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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,006
shmmeee said:
The idea that we can’t be told what the exit strategy is because we might break it is pure nonsense.

Business needs to be able to plan. This is Brexit all over again with the government coming out with some half arsed excuse as to why they haven’t done any forward planning and their supporters lapping it up. Before it was “we don’t want to give the plan away” now it’s “you plebs can’t be trusted”.

At the moment you’ve got business owners I know playing guessing games on the future of their livelihood based of rumours in newspapers. Should my barber plan to be out of work for another six months? Is his one of the first or last businesses to reopen? Same for social club owners, restauranteers, teachers, etc.

You don’t need dates but some idea of order and trigger points allows people to plan.
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Of course its nonsense. Nobody is asking for exact dates or even complete detail on the plan. Just a vague idea of what the plan is. At the moment it seems there is no plan.

I'm now having a battle with my parents to stop them 'just popping out' because the only thing they're hearing is that restrictions could last for 18 months. You can't keep people in their houses for 18 months so they're decided if that's the plan they might as well just do what they want now.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,007
Deleted member 5849 said:
Utter waste of a test if it takes that long!
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Of course it would be as you’d either have recovered from the symptoms or be in hospital by then
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,008
David O'Day said:
The chessington test site has been taking 3 to 4 weeks to.come back
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Guardian said:
Hospitals sought to take over the operation of a flagship government coronavirus testing centre from the accounting firm Deloitte after severe failings in the service led to the test results of NHS staff being lost or sent to the wrong person, the Guardian can reveal.

The drive-through centre, at Chessington World of Adventures, in Surrey, was among the first in what will be a network of about 50 regional facilities, trumpeted by the health secretary, Matt Hancock, as key to delivering on the government promise of 100,000 tests a day by the end of April.
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dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,009
Deleted member 5849 said:
Utter waste of a test if it takes that long!
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Likwise HIV tests.

They can only tell if someone was negative at the time the test was taken, not if they've become infected or infected someone else since then.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,010
Accountancy firm running a medical testing site

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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,011
David O'Day said:
Accountancy firm running a medical testing site

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exactly what I thought....WTF ?!
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,012
dutchman said:
Likwise HIV tests.

They can only tell if someone was negative at the time the test was taken, not if they've become infected or infected someone else since then.
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,013
Another one for the 'nobody could have predicted this' file:
Ministers were warned last year the UK must have a robust plan to deal with a pandemic virus and its potentially catastrophic social and economic consequences in a confidential Cabinet Office briefing leaked to the Guardian.

The detailed document warned that even a mild pandemic could cost tens of thousands of lives, and set out the must-have “capability requirements” to mitigate the risks to the country, as well as the potential damage of not doing so.
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Revealed: UK ministers were warned last year of risks of coronavirus pandemic
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,014
chiefdave said:
Another one for the 'nobody could have predicted this' file:

Revealed: UK ministers were warned last year of risks of coronavirus pandemic
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But would you rather live in Italy?
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,015
chiefdave said:
Another one for the 'nobody could have predicted this' file:

Revealed: UK ministers were warned last year of risks of coronavirus pandemic
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But weren’t the BBC talking about the potential for this kind of thing last year as well?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,016

Why am I not surprised?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,017
Nick said:
Those ones who think they are orchestrating it to make themselves look like they love the NHS more than everybody else.
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There were fireworks goiing off in one of my neighbouring streets last night.
Waste money attention seeking for the NHS
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,018
clint van damme said:
There were fireworks goiing off in one of my neighbouring streets last night.
Waste money attention seeking for the NHS
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I just think lads the NHS isn't going to shag you

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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,019
chiefdave said:
Another one for the 'nobody could have predicted this' file:

Revealed: UK ministers were warned last year of risks of coronavirus pandemic
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Anyone who says nobody could’ve predicted it isn’t worth listening to. It’s been the number one risk to the country for over a decade.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,020
dutchman said:
Likwise HIV tests.

They can only tell if someone was negative at the time the test was taken, not if they've become infected or infected someone else since then.
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How would any test predict the future?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,021
shmmeee said:
Anyone who says nobody could’ve predicted it isn’t worth listening to. It’s been the number one risk to the country for over a decade.
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Even Hollywood predicted it.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,022
chiefdave said:
Of course its nonsense. Nobody is asking for exact dates or even complete detail on the plan. Just a vague idea of what the plan is. At the moment it seems there is no plan.

I'm now having a battle with my parents to stop them 'just popping out' because the only thing they're hearing is that restrictions could last for 18 months. You can't keep people in their houses for 18 months so they're decided if that's the plan they might as well just do what they want now.
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Exactly. Currently people are going off Facebook posts and scaremongering headlines, how can anyone suggest any info from the government would be worse.

Roads today were pretty much where I’d expect them to be lunchtime on a Friday, people have had enough of being kept in the dark and fed shit and are giving up. I know people planning BBQs for mid May because fuck it everyone else is out. All over Twitter people are saying it feels like we’re not really in lockdown any more.

Complete lack of leadership from the government.
 
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dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,023
Yep, everything back to normal around here. Everyone out and enjoying the sun, no more danger.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,024
Oh look, turns out “the scientists” we’ve been listening to includes Dominic Cummings. But yeah, it’s everyone else who is politicising the crisis.

Revealed: Cummings is on secret scientific advisory group for Covid-19 | Coronavirus outbreak | The Guardian
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,025
shmmeee said:
Oh look, turns out “the scientists” we’ve been listening to includes Dominic Cummings. But yeah, it’s everyone else who is politicising the crisis.

Revealed: Cummings is on secret scientific advisory group for Covid-19 | Coronavirus outbreak | The Guardian
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'list leaked to the Guardian'.That was handy. I think Johnson may have a problem.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2020
  • #19,026
shmmeee said:
Oh look, turns out “the scientists” we’ve been listening to includes Dominic Cummings. But yeah, it’s everyone else who is politicising the crisis.

Revealed: Cummings is on secret scientific advisory group for Covid-19 | Coronavirus outbreak | The Guardian
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Oh come on. Every scientific advisory group needs someone with a modern history degree. Why do you hate England do much.
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,027
Sick Boy said:
From the 4th May things will start to reopen gradulally, so any hint that things are going badly and the restrictions will return. We are able to travel unrestricted within our own regions' from the 4th, which means that a weekend at the in-laws has already been planned....
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Enjoy. They will have plenty of lockdown stories for you to enjoy
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,028
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
We are still fully open, even for the non essential work streams. Lots of other non essential business/production are remaining open.
Where do you work?
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I make bog rolls for a living. We also make Kleenex here.

My job is very important because if we didn't work nobody would be able to stockpile five years worth of bog rolls.....
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,029
Many companies seem to be starting up production in May
 
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The coventrian

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,030
Grendel said:
Many companies seem to be starting up production in May
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That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,031
The coventrian said:
That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.
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Still making up people to be angry about?

It’s a hobby I guess.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,032
The coventrian said:
That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.
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Even fast food outlets all likely to be back by May
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,033
The coventrian said:
That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.
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Thank God for Brexit eh?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,034
Yet to stop working myself aside from 2 weeks self isolating due to one of the kids showing symptoms. I think this has been pretty common for smaller manufacturing companies where social distancing measures are feasible. Certainly in my experience.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,035
Grendel said:
Even fast food outlets all likely to be back by May
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That would actually make sense - McDonalds could go straight away in drive-thru mode for example.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,036
The coventrian said:
That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.
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I think arms manufacturers have been working so don’t worry there’s still plenty of bullets to drown migrants.
 
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The coventrian

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,037
I didn't take long for the crybaby left to start ranting.
 
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The coventrian

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,038
Ian1779 said:
Thank God for Brexit eh?
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I wouldn't know as I didn't vote for Brexit but keep peddling your lies.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,039
The coventrian said:
I didn't take long for the crybaby to start ranting.
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You’re right.... what time did you log in again?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2020
  • #19,040
The coventrian said:
I didn't take long for the crybaby left to start ranting.
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Ironically it was you who started the ranting about imaginary ranting.
 
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