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David O'Day

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,271
SBAndy said:
Other half has been up coughing all night. Now I’m 95% confident she just has a cough/cold/other illness but probably better to be safe about it. Gov portal for testing just says “we are very busy, please try again later”. Is that how it’s tended to be when others have tried to book?
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Yep, they say the trick is to go and book at 8pm as that's when the next batch of new slots gets uploaded
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,272
SBAndy said:
Other half has been up coughing all night. Now I’m 95% confident she just has a cough/cold/other illness but probably better to be safe about it. Gov portal for testing just says “we are very busy, please try again later”. Is that how it’s tended to be when others have tried to book?
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if it is a productive cough it is probably not covid. If it is on the chest not the throat and not productive, it may be
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,273
SBAndy said:
Other half has been up coughing all night. Now I’m 95% confident she just has a cough/cold/other illness but probably better to be safe about it. Gov portal for testing just says “we are very busy, please try again later”. Is that how it’s tended to be when others have tried to book?
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it seems so. My missus gave up last week but whatever she had has cleared up so I think it was just a bug but they've got no chance of getting on top of it if people can't find out one way or another.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,274
Well I've downloaded the app anyway. It does contact tracing!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,275
I see Matt Hancock is doing his best this morning to contradict the message from SAGE and indeed the government on self isolating.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,276
SBAndy said:
Other half has been up coughing all night. Now I’m 95% confident she just has a cough/cold/other illness but probably better to be safe about it. Gov portal for testing just says “we are very busy, please try again later”. Is that how it’s tended to be when others have tried to book?
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Home testing only available in cv3
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,277
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well I've downloaded the app anyway. It does contact tracing!
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NHS Covid-19 app: One million downloads of contact tracer for England and Wales

Users are being urged to install the app to protect themselves and others against the resurgent virus.
www.bbc.co.uk

Reduces my risk of getting it and my risk of spreading it so I’ll do my bit
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,278
Just downloaded. CV5 is high risk apparently
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,279
shmmeee said:
Just downloaded. CV5 is high risk apparently
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earlsdon innit
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,280
shmmeee said:
Just downloaded. CV5 is high risk apparently
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I think it's the same for the whole of the Midlands
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,281
Kieranp96 said:
Then we make do, I'm lucky enough to work from home but I feel for people who can't.
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Appreciate what you’re saying but again this is where the governments messaging has been poor....it’s not that it’s suddenly dangerous to go to work (although for some jobs ie high/close public interaction ie supermarkets it is obviously a higher risk of contageon than others) unless you/your close family are higher risk...the advice/measures are solely to try to slow the spread down again

unfortunately as I say the messaging/reasoning hasn’t been the clearest, then the media/social media whip your further panic and we end up with people locking themselves away (and not getting treatments for more serious diseases/illnesses, getting mental health issues etc etc)
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,282
fernandopartridge said:
I think it's the same for the whole of the Midlands
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cv3 is medium
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,283
shmmeee said:
Just downloaded. CV5 is high risk apparently
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CV3 is medium risk. Don't all you CV5'ers start coming over here with your infections.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,284
I won’t get into the whole testing discussion again. We should have a bit more capacity by now and I believe the government should be working on a referral system online or through 111 again (those with obvious Covid symptoms and/or that have been in close contact with someone who has Covid) not everyone just trying to book a test themselves !

It goes without saying that if everyone is trying to get a test for Covid like symptoms (some similar to cold) no capacity will be enough over autumn/winter.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,285
I don't really think pertaining risk profiles to individual postcodes in densely population cities makes all that much sense. I'd suggest it should have two levels, Coventry is a high risk place due to having some high risk areas. CV3 is a medium risk in itself but people must exercise caution. The virus doesn't understand postcode boundaries and people don't tend to live, work and socialise within them either.
 

SBAndy

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,286
SBAndy said:
Other half has been up coughing all night. Now I’m 95% confident she just has a cough/cold/other illness but probably better to be safe about it. Gov portal for testing just says “we are very busy, please try again later”. Is that how it’s tended to be when others have tried to book?
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Well, after 2 and a bit hours of refreshing, appointments appeared. A fair few of them as well. Seems that it’s not just an 8pm release, so credit where it’s due I suppose.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,287
fernandopartridge said:
I don't really think pertaining risk profiles to individual postcodes in densely population cities makes all that much sense. I'd suggest it should have two levels, Coventry is a high risk place due to having some high risk areas. CV3 is a medium risk in itself but people must exercise caution. The virus doesn't understand postcode boundaries and people don't tend to live, work and socialise within them either.
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Nah we're just gonna take a pitchfork to any c**t from Earlsdon who comes our way!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,288
Not surprising i suppose given his background, but naïve at best to not dispose of it, given his role!

Revealed: Sir Patrick Vallance has £600,000 shareholding in firm contracted to develop vaccines

Government denies claims of potential conflict of interest, maintaining he is not involved in commercial decisions on coronavirus vaccines
www.telegraph.co.uk
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,289
shmmeee said:
Just downloaded. CV5 is high risk apparently
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Cv3 medium
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,290
fernandopartridge said:
I don't really think pertaining risk profiles to individual postcodes in densely population cities makes all that much sense. I'd suggest it should have two levels, Coventry is a high risk place due to having some high risk areas. CV3 is a medium risk in itself but people must exercise caution. The virus doesn't understand postcode boundaries and people don't tend to live, work and socialise within them either.
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I’ll pass it on
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,291
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’ll pass it on
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And even then the benefits are still massive in terms of reducing the change of catching it and more importantly passing it on
 

Ian1779

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,292
Amazing.....

 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,293
David O'Day said:
Nah we're just gonna take a pitchfork to any c**t from Earlsdon who comes our way!
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Time to cut us adrift - we're gonna build a wall, and we're gonna get all the reprobates who come drinking in our pubs at the weekend to pay for it!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,294
Ian1779 said:
Amazing.....

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Don’t see the issue TBF. Of course only phones with modern tech can support the latest features.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,295
shmmeee said:
Don’t see the issue TBF. Of course only phones with modern tech can support the latest features.
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Aye, that's why the app isn't the only solution. Traditional T&T + an app. Same with any other health tech.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,296
shmmeee said:
Don’t see the issue TBF. Of course only phones with modern tech can support the latest features.
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You would think that if you need most people to be able to use the app you would make it so it works on the widest range of phones so yes I see a problem.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,297
Sky Blue Pete said:
And even then the benefits are still massive in terms of reducing the change of catching it and more importantly passing it on
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Their response
Yes I agree but I think they went for simplicity and the idea that you might feel you have more influence over your more local postcode - a "tell your neighbours" principle. I think there's a "smoothing" function over the risk scores so that each postcode's risk is affected by those near to it.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,298
Sunaks support for business that CAN trade seems a bit patchy....some good, some inadequate....

BUT unless I've missed it, He offers the square root of fuck-all for businesses & sectors who can't currently trade.... WTF?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,299
So the wage top scheme means the state will pay a maximum of 22% of salary towards it being the onus is on the employer to pick up the slack.

Can see the bloodbath of job loses being that much effected by this.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,300
David O'Day said:
You would think that if you need most people to be able to use the app you would make it so it works on the widest range of phones so yes I see a problem.
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You want the government to nip round everyone’s house and upgrade the hardware in their phone to be capable? Or just not release an app at all?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,301
shmmeee said:
You want the government to nip round everyone’s house and upgrade the hardware in their phone to be capable? Or just not release an app at all?
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It’s something to do with the way Bluetooth works on the iPhone 6 and before
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,302
shmmeee said:
You want the government to nip round everyone’s house and upgrade the hardware in their phone to be capable? Or just not release an app at all?
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I suppose that hinges on whether the app is actually useful at the levels who will take it up, and that level will obviously be less, the less people who are able to take it up.

Now I don't have the answers to that, so I'm not going to comment either way...
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,303
Deleted member 5849 said:
I suppose that hinges on whether the app is actually useful at the levels who will take it up, and that level will obviously be less, the less people who are able to take it up.

Now I don't have the answers to that, so I'm not going to comment either way...
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Even at 15 % it’s effective but not as effective. It’s one of those things if you can convince your networks to use it it will reduce your risk or getting it or passing it on
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,304
Sky Blue Pete said:
Even at 15 % it’s effective but not as effective. It’s one of those things if you can convince your networks to use it it will reduce your risk or getting it or passing it on
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Have to say... my networks (parents and many work colleagues) aren't able to download it, because their phone technology is too out of date!

Looks like I'll be bluetoothing away to myself, and Mrs Wisdom (not sure if her phone can do it until she gets home from work!!)

Obviously if out it may have a use.
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,305
shmmeee said:
You want the government to nip round everyone’s house and upgrade the hardware in their phone to be capable? Or just not release an app at all?
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no but phones from 2015 can use qr codes and have bluetooth so you can simplify the process for them
 
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