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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,971
Grendel said:
Which of course no one said and I’m still waiting on answers I may hacevtk start a separate thread on the points you are refusing to answer
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,972
@Sick Boy Whats the Italy numbers mate? Think i seen it on twitter but wasn't sure if it was confirmed
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,973
SkyBlueDom26 said:
@Sick Boy Whats the Italy numbers mate? Think i seen it on twitter but wasn't sure if it was confirmed
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Not been announced yet mate, will post as they come through.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,974
Sick Boy said:
Not been announced yet mate, will post as they come through.
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Think the cases are down but the deaths are slightly up from a few accounts on twitter
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,975
clint van damme said:
per hand?
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I think so, as long as you wash them both after whilst singing happy birthday (or sing happy birthday before If you’d prefer)
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,976
Anybody got today's scores on the doors so we can all discuss a line on a graph nobody knows anything about?
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,977
Nick said:
Anybody got today's scores on the doors so we can all discuss a line on a graph nobody knows anything about?
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I'll be ready with the graphs but that will be a while yet, the fake numbers are being manipulated to fit the desired narrative to plot onto the incorrect scale as we speak.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,978
Ring Of Steel said:
I'll be ready with the graphs but that will be a while yet, the fake numbers are being manipulated to fit the desired narrative to plot onto the incorrect scale as we speak.
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Happy days, we should be following (INSERT RANDOM COUNTRY HERE)'s approach, they have very smooth lines.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,979
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Think the cases are down but the deaths are slightly up from a few accounts on twitter
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On the Lombardy ones have been announced so far
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,980
Nick said:
Happy days, we should be following (INSERT RANDOM COUNTRY HERE)'s approach, they have very smooth lines.
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You're the boss, I'll make some calls.
 

ccfcricoh

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,981
Italy are 766 i believe so not much of a movement over last couple of days in either direction
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,982
Canada numbers up by 12k
Don't know if they're testing heavily or collating numbers en bloc , but that's a significant number.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,983
ccfcricoh said:
Italy are 766 i believe so not much of a movement over last couple of days in either direction
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Will post up confirmed numbers when they decide to bother starting.
I think the peak is happening now, hopefully next week it’ll look a bit better.
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,984
Nick said:
Anybody got today's scores on the doors so we can all discuss a line on a graph nobody knows anything about?
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Gotta know in graph form who to send prayers to
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,985
4585 new cases and 766 new deaths in Italy[source]

Cases down but deaths up by 6... would you say the curve is flattening? @Sick Boy
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,986
fernandopartridge said:
We are lucky that we do have some world class universities here. I can't really explain how the alumni that we end up with as MPs don't show much of that.
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Cos all the ones that are actually good at anything go on to something other than politics.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,987
New positives: 2339 - but a lot more testing going on now
Deaths: 766
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,988
It's been hard to make sense around China today .
The latest seems to suggest that it's a different area with 'several' cases going into restrictions.
I suppose that's what we.will be up against when we finally lift things here.

Edit:- they also still suggest that 10's of cases are being reported among returning nationals.
I wouldn't think there would be many of those left doing this.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,989
SkyBlueDom26 said:
4585 new cases and 766 new deaths in Italy[source]

Cases down but deaths up by 6... would you say the curve is flattening? @Sick Boy
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The new confirmed cases is 2339 but loads more testing is happening. I think next week it’ll start to go down
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,990
Sick Boy said:
New positives: 2339 - but a lot more testing going on now
Deaths: 766
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Going the right way then!!
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,991
Very informative briefing tonight, lots of info in regards to treatments etc....
 

ccfcricoh

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,992
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Very informative briefing tonight, lots of info in regards to treatments etc....
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I've missed it... is this sarcastic or not?! Genuine question ha!
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,993
hill83 said:
I need to fix a fence. But my div of a neighbour keeps trying to stand near me to talk whenever I go in the back garden so I’m currently hiding.
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You are Boris Johnson and I claim my £5.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,994
Spurs 'City Away Kit' Kit said:
Just read the following online from an article taken from the Guardian...

For much of the week, it’s been as if the government has gone out of its way to appear wilfully clueless. First, the psychotically unstable Dominic Raab, then the pathologically untrustworthy Michael Gove, culminating with the shambolically underprepared Alok Sharma.

Every time someone mentions the bias of the 'tory press' they need to remember there is bias the other way too!

Bizarrely the article went on to say 'Thank God for Matt Hancock'
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When you're grateful that Hancock is the best available you know things are bad.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,995
ccfcricoh said:
I've missed it... is this sarcastic or not?! Genuine question ha!
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Genuine mate, the deputy medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam is really clear and to the point with info
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,996
Just found we might be getting furloughed in the next few weeks
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,997
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Well with today's figures lets hope Spain is on the other side now and hopefully Italy will have lower figures later
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You do seem obsessed with the daily figures and extrapolating stuff from them. You really can't do so - things could fluctuate quite significantly day to day.. Best thing to do is check them weekly and look for a trend in that data.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,998
Ring Of Steel said:
Well thats fair enough, however what I can and am telling you is that HMRC will be using "every tool in their arsenal" to audit and check somewhere down the line. And those boys have some pretty serious tools in their box, speaking from bitter experience they use GCHQ to get hold of any emails they like and you'd never know it was happening (that was a much more serious issue than furlough tbf, but you don't fuck with HMRC!)
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If I were you I'd have added an extra bit on the end of "unless you're a multi-billion dollar individual/corporation able to 'sweet-talk' your way out of it"
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,999
Ring Of Steel said:
Clearly when you have a dataset as big as this you can use trends to very good effect. Individual differences would only render comparison meaningless if the sample size was much smaller.
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There’s undoubtedly a lot of noise, that’s why rolling averages are used in most of the graphs.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #12,000
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
You are Boris Johnson and I claim my £5.
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No.
That's his neighbour.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #12,001
SkyBlueDom26 said:
What else have they done wrong? We locked down..... No Government could have predicted this happening
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They have been warned that a pandemic was one of the most likely 'worst case scenarios' to occur and that the health service was woefully under-funded and under-prepared in terms of equipment for that scenario. They chose to ignore it and implemented austerity cuts resulting in real-term funding cuts.

So yes, they could have predicted this because they were warned.

Not that I'm saying any other party would've done much, if any, better
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #12,002
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
You do seem obsessed with the daily figures and extrapolating stuff from them. You really can't do so - things could fluctuate quite significantly day to day.. Best thing to do is check them weekly and look for a trend in that data.
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Yeah you have to look at trends and if the increase is slowing. Also while death counts are always the headline geavmbbers new cases are just as if not more important

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
 
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Spurs 'City Away Kit' Kit

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #12,003
skybluesam66 said:
it gets worse - Wanking ban

Boss of hire car firm tells employees 'watch Netflix, drink beer & avoid excessive masturbation' after furloughing them
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What if you use someone elses hand?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #12,004
Sick Boy said:
I have actually said nothing of the sort.
Flights were stopped coming in from China to here actually before other countries.

The sovereignty of Parliament is a fundamental principle of the UK constitution. Whilst Parliament has remained sovereign throughout our membership of the EU, it has not always felt like that.

Was this a lie?
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I asked about cross border travel in Europe
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #12,005
SkyBlueDom26 said:
4585 new cases and 766 new deaths in Italy[source]

Cases down but deaths up by 6... would you say the curve is flattening? @Sick Boy
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Another 500 could have died in Italy and not been recorded
 
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