Nick
Administrator
When was that?
When was that?You got pissed off because some people were highlighting that the concert was a risk. Which way do you want it?
did he? I saw him say he understood why they wanted to protest but hoped protesters were social distancing and wearing PPE.
He also tweeted a picture of the Tel Aviv anti corruption protest where they maintained social distancing and said this is how it should be done.
When was that?
don’t know how to link on phone, you said “Stereophonics do a gig and loads of do gooder gimps losing their minds over it.”
Which way do you want it?
He's also saying it isn't their fault if there's a spike in cases from it. As is lineker.
I think their point is general lack of leadership and Cummings flouting the rules has lead the lock down not being observed as strictly as it should.
I totally agree. Yes people have to bear some personal responsibility but the the lack of clarity and leadership is massively evident to anyone who's paying attention.
It's bollocks, it's just trying to absolve people of blame for their own actions.
Yeah Cummings was a twat, the eye test bullshit. If he hadn't done that then does that mean thousands wouldn't be gathering now?
It's the desperation to politicise everything. If theres a spike in cases then to say people who are gathering in thousands aren't to blame is laughable.
Still, if people do get it after going to a gathering im sure it will be somebody else's fault. Same as when they were all stood in crowds to applaud the NHS.
it's not bollocks. People look to leadership, it's why we have governments and politicians, ours are letting us down.
And everything is politicised, every single thing in society.
From the food we eat, to the entertainment we enjoy, somewhere along the line, politics has played a part.
People need to take responsibility for their own actions.
World's gone mad. We are 1 week out of eased lockdown where we are now allowed to meet only 6 people outside yet in cities across the UK there are thousands crammed together. And then there are people on here saying not locking down earlier lost lives. So what about the 1000s marching again today? How under the circumstances is this viewed as now acceptable?
You really think none of this would be happening or it would be smaller if Cummings hadn't been a dick?agree, but people also need leadership.
I said it in another post, someone sneaks a beer to their seat and most people think look at that arsehole.
A steward or copper starts drinking a beer in the stand and suddenly half the crowd would be at it.
News reporters have been classed as essential workers and the guidelines for people working is maintain social distancing where possible.Have news reporters given up with it now too? Reporting from protests in the middle of crowds.
So surely we shouldn't have ever bothered with a lockdown?
Still, I'm sure when it spreads rapidly again then the media can just try and pin it on something else.
Why not wait until lockdown is over?
Birmingham, Manchester, London, Nottingham, Glasgow.
Big cities, tens of thousands of people in close proximity. Let's not pretend there isn't a massively increased risk.
If there isn't, why have we been forced to stay in for months?
Seen a few today who are in crowds of people.News reporters have been classed as essential workers and the guidelines for people working is maintain social distancing where possible.
I guess they would argue they need to be on the scene to cover the story effectively.
It's the double standards really. Cunts like piers Morgan outraged somebody went for a pint with their mates before lockdown but then absolving thousands of blame during a lockdown.We get it - you're pissed off you can't go to the pub or the football.
He's also saying it isn't their fault if there's a spike in cases from it. As is lineker.
Completely agree with this. Seeing plenty of people who have not said a word when there was street parties, crowds clapping the NHS or people filling up parks & beaches but we're supposed to believe they're suddenly deeply concerned about crowds when its an anti-racism protest.The hypocrisy of it all is amazing, purely just for politics
Of course they will be to blame as they should be more aware of the situation. However, the situation that has put them there isn't their fault - it's the fault of society at large and especially those in positions of power who have for generations ignored doing anything about the problem and in recent times made it worse.
But surely you can see there is a difference between the legitimacy of protesting for human rights and going to the pub for a beer.
Of course they will be to blame as they should be more aware of the situation. However, the situation that has put them there isn't their fault - it's the fault of society at large and especially those in positions of power who have for generations ignored doing anything about the problem and in recent times made it worse.
But surely you can see there is a difference between the legitimacy of protesting for human rights and going to the pub for a beer.
People need to take responsibility for their own actions.
Completely agree with this. Seeing plenty of people who have not said a word when there was street parties, crowds clapping the NHS or people filling up parks & beaches but we're supposed to believe they're suddenly deeply concerned about crowds when its an anti-racism protest.
You think people waited for Cummings to be a c**t first?But much of what is and isn't acceptable is filtered down for those who are supposed to be leaders and setting the rules and examples. So if those who are in charge disregard the rules so do some of those further down. Sadly, a lot of people are sheep looking to be led.
The London one seemed by far the worst but then the idiot quota at any protest in London always seems higher. Did see that the organisers in London, and elsewhere, were urging people to maintain distancing and had setup sanitising stations. They were also handing out packs with hand sanitizer, water and masks.Hardly, every single one I’ve seen there has been 0 social distancing....was there any in London yesterday?
You think people waited for Cummings to be a c**t first?
The London one seemed by far the worst but then the idiot quota at any protest in London always seems higher. Did see that the organisers in London, and elsewhere, were urging people to maintain distancing and had setup sanitising stations. They were also handing out packs with hand sanitizer, water and masks.
At the end of the day its the same problem we've seen all over the place, and since the message changed from stay home to stay alert a lot of people seem to have decided its OK to do whatever you want.
Nope. But the fact is the social distancing has been flouted way more since that came to light and the incomprehensible easing of restrictions that followed, which I believe was rushed through in part due to that story as it flies in the face of their own tests.
Some used it as an excuse because they're just fed up of lockdown and wanted to get outside. But a lot will be "fuck it - if he can ignore it so will I"
Can't speak for anyone else but even if Boris gets on the TV tonight and tells us its all over and everything is cleared to open up I won't be rushing anywhere, and certainly not anywhere there's a crowd.Begs the question with the police and paramedics gathering on bridges as well then is there much point to us being stuck in?
If you walk about clapping the NHS you are immune.Can't speak for anyone else but even if Boris gets on the TV tonight and tells us its all over and everything is cleared to open up I won't be rushing anywhere, and certainly not anywhere there's a crowd.
I've gone this long will happily spend another 2-4 weeks in the house after things are opened up to see what happens.
You really think none of this would be happening or it would be smaller if Cummings hadn't been a dick?
It's all a bit of a mockery, people are limited from funerals and can't see their families and friends. Others are forced to close their businesses but it all goes out of the window.
If the spread rate is what people have been preaching for months then there's going to be a fair few deaths as a result of the gatherings across the world and an upturn in cases.
It's been happening for months. Funny how when paramedics and live break the rules because it's for NHS it was largely ignored?I know loads of people who started breaking rules after the Cummings incident.
Not ignoring everything but who started going to visit family and allowing family to visit them. Not the same as flocking to the beach but at a time when the country needed strong leadership and resolve we got the government tying themselves in knots trying to protect him.
Then this week we were told we were transitioning from level 4 to 3 but we lifted restrictions that weren't supposed to be lifted until level 1.
Don't think for one minute this doesn't have an affect on public behaviour.
Of course there are arseholes who would ignore the rules no matter what.
It's been happening for months. Funny how when paramedics and live break the rules because it's for NHS it was largely ignored?
As I said, people need to take responsibility for their own actions.
It's all well and good saying love the NHS for months but it won't be showing a lot of love with the increase of cases that will come from the massive gatherings.
Either Corona is massively infectious and going out will kill our grannies or it won't.
It's been happening for months. Funny how when paramedics and live break the rules because it's for NHS it was largely ignored?
As I said, people need to take responsibility for their own actions.
It's all well and good saying love the NHS for months but it won't be showing a lot of love with the increase of cases that will come from the massive gatherings.
Either Corona is massively infectious and going out will kill our grannies or it won't.
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