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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,586
MalcSB said:
Not debts to outside sources. Trusts who spend more than their income have interest bearing loans from the Government. The interest and loan repayments make it more difficult to live within income, so more loans given. It’s not all loans that are being written off, only a certain type of loan. Most non foundation Trusts have loans. UHCW isn’t a foundation trust.
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The whole charade is purely designed to make the government balance sheet look better, it serves no other useful purpose. Erm yeah we'll come up with a tariff regime that isn't enough to fund the cost of your services, we'll loan you the balance with interest. Oh, and here's a PFI hospital you'll have to find the money for over the next 30 years.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,587
fernandopartridge said:
The whole charade is purely designed to make the government balance sheet look better, it serves no other useful purpose. Erm yeah we'll come up with a tariff regime that isn't enough to fund the cost of your services, we'll loan you the balance with interest. Oh, and here's a PFI hospital you'll have to find the money for over the next 30 years.
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That’s it in a nutshell.
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,588
Nick said:
So many people are at it.

Have to try and outdo each other for likes
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Well West Midlands Police sent about 10 cars and their helicopter to Walsgrave hospital tonight so a few bangers isn't going to win it.
A very Nice use of resources. Anyone got an idea on how much it costs to get the helicoptor in the air?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,589
Flying Fokker said:
Just seen the France figures.

1355 deaths. 24 hours.

it’s not in one day
  • 2116 new cases and 1355 new deaths in France, including 884 fatalities in nursing homes [source] [source]
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,590
https://www.facebook.com/


All Coventry police outside UHCW applauding.

Heartwarming
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,591
Flying Fokker said:
Just seen the France figures.

1355 deaths. 24 hours.


  • 2116 new cases and 1355 new deaths in France, including 884 fatalities in nursing homes [source] [source]
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Thats terrifying
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,592
If they also got the helicopter up its scandalous waste of resources
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,593
Saddlebrains said:
Thats terrifying
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it’s not one day - they have added the care home ones in from the start and now admit they are probably more
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,594
Saddlebrains said:
Thats terrifying
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They said lots of homes had people dying
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,595
eastwoodsdustman said:
Well West Midlands Police sent about 10 cars and their helicopter to Walsgrave hospital tonight so a few bangers isn't going to win it.
A very Nice use of resources. Anyone got an idea on how much it costs to get the helicoptor in the air?
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Looking at another forces website it looks like it is around 1,700 an hour
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,596
clint van damme said:
I saw there's starting to be some civil unrest in Italy, (you might tell me that's bollocks), but if its true, how long can the lock down hold before people really lose it?
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There was some in Sicily which has a lot of off the books cash in hand work so people couldn’t claim government funded wages while they’re laid off. Since then millions have been allocated for food vouchers for those in need.
I think it’ll go on until May but it’ll hold until then, overall it’s being respected very well now.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,597
Graph guy just updated for today’s figures, doesn’t make for good reading unfortunately

 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,598
David O'Day said:
Looking at another forces website it looks like it is around 1,700 an hour
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Well worth it then.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,599
eastwoodsdustman said:
Well worth it then.
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The old bill have been taking absolute liberties.

Also if anyone has any crime to commit do it 8pm next Thursday, the dibble will all be down walsgrave
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,600
Ring Of Steel said:
Graph guy just updated for today’s figures, doesn’t make for good reading unfortunately

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How is that showing the 1,300 recorded deaths on France today?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,601
Grendel said:
it’s not one day - they have added the care home ones in from the start and now admit they are probably more
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Ours are going to be announced weekly.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,602
Sky Blue Pete said:
They said lots of homes had people dying
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Many countries it seems are hiding deaths out of hospital

Subscribe to read | Financial Times
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,603
Ring Of Steel said:
Graph guy just updated for today’s figures, doesn’t make for good reading unfortunately

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USA now saying they might have a million cases on their own within a few weeks
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,604
The article quoted a place called Bergamo where 900 died in March last year. This year 5,040 died but only 2,060 in the Coronavirus stats. In one care home alone over 50 died but none included in the stats
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,605
fernandopartridge said:
The whole charade is purely designed to make the government balance sheet look better, it serves no other useful purpose. Erm yeah we'll come up with a tariff regime that isn't enough to fund the cost of your services, we'll loan you the balance with interest. Oh, and here's a PFI hospital you'll have to find the money for over the next 30 years.
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Funny how 3 years ago they cheered when rejecting a pay rise for nurses, then last year they told the NHS there was no magic money tree, and yet now that they’re in the shit up to their necks they miraculously have £13bn to fiddle around with.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,606
David O'Day said:
Looking at another forces website it looks like it is around 1,700 an hour
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Can the world please please stop this self indulgent nonsense?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,607
Grendel said:
The article quoted a place called Bergamo where 900 died in March last year. This year 5,040 died but only 2,060 in the Coronavirus stats. In one care home alone over 50 died but none included in the stats
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The way deaths are reported is inconsistent everywhere it seems which doesn’t give a clear picture of what’s going on.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,608
fernandopartridge said:
Can the world please please stop this self indulgent nonsense?
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The curse of social media, unfortunately
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,609
Ring Of Steel said:
Funny how 3 years ago they cheered when rejecting a pay rise for nurses, then last year they told the NHS there was no magic money tree, and yet now that they’re in the shit up to their necks they miraculously have £13bn to fiddle around with.
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Let's be fair to the tories here, Labour did nothing about any of this shit either
 
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eastwoodsdustman

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  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,610
Grendel said:
Many countries it seems are hiding deaths out of hospital

Subscribe to read | Financial Times
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A bit like China? They have so much to answer for. They've sat on this for months before they had to let the cat out of the bag and its left everyone behind the game in dealing with it.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,611
Ring Of Steel said:
Funny how 3 years ago they cheered when rejecting a pay rise for nurses, then last year they told the NHS there was no magic money tree, and yet now that they’re in the shit up to their necks they miraculously have £13bn to fiddle around with.
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Yeah if people were actually genuine about showing gratitude to the NHS they wouldn’t go and vote for the party that openly cheered as nurses were rejected a payrise.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,612
eastwoodsdustman said:
Well West Midlands Police sent about 10 cars and their helicopter to Walsgrave hospital tonight so a few bangers isn't going to win it.
A very Nice use of resources. Anyone got an idea on how much it costs to get the helicoptor in the air?
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Really?? What the fuck.

The NHS staff don't want people clapping to make themselves feel better or get likes on social media they want PPE and testing. They want to not need food banks.

Its so pretentious.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,613
eastwoodsdustman said:
A bit like China? They have so much to answer for. They've sat on this for months before they had to let the cat out of the bag and its left everyone behind the game in dealing with it.
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It seems that their prime minister has been taking lessons from North Korea and as soon as he got involved it miraculously started to suddenly go down.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,614
Spain it seems unlike Italy uk and France reported care home deaths which is why they are “higher”
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,615
Sick Boy said:
It seems that their prime minister has been taking lessons from North Korea and as soon as he got involved it miraculously started to suddenly go down.
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They're always so insular when it suits them and they need to learn that they can't get away with it. If they want the openness with travel and trade then they really need to toe the line with their less reasonable behaviour at home. The pandemic could have been controlled and monitored so much better by the rest of the world had they let everyone know, but no, they decide to go all 1950's communist state again and it fucks everyone over.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,616
Sick Boy said:
The way deaths are reported is inconsistent everywhere it seems which doesn’t give a clear picture of what’s going on.
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I would tentatively suggest that the only thing anyone can say for sure is that the actual figures- whether it be cases, deaths or recoveries- are significantly larger than the reported numbers.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,617
eastwoodsdustman said:
Well West Midlands Police sent about 10 cars and their helicopter to Walsgrave hospital tonight so a few bangers isn't going to win it.
A very Nice use of resources. Anyone got an idea on how much it costs to get the helicoptor in the air?
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The trust tweeted it? I thought wasps must have been up.the hospital
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,618
Colin Steins Smile said:
We've only lost 3 games all season - even the most myopic football fan would have to admit we are the best team in this league.
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too many draws
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,619
eastwoodsdustman said:
A bit like China? They have so much to answer for. They've sat on this for months before they had to let the cat out of the bag and its left everyone behind the game in dealing with it.
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It was a bat mate, not a cat
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 2, 2020
  • #11,620
Only way it might end with China is if the world decides to help Africa out by moving a lot of labour intensity production there. Althouogh that is a bit out of the frying pan into the fire. Most African regimes are renowned for their openness and democracy.
 
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