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  • Start date Jan 26, 2020
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ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #631
Looks like the first famous person to get it is legitimately famous, Tom Hanks
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #632
ajsccfc said:
Looks like the first famous person to get it is legitimately famous, Tom Hanks
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He’s diabetic too I think, however I doubt the high healthcare costs in USA are going to pose him too many problems.
 

Sky_Blue_Daz

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #633
I think the schools will be closed next ,
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #634
NBA season has been suspended indefinitely.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #635
A bit more on that graph people have been arguing over.

 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #636
Ring Of Steel said:
Apparently they’re closing here on Friday for a month, but that’s yet to be confirmed.
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Heard that yesterday evening too but for 2 weeks, know people who’ve been informed.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #637
Grendel said:
I don’t value the dogs any less worthy
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I value human.life more. Not that I condone the treatment of dogs hilighted.

As someone who eats meat and dairy I also realise that's hypocritical of me.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #638
Patient at George Elliot now confirmed as having died of the virus.

RIP.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #639
The Extraordinary Decisions Facing Italian Doctors
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #640
Tom hanks has it, not so big now?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #641
chiefdave said:
A bit more on that graph people have been arguing over.

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He's trying justify his pony graph
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #642
Nick said:
People are going mad for schools to close.

What happens when NHS staff can't go into work because they have their kids?

Isn't it a bit too early to start shutting the country down?
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Conflicting advice. that Medium post lays out some pretty scary stats on unknown cases and the death rate when you don’t take measures early being five times higher.

chiefdave said:
A bit more on that graph people have been arguing over.

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Can’t see how people are whining at log scales this thread is spot on it’s the correct way to display exponential data.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #643
shmmeee said:
Conflicting advice. that Medium post lays out some pretty scary stats on unknown cases and the death rate when you don’t take measures early being five times higher.



Can’t see how people are whining at log scales this thread is spot on it’s the correct way to display exponential data.
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Because it's designed to be misleading
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #644
David O'Day said:
Because it's designed to be misleading
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How so?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #645
Because it gives the impression countries such as the uk have closer in case numbers to Italy etc than they are. There is no need for them as it's not a scale but a linear number the value is on. The number of cases doesn't go up in the power of anything this the only reason I can see to us it us to condense the y axis to make it look like the number of cases in various countries is closer together.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #646
Ring Of Steel said:
There is no response. Nothing. Everyone else has taken measures, but not us apart from to talk about the finances.
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You are utterly incorrect on this point, RoS. PHE, the Chief Medical Officers, Chief Scientific Advisers and the like have been observing and monitoring the situation on an hourly basis. They have planned for this type of eventuality for a decade, and the algorithms and mathematical modelling of the epidemiology underpins the entire contain, delay, research strategy. WHEN the numbers hit trigger points which indicate the contain phase has reached its conclusion, the advice will change. The public and media trying to predict or cry for that switch are not helping.
Everything on the BBC is still clickbait with rhetorical questions as headlines!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #647
David O'Day said:
Because it gives the impression countries such as the uk have closer in case numbers to Italy etc than they are. There is no need for them as it's not a scale but a linear number the value is on. The number of cases doesn't go up in the power of anything this the only reason I can see to us it us to condense the y axis to make it look like the number of cases in various countries is closer together.
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Constant doubling at the same rate is also exponential, it doesn’t have to be to the power. In the U.K. cases have been doubling every 4 days or so for example.

Look at the uptick here and tell me that’s not an exponential function:

 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #648
There is no constant doubling. That is utter bollocks according to the data you must posted
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #649
So now have a sore throat and wheezy chest, I’m doomed!
 
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Corrado

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #650
That's my holiday to the US f**cked - meant to be flying out 11/04 - fine as it stands now and UK and Ireland not banned but that is bound to change soon - Plus some of my party will have been in France within 14 days prior to flying out, so rules them out now!
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #651
Covstu said:
So now have a sore throat and wheezy chest, I’m doomed!
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Can I have your slippers?
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #652
Otis said:
Can I have your slippers?
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Yes no bother fella. Pop round when you get a min
 
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Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #653
Should have banned travel from all infected countries immediately and have checks at the boarders.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #654
Anyone else think there is more to this than a bat being ate in a market? Not really a conspiracy guy but it is odd
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #655
Marty said:
Should have banned travel from all infected countries immediately and have checks at the boarders.
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True as soon as it came out in China, the whole area should of been placed into lock down
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #656
Marty said:
Should have banned travel from all infected countries immediately and have checks at the boarders.
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Fucking Etonians spreading the virus.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #657
shmmeee said:
Fucking Etonians spreading the virus.
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He's got a point though ain't he? If they were closed early it wouldn't have spread
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #658
Well I’ve just been sent home sick for scaring another employee cos I’m ill. She didn’t like me coughing and generally being ill in her vicinity. Probably for the best. Feels like it’s starting to get real today.

SkyBlueDom26 said:
He's got a point though ain't he? If they were closed early it wouldn't have spread
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Yeah. Though in their defence they were the first place to see it. Not sure what excuse other countries have for not following suit.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #659
shmmeee said:
Well I’ve just been sent home sick for scaring another employee cos I’m ill. She didn’t like me coughing and generally being ill in her vicinity. Probably for the best. Feels like it’s starting to get real today.



Yeah. Though in their defence they were the first place to see it. Not sure what excuse other countries have for not following suit.
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Hong Kong implemented these measures and Singapore were very similar.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #660
Marty said:
Hong Kong implemented these measures and Singapore were very similar.
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It seems to be us and the US that won’t for whatever reason (medical advice/secret plan to kill all old people).
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #661
shmmeee said:
Well I’ve just been sent home sick for scaring another employee cos I’m ill. She didn’t like me coughing and generally being ill in her vicinity. Probably for the best. Feels like it’s starting to get real today.


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Have you got the symptoms?
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #662
shmmeee said:
It seems to be us and the US that won’t for whatever reason (medical advice/secret plan to kill all old people).
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Possibly down to relying on China too heavily for manufacturing of goods?
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #663
SkyBlueDom26 said:
He's got a point though ain't he? If they were closed early it wouldn't have spread
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It’s a fair point/assumption but from what I’ve read/heard unfortunately due to the symptoms not showing for a period of time (and in some cases being extremely minor) and the substantial movement of people around the globe, it’s always going to be hard/impossible to track and control.

We could’ve banned flights from say China but unless the whole world did the same it would still be transmitted here (via other countries) as there’s always going to be a lag between the spread and the recorded cases ie how long has the virus been active before cases are highlighted in a specific country ? You’re always going to be one step behind.

only option would have been to close borders from pretty much every country in very early stages or test every person coming into the country - both never going to happen.

I agree it probably would’ve slowed things down though.

We have huge benefits of globalisation and global travel etc but this is a obviously a big downside
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #664
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
You are utterly incorrect on this point, RoS. PHE, the Chief Medical Officers, Chief Scientific Advisers and the like have been observing and monitoring the situation on an hourly basis. They have planned for this type of eventuality for a decade, and the algorithms and mathematical modelling of the epidemiology underpins the entire contain, delay, research strategy. WHEN the numbers hit trigger points which indicate the contain phase has reached its conclusion, the advice will change. The public and media trying to predict or cry for that switch are not helping.
Everything on the BBC is still clickbait with rhetorical questions as headlines!
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Bollocks. And I am not basing anything on "the BBC".
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2020
  • #665
Marty said:
Possibly down to relying on China too heavily for manufacturing of goods?
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Hmmm. Sorts the housing and social care crisis, brings manufacturing back to the U.K., shuts the borders, ends globalisation.

Maybe coronavirus was the real Brexit all along.
 
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