotiated a return, with talk of 'building bridges'. Weeks later the council have off-loaded the Ricoh for peanuts in a deal that looks increasingly like it was driven by spite and personal grudges (it was hardly a commercial triumph) - a deal that has the knock on effect of harming our local rugby club too.
SISU have hardly been screaming from the rooftops about it either - their initial reaction was one of indifference. The people that are really unhappy are the supporters, because the door to ownership has been slammed shut - and so too has the prospect of ridding the club of SISU anytime soon. The people you speak of all want new ownership, and now that looks increasingly unlikely in the short term. Rejoicing? Grow up - why we any of us be rejoicing at the prospect of spending the forseeable future in this league or lower?
But hey, I know that for some people it matters more that SISU are seen have lost out than it does our club have a positive future. Pantomime season has come early.
- Nobody loves SISU
- All parties do have to shoulder some of the blame in this mess.
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