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David O'Day

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,406
clint van damme said:
When you're Dominic Raab the best strategy when speaking in public is to take a short, simple statement and keep repeating it.
Otherwise you end up with a 'Dover' moment
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He's really not very good is he
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,407
David O'Day said:
He's really not very good is he
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This cabinet were chosen based on their Brexit stance and not on their capabilities, so we're in a little bit of a pickle now.
 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,408
How many deaths have we had in Coventry does anyone know ?
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,409
cc84cov said:
How many deaths have we had in Coventry does anyone know ?
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80 I think
Latest Midlands coronavirus cases - as death toll in Cov and Warks reaches 80
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,410
cc84cov said:
How many deaths have we had in Coventry does anyone know ?
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Cases. Not sure on deaths.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,411
Ring Of Steel said:
80 I think
Latest Midlands coronavirus cases - as death toll in Cov and Warks reaches 80
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Ah ok that’s across 3 hospitals
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,412
PVA said:
This cabinet were chosen based on their Brexit stance and not on their capabilities, so we're in a little bit of a pickle now.
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The thing is we can't expect to see Johnson back anytime soon.
Hopefully he'll be out of ICU ASAP but he's still going to need a fair few weeks convalesence so this isn't going to be a short term thing.
Someone is going to have to manage this through it's crucial stages and make the big call regarding end of lockdown.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,413
Otis said:
Cases. Not sure on deaths.View attachment 14797
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I know that is only people sick enough to present at hospital but for a city the size of Coventry with demographics of coventry it is quite low.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,414
clint van damme said:
The thing is we can't expect to see Johnson back anytime soon.
Hopefully he'll be out of ICU ASAP but he's still going to need a fair few weeks convalesence so this isn't going to be a short term thing.
Someone is going to have to manage this through it's crucial stages and make the big call regarding end of lockdown.
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Can't our Donald pop over?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,415
clint van damme said:
The thing is we can't expect to see Johnson back anytime soon.
Hopefully he'll be out of ICU ASAP but he's still going to need a fair few weeks convalesence so this isn't going to be a short term thing.
Someone is going to have to manage this through it's crucial stages and make the big call regarding end of lockdown.
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Yeah Dominic "Dover" Raab
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,416
David O'Day said:
I know that is only people sick enough to present at hospital but for a city the size of Coventry with demographics of coventry it is quite low.
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I thought the same thing mate it’s low
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,417
David O'Day said:
Yeah Dominic "Dover" Raab
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Nothing wrong with Dominic Raab, will do a great job stepping in
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,418
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Nothing wrong with Dominic Raab, will do a great job stepping in
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you sound like a Russian Bot
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,419
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Nothing wrong with Dominic Raab, will do a great job stepping in
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Yeah, top fella.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,420
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Nothing wrong with Dominic Raab, will do a great job stepping in
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He's exhibit a in the case that shows lack of talent is no bar to progression in the modern Conservative party.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,421
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Nothing wrong with Dominic Raab, will do a great job stepping in
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You've jumped the shark here mate
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,422
PVA said:
You've jumped the shark here mate
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Meaning what?
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,423
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Nothing wrong with Dominic Raab, will do a great job stepping in
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curious to know exactly what the mud on Tory shoes tastes like, reckon you can let me know?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,424
PVA said:
This cabinet were chosen based on their Brexit stance and not on their capabilities, so we're in a little bit of a pickle now.
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Everything you need to know about Brexit in one sentence.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,425
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Meaning what?
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Meaning he's shite and as Clint said unless he sticks to repeating the same 3 word sentence will likely start to reveal things like how he didn't know how important Dover was to trade.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,426
skybluetony176 said:
Everything you need to know about Brexit in one sentence.
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Oh dear, its always the 'experts' like yourself that think they know best
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,427
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Oh dear, its always the 'experts' like yourself that think they know best
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Ah the conservative contempt for experts
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,428
I think the figure everyone's going by are the tip of the iceberg.

Not everyone who has the flu or other symptoms are going to contact the doctor but will just self-isolate until they are well enough again or things get to the point where they need medical assistance.

There may be a good chance the figures could just be showing the top eschelons of when help is needed and not the full impact of the virus is having on society in general or in most cases.

Feeling better by the way after a few grotty days of flu etc but that could just be the almighty hangover from the vodka.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,429
SeaSeeEffCee said:
curious to know exactly what the mud on Tory shoes tastes like, reckon you can let me know?
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Its just called getting behind someone who's trying to lead our country through this terrible time, should try it instead of making petty comments like that
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,430
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Oh dear, its always the 'experts' like yourself that think they know best
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there’s a video of Raab in interviews doing the rounds, you should make the effort to find it. He doesn’t think foodbanks are caused by poverty as opposed to just ‘temporary cashflow issues’, he thinks funding the NHS is childish etc, this is not a man for leading all elements of society through a crisis.

this government was put together for brexit and things like that, as we are seeing all too vividly they have no idea whatsoever how to actually lead or protect their citizens.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,431
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Oh dear, its always the 'experts' like yourself that think they know best
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Seriously. If the events of the last few months haven’t taught you what a trivial, petty, pointless, stupid waste of time brexit is then you’re beyond help.
 
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djr8369

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,432
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Its just called getting behind someone who's trying to lead our country through this terrible time, should try it instead of making petty comments like that
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What does "getting behind" them even mean, in this context?

It's not like supporting the city at a game you know. They can't see or hear you getting behind them.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,433
clint van damme said:
The thing is we can't expect to see Johnson back anytime soon.
Hopefully he'll be out of ICU ASAP but he's still going to need a fair few weeks convalesence so this isn't going to be a short term thing.
Someone is going to have to manage this through it's crucial stages and make the big call regarding end of lockdown.
Click to expand...

Not sure lockdown is ending any time soon unfortunately Clint. I’m guessing measures might start to be relaxed in coming weeks (mid/late May ?)

There will be pressure on the government to relax them sooner but hopefully whoever’s in charge will follow the scientific/medical advice. That’s all we can ask for.

ps I know some might disagree with me but I think we can see (or at least appreciate) on the behavioural science side of things, why there was a want/need to leave the lockdown until as late as possible in order to get maximum benefit and minimise it’s negative impacts. Domestic violence up 25%, kids being kept out of school away from their friends, economic impact for millions (which is likely to have subsequent impact on health) and increased anxiety/depression will no doubt be another major symptom. Comments about the government and their advisors ‘dithering’ etc when making the original decision (not you Clint) need to consider the bigger, wider picture. Every decision made will have positive and negative impacts elsewhere. It’s trying to make sure even if there are negative implications, the positives outweigh them
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,434
Philosorapter said:
I think the figure everyone's going by are the tip of the iceberg.

Not everyone who has the flu or other symptoms are going to contact the doctor but will just self-isolate until they are well enough again or things get to the point where they need medical assistance.

There may be a good chance the figures could just be showing the top eschelons of when help is needed and not the full impact of the virus is having on society in general or in most cases.

Feeling better by the way after a few grotty days of flu etc but that could just be the almighty hangover from the vodka.
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glad you’re feeling better
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,435
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Oh dear, its always the 'experts' like yourself that think they know best
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No it's pretty obvious that the cabinet was chosen based on their Brexit stance. Whether you think they are any good or not, that's up to you. But they got their cabinet jobs based on their Brexit stance.

Our Home Secretary was all but sacked for secret meetings with foreign officials, and willing to funnel our money into a foreign army.

But she likes Brexit so now she's Home Secretary.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,436
CCFCSteve said:
Not sure lockdown is ending any time soon unfortunately Clint. I’m guessing measures might start to be relaxed in coming weeks (mid/late May ?)

There will be pressure on the government to relax them sooner but hopefully whoever’s in charge will follow the scientific/medical advice. That’s all we can ask for.

ps I know some might disagree with me but I think we can see (or at least appreciate) on the behavioural science side of things, why there was a want/need to leave the lockdown until as late as possible in order to get maximum benefit and minimise it’s negative impacts. Domestic violence up 25%, kids being kept out of school away from their friends, economic impact for millions (which is likely to have subsequent impact on health) and increased anxiety/depression will no doubt be another major symptom. Comments about the government and their advisors ‘dithering’ etc when making the original decision (not you Clint) need to consider the bigger, wider picture. Every decision made will have positive and negative impacts elsewhere. It’s trying to make sure even if there are negative implications, the positives outweigh them
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Yeah deffo, like Whitty said we just need to make sure we've got over the peak and are consistently on the way down....then i think it will be on and off lockdowns if we get more waves until the vaccine is ready with restrictions slowly lifted in the weeks to come.....

Can see pubs being one of the last things to be opened like
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,437
CCFCSteve said:
Not sure lockdown is ending any time soon unfortunately Clint. I’m guessing measures might start to be relaxed in coming weeks (mid/late May ?)

There will be pressure on the government to relax them sooner but hopefully whoever’s in charge will follow the scientific/medical advice. That’s all we can ask for.

ps I know some might disagree with me but I think we can see (or at least appreciate) on the behavioural science side of things, why there was a want/need to leave the lockdown until as late as possible in order to get maximum benefit and minimise it’s negative impacts. Domestic violence up 25%, kids being kept out of school away from their friends, economic impact for millions (which is likely to have subsequent impact on health) and increased anxiety/depression will no doubt be another major symptom. Comments about the government and their advisors ‘dithering’ etc when making the original decision (not you Clint) need to consider the bigger, wider picture. Every decision made will have positive and negative impacts elsewhere. It’s trying to make sure even if there are negative implications, the positives outweigh them
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your points would carry more weight had the govt not continually contradicted themselves and been caught out lying. They changed their entire strategy based on the findings of the Cambridge study, the delay may well have benefits for all any of us know, but it was based on having a terrible plan, having it pointed out to them that it would kill hundreds of thousands and having to U turn.
 

clint van damme

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,438
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Nothing wrong with Dominic Raab, will do a great job stepping in
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He's another one who hates the NHS Dom. You are aware of that.
He said nurses didn't deserve proposed 1 percent pay rise. Do you agree with him Dom?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,439
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Its just called getting behind someone who's trying to lead our country through this terrible time, should try it instead of making petty comments like that
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You’ve put your faith in a man who against all the advice of experts went and shook hands with people suffering from Coronavirus, that man you’ve put your faith in is now seriously ill in hospital. He’s an ignoramus who looks like Einstein compared to Rabb and you’re now putting your faith in someone who out Diane Abbott’s the PM who is the Tories Diane Abbott.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 7, 2020
  • #13,440
clint van damme said:
He's another one who hates the NHS Dom. You are aware of that.
He said nurses didn't deserve proposed 1 percent pay rise. Do you agree with him Dom?
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In fairness to Raab, he's not the only one. They entire party (bar one MP) voted against the payrise.

And then cheered when they won.
 
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