We could be talking 3000 deaths a day at the peak in reality. Scary stuff, I think we’d do well to be below 20k now.
Question is will we peak like Italy with looser lockdown? If so then it’s fair to say we’ve played a blinder, if not then questions to be answered.
Total horseshit. The worst offenders are you spoit brat left wing lot. If things go against you your out on the streets trying to protest that whatever never went your way. Look at Brexit. Full of leftie idiots on the streets saying anyone who voted for it was a racist/nazi. Look at the Tories getting back in,same again,leftie knobheads screaming and shouting that it's not fair blah blah. Look at your yank leftie mates when trump got in. Fuck me what a load of spoiled babies you are. Some middle class leftie was in London protesting saying she hoped boris Johnson would die a nasty death. Ironically she wanted to be a doctor. Oh the irony. Its called democracy. Things dont always go your way so grow the fuck up and accept it. Ironically you preach democracy but then we have a democratic vote and it goes against you cry like the spoilt brats that you are. Who is it that's always out on the streets protesting and spewing their undemocratic views? Oh yes leftie wankers. You dont see normal working class middle of the road people kicking off. You don't really see right wingers kicking off either. Its you fucking lot. The country sits back pissing its pants laughing at you fools. Grow the fuck up accept things dont always go your way,dye your hair a normal colour,have a wash and get a fucking job.
14k tests is still a way away from the 25k we were promised 3 weeks ago
It's clearly inaccurate if it is using the wrong data.I really hope to god that 3k of deaths a day isn’t where we will be at peak. Thats the number that recent US model predicted but Ferguson said they were using the incorrect Uk data on beds etc. That’s not to say it’s not possible but hopefully the model was inaccurate
I really hope to god that 3k of deaths a day isn’t where we will be at peak. Thats the number that recent US model predicted but Ferguson said they were using the incorrect Uk data on beds etc. That’s not to say it’s not possible but hopefully the model was inaccurate
It's clearly inaccurate if it is using the wrong data.
The academic from Washington who was one of the team behind it was very sheepish and said their model is changing all the time.
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Guess you must have missed this Subscribe to read | Financial TimesTotal horseshit. The worst offenders are you spoit brat left wing lot. If things go against you your out on the streets trying to protest that whatever never went your way. Look at Brexit. Full of leftie idiots on the streets saying anyone who voted for it was a racist/nazi. Look at the Tories getting back in,same again,leftie knobheads screaming and shouting that it's not fair blah blah. Look at your yank leftie mates when trump got in. Fuck me what a load of spoiled babies you are. Some middle class leftie was in London protesting saying she hoped boris Johnson would die a nasty death. Ironically she wanted to be a doctor. Oh the irony. Its called democracy. Things dont always go your way so grow the fuck up and accept it. Ironically you preach democracy but then we have a democratic vote and it goes against you cry like the spoilt brats that you are. Who is that's always out on the streets protesting and spewing their undemocratic views? Oh yes leftie wankers. You dont see normal working class middle of the road people kicking off. You don't really see right wingers kicking off either. Its you fucking lot. The country sits back pissing its pants laughing at you fools. Grow the fuck up accept things dont always go your way,dye your hair a normal colour,have a wash and get a fucking job.
So many words yet so little comprehension of the English language.Total horseshit. The worst offenders are you spoit brat left wing lot. If things go against you your out on the streets trying to protest that whatever never went your way. Look at Brexit. Full of leftie idiots on the streets saying anyone who voted for it was a racist/nazi. Look at the Tories getting back in,same again,leftie knobheads screaming and shouting that it's not fair blah blah. Look at your yank leftie mates when trump got in. Fuck me what a load of spoiled babies you are. Some middle class leftie was in London protesting saying she hoped boris Johnson would die a nasty death. Ironically she wanted to be a doctor. Oh the irony. Its called democracy. Things dont always go your way so grow the fuck up and accept it. Ironically you preach democracy but then we have a democratic vote and it goes against you cry like the spoilt brats that you are. Who is it that's always out on the streets protesting and spewing their undemocratic views? Oh yes leftie wankers. You dont see normal working class middle of the road people kicking off. You don't really see right wingers kicking off either. Its you fucking lot. The country sits back pissing its pants laughing at you fools. Grow the fuck up accept things dont always go your way,dye your hair a normal colour,have a wash and get a fucking job.
I'd be dubious of any model that predicts outcomes much higher or lower than the average.The model is already providing to be inaccurate but I never like to speak too soon when it comes to predicting the future
Total horseshit. The worst offenders are you spoit brat left wing lot. If things go against you your out on the streets trying to protest that whatever never went your way. Look at Brexit. Full of leftie idiots on the streets saying anyone who voted for it was a racist/nazi. Look at the Tories getting back in,same again,leftie knobheads screaming and shouting that it's not fair blah blah. Look at your yank leftie mates when trump got in. Fuck me what a load of spoiled babies you are. Some middle class leftie was in London protesting saying she hoped boris Johnson would die a nasty death. Ironically she wanted to be a doctor. Oh the irony. Its called democracy. Things dont always go your way so grow the fuck up and accept it. Ironically you preach democracy but then we have a democratic vote and it goes against you cry like the spoilt brats that you are. Who is it that's always out on the streets protesting and spewing their undemocratic views? Oh yes leftie wankers. You dont see normal working class middle of the road people kicking off. You don't really see right wingers kicking off either. Its you fucking lot. The country sits back pissing its pants laughing at you fools. Grow the fuck up accept things dont always go your way,dye your hair a normal colour,have a wash and get a fucking job.
Total horseshit. The worst offenders are you spoit brat left wing lot. If things go against you your out on the streets trying to protest that whatever never went your way. Look at Brexit. Full of leftie idiots on the streets saying anyone who voted for it was a racist/nazi. Look at the Tories getting back in,same again,leftie knobheads screaming and shouting that it's not fair blah blah. Look at your yank leftie mates when trump got in. Fuck me what a load of spoiled babies you are. Some middle class leftie was in London protesting saying she hoped boris Johnson would die a nasty death. Ironically she wanted to be a doctor. Oh the irony. Its called democracy. Things dont always go your way so grow the fuck up and accept it. Ironically you preach democracy but then we have a democratic vote and it goes against you cry like the spoilt brats that you are. Who is it that's always out on the streets protesting and spewing their undemocratic views? Oh yes leftie wankers. You dont see normal working class middle of the road people kicking off. You don't really see right wingers kicking off either. Its you fucking lot. The country sits back pissing its pants laughing at you fools. Grow the fuck up accept things dont always go your way,dye your hair a normal colour,have a wash and get a fucking job.
This is it now, this is our futureI assume this thread was messed with, any chance the arguing can go back where it was or ideally in a bin somewhere?
Basing it off the difference between reported deaths and the daily updates which suggest it could be double what’s reported in reality. So assuming 1.5-2k reported which is roughly doubling every week so around 900 today, peak in a week = around 1800, actual numbers all told ~3k. Perfectly possible obviously just conjecture.
I think after this is over we’ll see some analysis that’ll shed some scary light.
Your sensible thread is still thereI assume this thread was messed with, any chance the arguing can go back where it was or ideally in a bin somewhere?
I’m sure they are all to aware that a second outbreak could well occur ‘and the ultra strict measures76 days and Wuhan has finally lifted its lockdown, they aren't being cautious and are going mad with parties etc..... Are they not at all cautious of a second wave or do they have/know something we don't??
I'd be dubious of any model that predicts outcomes much higher or lower than the average.
Still think we are looking at around 20k
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Total horseshit. The worst offenders are you spoit brat left wing lot. If things go against you your out on the streets trying to protest that whatever never went your way. Look at Brexit. Full of leftie idiots on the streets saying anyone who voted for it was a racist/nazi. Look at the Tories getting back in,same again,leftie knobheads screaming and shouting that it's not fair blah blah. Look at your yank leftie mates when trump got in. Fuck me what a load of spoiled babies you are. Some middle class leftie was in London protesting saying she hoped boris Johnson would die a nasty death. Ironically she wanted to be a doctor. Oh the irony. Its called democracy. Things dont always go your way so grow the fuck up and accept it. Ironically you preach democracy but then we have a democratic vote and it goes against you cry like the spoilt brats that you are. Who is it that's always out on the streets protesting and spewing their undemocratic views? Oh yes leftie wankers. You dont see normal working class middle of the road people kicking off. You don't really see right wingers kicking off either. Its you fucking lot. The country sits back pissing its pants laughing at you fools. Grow the fuck up accept things dont always go your way,dye your hair a normal colour,have a wash and get a fucking job.
This raises the question of why Dyson and Babcock are using their own, new and untested, designs rather than those already in existence. Can't be an issue with patents or anything like that as it says the Ventilator Challenge UK consortium is using existing, already approved, designs from Penlon and Smiths Group.
Ah I see, the end of April deadline wasn't included in the article I read, although the official government site indicates it being the target within 4 week, which will be next Wednesday. Hopefully we can get to the 25k by then, I agree that 100k is looking incredibly fanciful with our current testing numbers.that was promised for end of April which Hancock then upgraded to (a probably unrealistic) 100k
Nope, you also can not say that all out of hospital deaths are actually covid-19 related.No way. We’re at 7k now and a week from peak, you’d assume as many after peak as before surely. Then you’ve got to add in all those outside hospital and those extra deaths not directly from CV. We’d do very well to keep it below 20k all told on current projections. There’s every chance we’re close to that already.
Have a look at the data from ten days ago: Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics
You can’t discount every death not directly attributed to CV, you’ve got to look at total increase in deaths compared to a normal year.
Yeah, god knows between reported and final actuals. Will be the same for all countries I’m guessing. That model is either inaccurate or not comparing like for like (so to speak) though. From memory it was suggesting 66k of Uk deaths and 20k for Italy, 15k for France and 19k for Spain by August
Ah good. It sent me here first but I can see it now, false alarmYour sensible thread is still there
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Nope, you also can not say that all out of hospital deaths are actually covid-19 related.
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With different countries stats being measured differently its hard to be certain but when its all over I'm sure the data will be poured over and the numbers crunched so it is comparable. If that shows we've done significantly worse than other countries there will be questions to answer. As you suggest we should really be in a stronger position than other countries given a two week head start and the fact we're an island.We've absolutely fucked it. This is awful. Two week headstart and we're in this position. Dom and Grendel can defend the government's early response all they like, but the government has blood on their hands.
Always amazes me how many right wing snowflakes default to you didn’t vote for brexit therefore you’re a lefty.I think this has been explained to you before but a lot of socialists voted for Brexit and a lot of Tories against.
It wasn't a left/right thing.
I don’t know about the model, just going off the data we’ve got.
We won’t be able to compare countries properly until the dust settles, also don’t really know if the quoted 20k target was all deaths or CV directly which is a big difference.
Agreed. Just to clarify I wasn’t intending to compare countries by the way, I was just highlighting what the recent US model indicated (its inaccurate !)
That number includes the number of people who recovered.Total cases numbers up alot aint they mate? 3039 yesterday compared to 3836 today....
Good news that deaths and intensive care numbers down!
With different countries stats being measured differently its hard to be certain but when its all over I'm sure the data will be poured over and the numbers crunched so it is comparable. If that shows we've done significantly worse than other countries there will be questions to answer. As you suggest we should really be in a stronger position than other countries given a two week head start and the fact we're an island.
No way. We’re at 7k now and a week from peak, you’d assume as many after peak as before surely. Then you’ve got to add in all those outside hospital and those extra deaths not directly from CV. We’d do very well to keep it below 20k all told on current projections. There’s every chance we’re close to that already.
Have a look at the data from ten days ago: Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics
You can’t discount every death not directly attributed to CV, you’ve got to look at total increase in deaths compared to a normal year. Half the problem is the overloaded healthcare system itself.
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