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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 17, 2020
  • #23,486
US Senator Richard Burr being investigated by the FBI for mass selling stocks off the back of being given classified information that Covid would tank the market in late January. He was one of 3 (out of 100) senators who voted against what he did being a crime.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,487
chiefdave said:
We're all good if there's a sudden outbreak of malaria though.
UK pays £20m for Donald Trump's malaria drug 'Covid cure'
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Ah the malaria cure that lists one of it's aide effects as heart failure

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,488
chiefdave said:
We're all good if there's a sudden outbreak of malaria though.
UK pays £20m for Donald Trump's malaria drug 'Covid cure'
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Wtf
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,489
SkyBlueDom26 said:
We don’t know till after the human trials which are taking place now, result is in June/July
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They’re probably only trialing it to see if it’s safe in humans first, they won’t even be trialing it for effectiveness.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,490
skybluetony176 said:
They’re probably only trialing it to see if it’s safe in humans first, they won’t even be trialing it for effectiveness.
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Yep safety trials are safety testing

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David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,491
Roads are an awful lot busier today

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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,492
I’m afraid I won’t be rushing for a vaccine, that’s been knocked up inside a few months. If it hasn’t been tested on puppies & monkeys in cages for several years then it’s not for me just yet.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,493
BodicoteSkyBlue said:
I’m afraid I won’t be rushing for a vaccine, that’s been knocked up inside a few months. If it hasn’t been tested on puppies & monkeys in cages for several years then it’s not for me just yet.
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It is tested on animals...
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,494
I appreciate that Shmmeee, it’s just the shear speed of development that’s putting me off. And I’m not one of those anti-vacc loons either.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,495
BodicoteSkyBlue said:
I’m afraid I won’t be rushing for a vaccine, that’s been knocked up inside a few months. If it hasn’t been tested on puppies & monkeys in cages for several years then it’s not for me just yet.
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Don’t worry. I caught the backend of an interview with a spokesperson from the BMA this morning on the radio and the gist of it was that the government is blowing smoke up everyones arse. Even if they can get results in the lab (which as yet they can’t) there’s a rigorous testing regime so no way will it be available when government officials were trying to suggest yesterday it would be. It’s headline politics and cruel because it’s selling false hope.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,496
skybluetony176 said:
Don’t worry. I caught the backend of an interview with a spokesperson from the BMA this morning on the radio and the gist of it was that the government is blowing smoke up everyones arse. Even if they can get results in the lab (which as yet they can’t) there’s a rigorous testing regime so no way will it be available when government officials were trying to suggest yesterday it would be. It’s headline politics and cruel because it’s selling false hope.
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Frankly, I'd be more reassured by that, then by the government telling me it can be sorted in an unfeasibly short space of time. I can accept risk, and the need to manage risk, but I want realism and competence in managing that risk thankyou very much.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,497
David O'Day said:
Yep safety trials are safety testing

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There is a section on the NHS website for clinical trials and basically there’s 4 stages to get through, the first being to see if it has an adverse reaction on humans. They start with a tiny dosage of the drug tested and build it up over a period of time while monitoring for adverse reactions, that’s all that will maybe be starting in June/July and that stage alone can take months depending on results. Once again the government are selling snake oil.
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,498
Didn’t see yesterday’s “briefing”. Did they suggest a date for a vaccine? I wouldn’t be surprised with this lot if Matt Hancock has his kids (assuming he has any) vaccinated live on TV, bit like when Gummer fed his kids a burger during the mad cow crisis!
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,499
BodicoteSkyBlue said:
Didn’t see yesterday’s “briefing”. Did they suggest a date for a vaccine? I wouldn’t be surprised with this lot if Matt Hancock has his kids (assuming he has any) vaccinated live on TV, bit like when Gummer fed his kids a burger during the mad cow crisis!
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Don’t think it was at the briefing, think it was a number of ministers in TV interviews throughout the day.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,500
skybluetony176 said:
There is a section on the NHS website for clinical trials and basically there’s 4 stages to get through, the first being to see if it has an adverse reaction on humans. They start with a tiny dosage of the drug tested and build it up over a period of time while monitoring for adverse reactions, that’s all that will maybe be starting in June/July and that stage alone can take months depending on results. Once again the government are selling snake oil.
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Pretty disheartening to see tens of millions chucked on punts at anything that seems vaguely credible
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,501
What’s that? Common sense you say Baby shower partygoers flee after lockdown breach “it doesn’t matter because the schools are going back in June”.
 
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wingy

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,502
There were claims within weeks from certain countries that their scientists had it nailed apart from testing regimen.
The first was China, the second Isreal .
One for the conspiracy theorists?
China had been developing a multi variety Corona vaccine as late as June.

Edit:- there was a Sars 1 type vaccine that got 80% there but failed to get the investment.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,503
skybluetony176 said:
What’s that? Common sense you say Baby shower partygoers flee after lockdown breach “it doesn’t matter because the schools are going back in June”.
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Bet it was G who ran
 
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wingy

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,504
BBC expressing much confidence around the early availability of vaccine this morning.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,505
Well our work has sent a message round saying continue to work from home until told otherwise, and to ignore rumours etc. about returning to work. I know at some stage they'll end up putting a plan in place, but I find it strangely reassuring they're not hurtling towards it and are at least thinking about what to do.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,506
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well our work has sent a message round saying continue to work from home until told otherwise, and to ignore rumours etc. about returning to work. I know at some stage they'll end up putting a plan in place, but I find it strangely reassuring they're not hurtling towards it and are at least thinking about what to do.
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Some councils intent on defying the school returns
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,507
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Pretty disheartening to see tens of millions chucked on punts at anything that seems vaguely credible
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The public money would be better spent on infrastructure to deal with pandemics generally

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shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,508
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well our work has sent a message round saying continue to work from home until told otherwise, and to ignore rumours etc. about returning to work. I know at some stage they'll end up putting a plan in place, but I find it strangely reassuring they're not hurtling towards it and are at least thinking about what to do.
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My work mentioned it for the first time last week. Just said they’ll wait until the majority are back.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,509
fernandopartridge said:
The public money would be better spent on infrastructure to deal with pandemics generally

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Even football clubs would be a better use of the money
 

hill83

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,510
OMG STOP POINT SCORING EVERYONE
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,511
wingy said:
BBC expressing much confidence around the early availability of vaccine this morning.
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It ceased to be a credible national news service a few years ago.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,512
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well our work has sent a message round saying continue to work from home until told otherwise, and to ignore rumours etc. about returning to work. I know at some stage they'll end up putting a plan in place, but I find it strangely reassuring they're not hurtling towards it and are at least thinking about what to do.
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Same with us
 

shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,513
Grim.

 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,514
Yeah, get those teachers back to work.
 
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hill83

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,515
Anyone aged 5 and over is now eligible for a test if they have symptoms. Now I’m sure this is flexible but my lad is 4. Youngest in his year and won’t be 5 until the middle of August.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,516
shmmeee said:
Grim.

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Same in the USA I think
 

shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,517
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Same in the USA I think
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What’s the explanation? Clearly it’s not just care homes we’re doing badly on compared to other countries.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,518
Let's bring quarantine rules for incoming people months too late and yes let's make load of countries exempt anyway.

But stay positive

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wingy

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,519
shmmeee said:
What’s the explanation? Clearly it’s not just care homes we’re doing badly on compared to other countries.
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Over confidence on riding it out at home given the original advice?.
Ethnicity ?
I think that's similar across EU?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 18, 2020
  • #23,520
Good to see infections reduce and deaths lower. I know it’s Monday for the deaths. I think those graphs make very grim reading
 
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