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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,476
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
Grendel why do you have to resort to referring back 50 years to Labour policy of the 70s? We are in the here and now of a national crisis and Raab is now the man in control ! His track record needs scrutiny Dover/ Nurses etc etc. Seriously hope for all our families he proves capable. Many of us have fundamental doubts about him and given the inept bunch of Brexit frothers in current cabinet its more likely to be an unmitigating disaster. I never thought Id say it but BoJo is by miles the best and only option for Conservative leadership .
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I go back to the 70’s as for many that’s the last labour government

People can have doubts but to start trying to point score and take pot shots on small individual issues is hardly going to get a polite response from me

I had one experience in an NHS a and e Ward when I was taken in with a suspected emergency. It’s corridors were rammed with people and many had no water and no access to any

It was 2006
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,477
skybluetony176 said:
Fail to prepare, prepare to fail. It isn’t every country either. The warning signs were there from SARS, MERS, bird flu, swine flu etc etc. Some countries did pay attention and were prepared.
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Which European countries were prepared?
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,478
This thread is insufferable.

I am apolitical, and I fail to see anyone from any party in this mess, who would have handled the crisis in a way to please all the keyboard experts.

Theirs cunts on the left as well as the right, not just in politics but also in the world of keyboard warriors.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,479
djr8369 said:
The first stage of lockdown ending is likely to be sections of society going back to work to get some of the economy going, while social activities will still be banned, which I think will disappoint a lot of people.
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Yeah pubs and restaurants will be the very last places to be opened back up.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,480
Grendel said:
The left always scream death to Tory leaders - same with thatcher and even many of them towards Blair - drag to to The Hague and out him in prison - some are now suggesting a national holiday to celebrate Johnson’s death

The left are always going to act like this as they are always in the minority and always show their true colours in times like this

If people show respect ad dignity they will get the same from me - if they don’t they won’t
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Some? A few nutters on Twitter. Using your logic you must have thrown a party the night the Tories and DUP celebrated denying the emergency services the pay rise they clearly deserve. Was Dom there too.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,481
skybluetony176 said:
Some? A few nutters on Twitter. Using your logic you must have thrown a party the night the Tories and DUP celebrated denying the emergency services the pay rise they clearly deserve. Was Dom there too.
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I didn’t vote Tory in 2015 Tony you did oh and in 2017 as well - when did you go full UKIP?
 
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djr8369

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,482
Grendel said:
Also as this forum now seems to have become a small band of left wing frothers venting their spleen perhaps one of you can explain the labour policy on politicians pay

The Blair government voted several times for inflation busting pay rises and then an independent body was set up

In 2015 it suggested a £7,000 pay rise in austerity Britain for MPs

Many labour MPs said it sent out a wrong message. The SNP MPs gave the pay rise to charity. However, despite the indignation I do not think any Labour MP did the same or indeed in 2017 when the rise was around 3% - there may be some but I can’t find any
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I'm old enough to remember when now wasn't the time for political point scoring.

Virtually everyone has wished Johnson all the best and yet all you want to do while his life is in danger is stick the knife into previous labour governments. You are an absurd and ridiculous caricature at times.
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,483
Moff said:
This thread is insufferable.

I am apolitical, and I fail to see anyone from any party in this mess, who would have handled the crisis in a way to please all the keyboard experts.

Theirs cunts on the left as well as the right, not just in politics but also in the world of keyboard warriors.
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Would Labour's policy of investing in the NHS have helped or hindered the efforts?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,484
Grendel said:
Which European countries were prepared?
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You said no countries. I was answering the specific point you made and now you want to move the goalposts because you let in an own goal. No surprise.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,485
Just been told I have to use half my holiday allowance by June. Also the right for me to buy holiday has been taken away.

I know there are bigger issues in the world right now but it's a bummer.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,486
Grendel said:
The left always scream death to Tory leaders - same with thatcher and even many of them towards Blair - drag to to The Hague and out him in prison - some are now suggesting a national holiday to celebrate Johnson’s death

The left are always going to act like this as they are always in the minority and always show their true colours in times like this

If people show respect ad dignity they will get the same from me - if they don’t they won’t
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It's almost like the last several years of absurd hate from the right aimed at Corbyn has passed you by.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,487
Grenners talks shite with a hangover shock
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,488
djr8369 said:
I'm old enough to remember when now wasn't the time for political point scoring.

Virtually everyone has wished Johnson all the best and yet all you want to do while his life is in danger is stick the knife into previous labour governments. You are an absurd and ridiculous caricature at times.
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He’s been accused on here in the last eeek of lying regarding his illness, lazy and apparently having a personal vendetta against the NHS
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,489
djr8369 said:
It's almost like the last several years of absurd hate from the right aimed at Corbyn has passed you by.
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No one wanted him dead
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,490
David O'Day said:
Grenners talks shite with a hangover shock
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You have an amazing lack of political knowledge David
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,491
Germany has 29 ICU beds per 1000 people.

Fance has 11, Italy has 12, Spain has 10.

We have 6.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,492
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Just been told I have to use half my holiday allowance by June. Also the right for me to buy holiday has been taken away.

I know there are bigger issues in the world right now but it's a bummer.
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Are they actually allowed to do that? As far as I am aware they are only able to make you use holiday that you have 'earnt' through work.
 

Moff

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,493
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
Would Labour's policy of investing in the NHS have helped or hindered the efforts?
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Like with any Government it would depend where the money was focussed...services or multi layered management or even the massive loans that need servicing from Labour introduced PSI initiatives.

I think they are all shit so don’t try and engage me in a political point scoring exercise.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,494
Grendel said:
You have an amazing lack of political knowledge David
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Yep he's still talking shite

You're thick as mince mate, it's fucking great to watch you try though so keep it up.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,495
Grendel said:
He’s been accused on here in the last eeek of lying regarding his illness, lazy and apparently having a personal vendetta against the NHS
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Yes, but not one person has wished death on him, as much as you want us to.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,496
Grendel said:
No one wanted him dead
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Who wants Boris dead?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,497
PVA said:
Germany has 29 ICU beds per 1000 people.

Fance has 11, Italy has 12, Spain has 10.

We have 6.
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Haven’t France and Italy used German beds for some patients?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,498
Grendel said:
I didn’t vote Tory in 2015 Tony you did oh and in 2017 as well - when did you go full UKIP?
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I did in 2015 and voted Labour in 2017 so you’re wrong. You did vote Tories in 2017 and guess what, the vote happened after that general election. Hence the Tories and DUP celebrated shamefully together. Must have been a proud moment for you. Never went full UKIP as you know so why you pretend I did is typical from someone who described Ferage as “The Man”.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,499
PVA said:
Yes, but not one person has wished death on him, as much as you want us to.
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Others accused you of the same yesterday
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,500
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Just been told I have to use half my holiday allowance by June. Also the right for me to buy holiday has been taken away.

I know there are bigger issues in the world right now but it's a bummer.
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Going anywhere nice?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,501
Grendel said:
Others accused you of the same yesterday
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Yes they did, falsely.

If you can point out where I wished death on him then I will apologise.

I just pointed out some his failings/errors, which I'm sure you can appreciate does not equate to wanting him to die.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,502
PVA said:
Yes they did, falsely.

If you can point out where I wished death on him then I will apologise.

I just pointed out some his failings/errors, which I'm sure you can appreciate does not equate to wanting him to die.
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So we were all wrong - ok
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,503
skybluetony176 said:
I did in 2015 and voted Labour in 2017 so you’re wrong. You did vote Tories in 2017 and guess what, the vote happened after that general election. Hence the Tories and DUP celebrated shamefully together. Must have been a proud moment for you. Never went full UKIP as you know so why you pretend I did is typical from someone who described Ferage as “The Man”.
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Tony that’s like saying it was a proud moment for all Labour supporters in 2009 when Jacque Smith denied the Police their pay award from the previously binding Police Arbitration panel, and for the first time ever the Police tried to change law to be able to strike.

That arguments bullshit, as they all fuck over the emergency services when it suits them.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,504
Grendel said:
So we were all wrong - ok
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Er, yes.

If bringing up someone's errors means you want them to die, then I assume you're absolutely desperate for Bakayoko and Biamou to croak it, and probably would quite like Robins to as well.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,505
Grendel said:
The left always scream death to Tory leaders - same with thatcher and even many of them towards Blair - drag to to The Hague and out him in prison - some are now suggesting a national holiday to celebrate Johnson’s death

The left are always going to act like this as they are always in the minority and always show their true colours in times like this

If people show respect ad dignity they will get the same from me - if they don’t they won’t
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I have seen some of that stuff. But I have yet to see anyone on here say anything like that. So why go so nuts at everyone else on here? Not one single person is not hoping he recovers, which seems to be annoying you even more for some twisted reason.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,506
Grendel said:
He’s been accused on here in the last eeek of lying regarding his illness, lazy and apparently having a personal vendetta against the NHS
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It was mooted, so what? It's not unreasonable to speculate that. As I recall it was only really RoS who last night wished him well. Anyway, deflecting as usual.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,507
Moff said:
Tony that’s like saying it was a proud moment for all Labour supporters in 2009 when Jacque Smith denied the Police their pay award from the previously binding Police Arbitration panel, and for the first time ever the Police tried to change law to be able to strike.

That arguments bullshit, as they all fuck over the emergency services when it suits them.
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this won’t go well
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,508
Grendel said:
Which European countries were prepared?
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Germany, Slovakia and Poland were better prepared.
Slovakia and Poland went into lock.down quiet early.
If it's transpires that we should of, I can give the government a bit of leeway on that because of the uniqueness of the situation.
The fact Germany had almost 5 times as many ICU beds per 100,000 is on them and is unforgivable.
 
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Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,509
Grendel said:
this won’t go well
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just giving some balance!
 
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djr8369

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,510
Grendel said:
No one wanted him dead
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Could find plenty of social media posts wishing him dead. Nobody is frothing about the hateful right though and projecting those sentiments as having come from people on here when everyone has wished him well.
 
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