Yes flu is more deadly in the old than the young but not nearly to the same degree.But it's all relative. Flu also has a much higher mortality rate amongst the elderly and those with underlying health issues. The point being, the death rate across all age groups for flu is 0.05%-0.1% and for Coronavirus it is over 2% - i.e it is MUCH more deadly than flu, which is also much better understood and predictable.
In the US, 100,000 cases of flu results in around 15 deaths. 100,000 cases of Coronavirus it would be 2000.
Yes flu is more deadly in the old than the young but not nearly to the same degree.
AGE
DEATH RATE*
80+ years old
14.8%
70-79 years old
8.0%
60-69 years old
3.6%
50-59 years old
1.3%
40-49 years old
0.4%
30-39 years old
0.2%
20-29 years old
0.2%
10-19 years old
0.2%
0-9 years old
no fatalities
Yes, but it doesn't escape the fact that overall Coronavirus is 20 x more deadly. The life of somebody over 80 is not worth any less than mine. I know that if I get it my chances of dying are very slim, but 2000 deaths for every 100,000 cases would be horrendous, so the actions of governments in trying to contain this are entirely sensible and in no way and overreaction as some suggest.
The longer uk cases remain relatively low the better. Let’s hope you’re right and the impact is minimal.
That re-infected Japanese lady is worrying though.
it isn’t it’s 4 times
To me it is obvious there is more to this that what’s being said publicly.
No, it isn't. It is 20-40x. Since when has flu had a mortality rate of 0.5%?
So far this flu season, about 0.05% of people who caught the flu have died from the virus in the U.S., according to CDC data.
In the study published Feb. 18 in the China CDC Weekly, researchers found a death rate from COVID-19 to be around 2.3% in mainland China. That's much higher than the death rate linked to flu, which is typically around 0.1% in the U.S., according to The New York Times.
Also as the virus is relatively mild in most healthy adults lots of them won't have been to hospital. The medical experts agree it's a relatively mild but contagious virus. But that doesn't make a good story.It is. The CMO has said these rates will be overstated as many will not report it who survive and to actually get an accurate number you need a controlled environment
The cruise ship rate was 0.4% of a more vulnerable demographic
It is. The CMO has said these rates will be overstated as many will not report it who survive and to actually get an accurate number you need a controlled environment
The cruise ship rate was 0.4% of a more vulnerable demographic
Correct. I read that stat. The bit I saw suggested flu = 0.5 per thousand and Covid19 = 2.0/1000 infected.it isn’t it’s 4 times
Correct. I read that stat. The bit I saw suggested flu = 0.5 per thousand and Covid19 = 2.0/1000 infected.
It's over a week out of dateIt may well be overstated for the reason given, but equally you cannot declare that the mortality rate is '0.4%', citing the cruise ship as the only source of sample data - it is an incredibly small sample on which to make that assertion, especially as only 10 of the 700 cases has the patient fully recovered - with 4 deaths and 36 still critical/serious . The mortality rates are not fully understood and there are wide variations. In China it is now reported to be 3.5%, in Iran 11% but in Korea only 1%. There will be unreported cases, but not all that many given how tightly controlled the outbreaks are. Point is, we don't know, and at this stage I think the alarm is justified until we do. I am currently working for a Chinese company, and I've been having video conference calls with Chinese colleagues for the last month and let me tell you, the situation there was much worse than we were ever told.
This goes into detail regarding mortality rates for COVID-19
Coronavirus Mortality Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer
It's over a week out of date
That's a different link mateNo, it is updated by the hour: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The live data backs up entirely what was said in the section relating to death rates, so there is no significant update to that since it was published.
I was late teens when that was on but still found it scarey. I haven't seen it since it was first screened but can remember the opening credits with people collapsing at airports etc. I'll have to look it up. Has it aged well?Me too. Vaguely remember when I was a kid and being scared to death, loved the credits. Bought it on DVD years ago and watch it every now and then.
A poor man's Cyrille Regis.What about Ebola?
That's a different link mate
I hope so, cos I know I haven't.I was late teens when that was on but still found it scarey. I haven't seen it since it was first screened but can remember the opening credits with people collapsing at airports etc. I'll have to look it up. Has it aged well?
It's a different page it links to though, now you going ignore my other post?It's the same website.
Also you don't take into account the varying mortality rates per country that can ho from zero to 10% and are likely to do have conditions of habitation, underlying health of population and the standard of the healthcare system in that area.
You also fail to take into account the worldwide vaccination programmes against seasonal flu.
It's a different page it links to though, now you going ignore my other post?
It's bollocks to say you have to look at other factors to try and understand why Iran can have a 10% mortality rate ut other places a 0% RATE.Yeah, I was going to ignore it because it's utter bollocks tbf.
It's bollocks to say you have to look at other factors to try and understand why Iran can have a 10% mortality rate ut other places a 0% RATE.
You're fucki g done here mate. You're a weirdo who likes to pretend they are smart on a website. Back to infowars you go
I'm no expert, you have to factor in other data when looking at the mortality rates of a virus. There are massive differences in the rates of say Iran and Singapore which are unlikely to be chance.Hey Nick, can we add Medical Experts to our list of forum strong points please?
I'm no expert, you have to factor in other data when looking at the mortality rates of a virus. There are massive differences in the rates of say Iran and Singapore which are unlikely to be chance.
Way more deadly, way less contagious. Hence it has always been contained (so far) as it isn’t spread by coughing and sneezing.What about Ebola?
I was late teens when that was on but still found it scarey. I haven't seen it since it was first screened but can remember the opening credits with people collapsing at airports etc. I'll have to look it up. Has it aged well?
I would like to watch it all again, because I was in love with Carolyn Seymour.First series is great, second OK, third is rubbish. Basically they had a tiny budget for the third series, so it was just like Emmerdale, concentrating on self sufficiency and that. I have them as video files, so if you want them on a memory stick, send me a PM.
I like the way the mortality rate is kind of downplayed as ‘affecting the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions’ most. Which is fine if you aren’t elderly and don’t have a pre-existing condition. I guess those of us that do or are don’t matter as much!The average mortality rate for people without pre-existing conditions in under 1%, if you are under 60 you can halve that figure. It's us 80+ year olds with all sorts of health issues that have to be really worried.
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