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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,406
The coventrian said:
Hopefully theres some way that all the countries that have been affected by this can sue the arse off China. People losing their lives,jobs,homes through no fault of there own etc is disgraceful. China need to pay for what they unleashed on the world.
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'Contagious illness spreads' is not a lawsuit.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,407
Deleted member 5849 said:
'Contagious illness spreads' is not a lawsuit.
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To be fair a form of backlash not just from the us is gathering pace
 

David O'Day

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,408
Excess deaths for week ending 24th April still 11k over average

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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,409
Grendel said:
To be fair a form of backlash not just from the us is gathering pace
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Easy to find a bogeyman, stops people having to look inwardly.

But hey, we know that kind of thing works, alas.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,410
Presumably all other countries would be liable for things like Swine Flu, BSE, etc.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,411
Deleted member 5849 said:
Easy to find a bogeyman, stops people having to look inwardly.

But hey, we know that kind of thing works, alas.
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Even Germany are evaluating investment and future relations
 
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The coventrian

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,412
Deleted member 5849 said:
Easy to find a bogeyman, stops people having to look inwardly.

But hey, we know that kind of thing works, alas.
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Er hello,where did this virus originate from? I guess it wasnt done on purpose though was it.......or like china kept it a secret......
 

clint van damme

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,413
Grendel said:
I was talking Uk
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oh right, yeah, just really brought it home seeing it it in black and white.
 

Astute

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,414
The coventrian said:
Surely if nobody bought a new car then there would be no 2nd hand ones?
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Which is why I said in 3 years time a 3 year old car will be worth much more than now. All 2nd hand values will go up. So then it will be worth looking at new again. And hopefully the world economy will be back on track by then.
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,415
Grendel said:
To be fair a form of backlash not just from the us is gathering pace
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It's happening already. One of my customers, a leading national discount store chain, is actively encouraging approaches from UK manufacturers and suggesting products prominently state ‘Made in UK’ on the packaging. This is a company whose stores have become increasingly dependent over many years on goods from China. They now want to significantly reduce that reliance to simplify logistics and in anticipation of customer backlash.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,416
The coventrian said:
Er hello,where did this virus originate from? I guess it wasnt done on purpose though was it.......or like china kept it a secret......
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Er hello, it's a virus.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 5, 2020
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Grendel said:
Even Germany are evaluating investment and future relations
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Interesting you hold Germany up as the gold standard we shjould aspire to...
 
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The coventrian

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,418
Astute said:
Which is why I said in 3 years time a 3 year old car will be worth much more than now. All 2nd hand values will go up. So then it will be worth looking at new again. And hopefully the world economy will be back on track by then.
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I hear what your saying but that would put thousands on the dole. At our place they build about 8 months in advance so all the cars built are sold. Unless theyve all been cancelled then I imagine when we go back the powers that be will want them caught back and out the door asap to get some cash in the bank.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 5, 2020
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Sick Boy said:
Presumably all other countries would be liable for things like Swine Flu, BSE, etc.
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Quite. Perhaps we should retrospectively pay all those indiginous populations who we wiped out by spreading our western diseases.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,420
The coventrian said:
Er hello,where did this virus originate from? I guess it wasnt done on purpose though was it.......or like china kept it a secret......
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If we're looking for countries to foot the bill for damage caused, I look forward to Boris rolling out a reparations schedule starting with India and Kenya, just as phase one of making things right for the amount of people this country has murdered down the years.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • May 5, 2020
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Makes me laugh that people go on about boycotting China on social media...from their iPhone haha
 
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The coventrian

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,422
Deleted member 5849 said:
Er hello, it's a virus.
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Point missed completely as usual.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,423
Interesting that France now states their first case was back in 2019.....adding more weight to the argument that it was here, spreading & mis-diagnosed throughout January....

France's first coronavirus case 'was in December'
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,424
SIR ERNIE said:
One of my customers, a leading national discount store chain, is actively encouraging approaches from UK manufacturers and suggesting products prominently state ‘Made in UK’ on the packaging. This is a company whose stores have become increasingly dependent over many years on goods from China. They now want to significantly reduce that reliance to simplify logistics and in anticipation of customer backlash.
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Bullshit from start to finish.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,425
The coventrian said:
Hopefully theres some way that all the countries that have been affected by this can sue the arse off China. People losing their lives,jobs,homes through no fault of there own etc is disgraceful. China need to pay for what they unleashed on the world.
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Has anyone ever paid compensation for a pandemic that originated in their country?
The Yanks are pushing for it but they've been responsible for two pandemics themselves and I'm fairly sure they never paid out compensation.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,426
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Interesting that France now states their first case was back in 2019.....adding more weight to the argument that it was here, spreading & mis-diagnosed throughout January....

France's first coronavirus case 'was in December'
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Yep I’m pretty sure I had something bad in jan. And sister and mum. We’ll soon find out
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 5, 2020
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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Interesting that France now states their first case was back in 2019.....adding more weight to the argument that it was here, spreading & mis-diagnosed throughout January....

France's first coronavirus case 'was in December'
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I'd want a bigger sample than one tbh, to discount erroneous results.

It still makes little logical sense that we didn't find our hospitals overwhelmed by patients in January if that were the case.
 
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Astute

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,428
The coventrian said:
I hear what your saying but that would put thousands on the dole. At our place they build about 8 months in advance so all the cars built are sold. Unless theyve all been cancelled then I imagine when we go back the powers that be will want them caught back and out the door asap to get some cash in the bank.
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People won't extend themselves to keep others in work. A lot of people who would normally have had a new car now won't be able to have one. Business owners who would normally have had a luxury car will jeep what they have or downgrade when having another new car. That is the reality of the situation we are in.
 
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The coventrian

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,429
clint van damme said:
Has anyone ever paid compensation for a pandemic that originated in their country?
The Yanks are pushing for it but they've been responsible for two pandemics themselves and I'm fairly sure they never paid out compensation.
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Havent a clue. This is a bit different though surely? The world has come to a standstill through the Chinese not being honest. I just thought in an ideal world people who've lost loved ones who they're dependent on,jobs,homes could have some kind of compensation to help them out.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 5, 2020
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Astute said:
Business owners who would normally have had a luxury car will jeep what they have
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Steady on now, turning all cars into 4x4s is a step too far.
 
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Astute

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  • May 5, 2020
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Deleted member 5849 said:
I'd want a bigger sample than one tbh, to discount erroneous results.

It still makes little logical sense that we didn't find our hospitals overwhelmed by patients in January if that were the case.
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They have tested the sample from that same person several times and keep getting the same result.

The virus would have started slowly. It wouldn't have been thousands of people getting it from the first day.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,432
clint van damme said:
Has anyone ever paid compensation for a pandemic that originated in their country?
The Yanks are pushing for it but they've been responsible for two pandemics themselves and I'm fairly sure they never paid out compensation.
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Its just John Bull garbage- nobody will do anything, there will be no major 'backlash', and nobody can compete with China for value, nothing is going to change.

One quarter of the workforce furloughed, the biggest recession ever on the way, money is going to be incredibly tight- and people seriously think anyone is going to pay more than they need to purely in order to make some kind of political statement against China which will be ignored and ineffective anyway- its comical.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 5, 2020
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Astute said:
They have tested the sample from that same person several times and keep getting the same result.

The virus would have started slowly. It wouldn't have been thousands of people getting it from the first day.
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I'd want a bigger sample size than one, to discount erroneous results.

End of January is a month, not the first day.
 
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The coventrian

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,434
Astute said:
People won't extend themselves to keep others in work. A lot of people who would normally have had a new car now won't be able to have one. Business owners who would normally have had a luxury car will jeep what they have or downgrade when having another new car. That is the reality of the situation we are in.
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I know the reality. I've been at home since March the 23rd. Undoubtedly there will be job losses. I just think it's a disgrace that people will be losing their livelihoods through no fault of their own.
 

Astute

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,435
Ring Of Steel said:
and nobody can compete with China for value, nothing is going to change.
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Shows you don't know a lot. China does a lot more though as it is a much bigger country with a massive population.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 5, 2020
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clint van damme said:
Has anyone ever paid compensation for a pandemic that originated in their country?
The Yanks are pushing for it but they've been responsible for two pandemics themselves and I'm fairly sure they never paid out compensation.
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As the yanks are potentially responsible for the 1918 spanish flu pandemic I'd love to see the compensation bill for that one.



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Astute

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  • May 5, 2020
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The coventrian said:
I know the reality. I've been at home since March the 23rd. Undoubtedly there will be job losses. I just think it's a disgrace that people will be losing their livelihoods through no fault of their own.
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Happens all the time. But most don't realise until it affects them personally. It is rarely the work force these days that sends companies under.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,438
Astute said:
Shows you don't know a lot. China does a lot more though as it is a much bigger country with a massive population.
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Thank you for explaining that to me, I was not aware of that
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,439
Ring Of Steel said:
Bullshit from start to finish.
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hahaha

You really are clueless.
 

Astute

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  • May 5, 2020
  • #20,440
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'd want a bigger sample size than one, to discount erroneous results.

End of January is a month, not the first day.
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That person was tested in 2019.

The virus was being hidden from the world in 2019. Remember the doctor who got arrested for speaking out in China? He ended up dying from the virus. So nobody outside China got it? We have thousands of visitors from China.
 
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