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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,996
Grendel said:
Charity bet time? What time period?
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I reckon sometime within the next year, with the current situation it’s too difficult to say.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,997
Sick Boy said:
There’s no way De Pfeffel is going to last, he’s even being openly criticised by his own MPs.
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One of the media barons has had enough... time to move him on and sweep it all under the carpet.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,998
Ian1779 said:
One of the media barons has had enough... time to move him on and sweep it all under the carpet.
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Which one?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,999
skybluetony176 said:
Which one?
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Who knows.... could be any of them. They’ll probably want to put someone they can control even more in place.... like Gove.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,000
skybluetony176 said:
Which one?
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I think he meant once, but I have heard rumours Gove is preferred by Murdoch.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,001
shmmeee said:
I think he meant once, but I have heard rumours Gove is preferred by Murdoch.
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Christ.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,002
Ian1779 said:
Who knows.... could be any of them. They’ll probably want to put someone they can control even more in place.... like Gove.
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shmmeee said:
I think he meant once, but I have heard rumours Gove is preferred by Murdoch.
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Got you’s. I wonder how much the big moguls have on him? Affairs, illegitimate children, other behaviour not becoming of a world leader such as lying. No, wait...
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,003
Torygraph have begun to turn on Boris recently.

Despite what Grendel says about him being bestest pwime minister ever!, the tide is turning on Johnson.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,004
Deleted member 5849 said:
Christ.
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Come back Jeremy Hunt. All is forgiven.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,005
Deleted member 5849 said:
Christ.
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Remember when we thought Cameron was bad?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,006
shmmeee said:
Remember when we thought Cameron was bad?
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I have quite fond memories of May these days.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,007
skybluetony176 said:
I have quite fond memories of May these days.
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The 'not so obvious' hot babes thread! ?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,008
shmmeee said:
The 'not so obvious' hot babes thread! ?
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My eyes still work so no.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,009
#prayfordom

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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,010
Sick Boy said:
I reckon sometime within the next year, with the current situation it’s too difficult to say.
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Depends how bad things get, they might decide to play the long game. Once this is over we'll likely have a huge recession to deal with while trying to sort out Brexit.

We've got 4 years until the next election. If they think they can get that all out the way with something like 12 months to spare they could be tempted to leave him in to take the fall for everything.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,011
Which tory apart from gove would want the job at this point in time.

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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,012
Got to love the government and their eye for detail....

 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,013
As much as I don't rate Johnson, I don't like the idea of a single fall guy. The entire government are on the hook for it, it wasn't the work of a single rogue.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,014
Rusty Trombone said:
My Mrs works as a nurse at UHCW, from things she tells me you shouldn't underestimate the poor decisions that get made by senior management. Of course you could argue that ultimately this all leads back to the Government, but these managers do need to take some responsibility. Again from what she tells me there was a real reluctance to test people, now whether this was down to a lack of testing availability or wanting to keep the numbers down, and people out of the Covid wards, I don't know. Maybe a mixture of everything.
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Senior management in the hospitals work on direction of the commissioning guidance they'll be getting from the centre, i.e. NHS England who in turn will be working to the Minister.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,015
Care homes coronavirus fiasco as just 5% tested two weeks after Hancock promise

Sad but not surprising

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Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,016
fernandopartridge said:
As much as I don't rate Johnson, I don't like the idea of a single fall guy. The entire government are on the hook for it, it wasn't the work of a single rogue.
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He is the leader that put the team together though.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,017
Terry Gibson's perm said:
He is the leader that put the team together though.
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Taxi for Johnson

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Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,018
David O'Day said:
Taxi for Johnson

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At least he can claim it in his expenses
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,019
fernandopartridge said:
As much as I don't rate Johnson, I don't like the idea of a single fall guy. The entire government are on the hook for it, it wasn't the work of a single rogue.
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No chance of it working like that. At most you'll get 2 or 3 people in the government. Any other blame will be pushed down the chain. Hancock will likely be the first to go, and then Johnson and then the government will make out the rest of them had nothing to do with it.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,020
Not good news.

https://mobile.twitter.com/zeynep/status/1260639316331638785

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f we’ve had 50k excess deaths and are at 5% also, that’s potentially 1m excess deaths if everyone just gets it. In reality it’d be more like maybe 5-600k as we hit herd immunity, but still.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,021
Can we go out yet
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,022
shmmeee said:
Not good news.


I
f we’ve had 50k excess deaths and are at 5% also, that’s potentially 1m excess deaths if everyone just gets it. In reality it’d be more like maybe 5-600k as we hit herd immunity, but still.
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Yea - does that take into account that the 5% who got it possibly contained some of the people at highest risk in any case? The other thing is that both France and Spain had more stringent lockdowns than the UK, our spread is possibly greater than theirs.

It is rather unsettling though I must say.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #23,023
The stark reality is that the Tories were prepared to allow 600k people to die and it was the basis of their strategy. You can't help but think we'll get to somewhere around 25% of that.
 
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Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2020
  • #23,024
fernandopartridge said:
The stark reality is that the Tories were prepared to allow 600k people to die and it was the basis of their strategy. You can't help but think we'll get to somewhere around 25% of that.
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It should have been a Lockdown of the same proportion as France etc but Boris and the
Government would argue their soft approach to Lockdown was all about trying to protect
the economy from collapse.
As far as I can make out it’s cost thousands more lives than was ever necessary, and as
far as the economy Is concerned ‘it now looks likely we’ll be in and out of lockdown more
often than a Morris dancer doing the Hokey Pokey.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2020
  • #23,025
fernandopartridge said:
Yea - does that take into account that the 5% who got it possibly contained some of the people at highest risk in any case? The other thing is that both France and Spain had more stringent lockdowns than the UK, our spread is possibly greater than theirs.

It is rather unsettling though I must say.
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That’s fair. Haven’t over half our deaths been in care homes? So probably does skew older. Also we may have had more infected.

Point about us not being as far through as some hoped stands mind.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2020
  • #23,026
Nick said:
Can we go out yet
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Come on Nick it’s common sense. Like sending infected pensioners back to care homes was common sense
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2020
  • #23,027
Well done Boris lad

Has lack of testing made care homes more vulnerable to Covid-19?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2020
  • #23,028
Grendel and Dom can't still think the government is doing a good job, can they?

It gets worse by the day, as more and more details come out.

We all knew it was bad, but I don't think any of us thought it was this bad.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2020
  • #23,029
Brylowes said:
It should have been a Lockdown of the same proportion as France etc but Boris and the
Government would argue their soft approach to Lockdown was all about trying to protect
the economy from collapse.
As far as I can make out it’s cost thousands more lives than was ever necessary, and as
far as the economy Is concerned ‘it now looks likely we’ll be in and out of lockdown more
often than a Morris dancer doing the Hokey Pokey.
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Well that worked. I don’t think anyone knew what was happening really.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 14, 2020
  • #23,030
PVA said:
Grendel and Dom can't still think the government is doing a good job, can they?

It gets worse by the day, as more and more details come out.

We all knew it was bad, but I don't think any of us thought it was this bad.
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I think their absence says it all. The deliberate poisoning of care homes seems too much for even them to try and defend or deflect from.
 
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