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clint van damme

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,361
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Coronavirus: Govt set to release 'contact tracking' app which detects nearby virus carriers
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why don't they concentrate on hitting the targets set for testing people rather than fucking about with apps that track people after a lock down which no one currently knows will end. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,362
clint van damme said:
why don't they concentrate on hitting the targets set for testing people rather than fucking about with apps that track people after a lock down which no one currently knows will end. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.
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Because depressingly people seem to fall and defend their bullshit.
 
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ccfcricoh

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,363
clint van damme said:
why don't they concentrate on hitting the targets set for testing people rather than fucking about with apps that track people after a lock down which no one currently knows will end. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.
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I get the sentiment but i highly doubt the bloke sat developing an app is the same one frantically building testing kits
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,364
ccfcricoh said:
I get the sentiment but i highly doubt the bloke sat developing an app is the same one frantically building testing kits
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No, but they'll they'll be a cost involved in developing it and rolling it out. Use it to get more testing done!
This app will be next to useless anyway if we don't get a decent number of the population tested. They'll be about 300 people in the database!
 
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ccfcricoh

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,365
clint van damme said:
No, but they'll they'll be a cost involved in developing it and rolling it out. Use it to get more testing done!
This app will be next to useless anyway if we don't get a decent number of the population tested. They'll be about 300 people in the database!
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Appreciate that - although i dont think money is necessarily the constraint in number of tests either, although i may be incorrect. I thought it was more logistics of not having enough
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,366
CCFCSteve said:
Scary but not a surprise unfortunately, especially with lower numbers over the last couple of days. Just got to hope this doesn’t start to increase exponentially (day on day).
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Was hoping it would drop agsin it’s near enough doubled.

21 year old died no health conditions in the uk
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,367
clint van damme said:
why don't they concentrate on hitting the targets set for testing people rather than fucking about with apps that track people after a lock down which no one currently knows will end. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.
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Because we’ve got members of the cabinet who own companies that make soft ware and apps.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,368
skybluesam66 said:
I think the 393 includes a catch up from those who died outside of hospital previously not reported
Even so - if we are going to be around 25k deaths, and we are at the peak in around 2 weeks, that number will probably double by then
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Doubling every 2.8 days or so. Two weeks time it’ll be four or eight times that on this trend (though hopefully the trend doesn’t continue as we hit the lockdown effect period)
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,369
shmmeee said:
Doubling every 2.8 days or so. Two weeks time it’ll be four or eight times that on this trend (though hopefully the trend doesn’t continue as we hit the lockdown effect period)
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Let’s hope this lockdown has worked then as That’s when we will see if it has.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,370
skybluesam66 said:
I think the 393 includes a catch up from those who died outside of hospital previously not reported
Even so - if we are going to be around 25k deaths, and we are at the peak in around 2 weeks, that number will probably double by then
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All died in hospital according to the NHS. This is just us returning to trend after the weekend I reckon.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,371
cc84cov said:
Was hoping it would drop agsin it’s near enough doubled.

21 year old died no health conditions in the uk
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it’s fairly obvious that most countries of similar populations in Europe will ultimately end up with similar death rates it’s just how the virus can be managed within health system limits - there’s no actual cure and a predictable and consistent infection rate. It’s not just going to vanish
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,372
shmmeee said:
All died in hospital according to the NHS. This is just us returning to trend after the weekend I reckon.
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How do you see it going ?
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,373
Grendel said:
it’s fairly obvious that most countries of similar populations in Europe will ultimately end up with similar death rates it’s just how the virus can be managed within health system limits - there’s no actual cure and a predictable and consistent infection rate. It’s not just going to vanish
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I think I was just hoping we would stay stable mate
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,374
cc84cov said:
Was hoping it would drop agsin it’s near enough doubled.

21 year old died no health conditions in the uk
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We all were mate but realistically it’s unlikely to consistently drop for (I’m guessing) a couple of weeks as there will be a lag between the social distancing measures impacting the number of cases and in turn the number of deaths. All we can hope for in the meantime is for numbers to not get totally out of control (ie that type of percentage jump every day)
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,375
clint van damme said:
why don't they concentrate on hitting the targets set for testing people rather than fucking about with apps that track people after a lock down which no one currently knows will end. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.
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What app? It isn't another Hancock idea is it? The bloke is obsessed with apps
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,376
cc84cov said:
How do you see it going ?
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God knows. I’m generally looking to Italy to see how they’re getting on and it doesn’t look good (have we had their numbers today?).

I’m really hoping we see a slowdown after this week that suggests social distancing is working.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,377
fernandopartridge said:
What app? It isn't another Hancock idea is it? The bloke is obsessed with apps
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I’m telling you!
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,378
fernandopartridge said:
What app? It isn't another Hancock idea is it? The bloke is obsessed with apps
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Can’t get him off tinder and bumble apparently
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,379
shmmeee said:
God knows. I’m generally looking to Italy to see how they’re getting on and it doesn’t look good (have we had their numbers today?).

I’m really hoping we see a slowdown after this week that suggests social distancing is working.
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Italy not out yet mate
 
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Jcap

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,380
ccfcricoh said:
Appreciate that - although i dont think money is necessarily the constraint in number of tests either, although i may be incorrect. I thought it was more logistics of not having enough
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The app is already in use in other countries, including here in Singapore. It works by recording via bluetooth any contacts within 2m (or 5m if over a period of 30mins), but doesn't release that data unless someone develops symptoms. If the person who develops symptoms has the app, the authorities can download the data and instantly trace and track anyone that person has come into contact with (who also had the app). Not foolproof but its a useful tool to help identify people who may have the virus, alongside the police, health ministry special teams etc who are all working to track down potential virus carriers. I've also been getting calls every day from the ministry of health here since I arrived back from the US - even though I didn't have a stay at home notice, I was identified as someone coming in from a high risk country, and they are following every single person up that has flown into Singapore. Kind of puts the UK effort into perspective, though admittedly it's much easier with only 5,5m population vs UKs 65m+.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,381
CCFCSteve said:
Can’t get him off tinder and bumble apparently
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We all know he's a bumbling idiot.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,382
shmmeee said:
God knows. I’m generally looking to Italy to see how they’re getting on and it doesn’t look good (have we had their numbers today?).

I’m really hoping we see a slowdown after this week that suggests social distancing is working.
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Italy doing well in the last 4 days, nervously waiting for their numbers today
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,383
shmmeee said:
God knows. I’m generally looking to Italy to see how they’re getting on and it doesn’t look good (have we had their numbers today?).

I’m really hoping we see a slowdown after this week that suggests social distancing is working.
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Agree shmmeee, stabilising/slowing the confirmed cases (which let’s be honest are hospitalised cases over here) over the next week or two has got to be the hope
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,384
fernandopartridge said:
What app? It isn't another Hancock idea is it? The bloke is obsessed with apps
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tracks people suffering from the virus apparently so your mobile can tell you if there's a suffer near. It's the 21st century equivalent of ring a plague bell.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,385
shmmeee said:
God knows. I’m generally looking to Italy to see how they’re getting on and it doesn’t look good (have we had their numbers today?).

I’m really hoping we see a slowdown after this week that suggests social distancing is working.
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Announced at 18:00 here, will post them up.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,386
cc84cov said:
Was hoping it would drop agsin it’s near enough doubled.

21 year old died no health conditions in the uk
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If you mean Chloe Middleton she died of a heart attack and was never tested for the coronavirus
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,387
CCFCSteve said:
Scary but not a surprise unfortunately, especially with lower numbers over the last couple of days. Just got to hope this doesn’t start to increase exponentially (day on day).
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Yeah people need to look at trends not individual numbers
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,388
shmmeee said:
All died in hospital according to the NHS. This is just us returning to trend after the weekend I reckon.
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The guy on the bbc said yesterday that the last 2 weekends have given hope only to be dashed the following Tuesday, looks the same this week, seems to be a lag on weekend figures
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,389
clint van damme said:
tracks people suffering from the virus apparently so your mobile can tell you if there's a suffer near. It's the 21st century equivalent of ring a plague bell.
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What a load of shite
 

Tommo1993

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,390
Hope they didn’t spend a lot on this app.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,391
Johnnythespider said:
The guy on the bbc said yesterday that the last 2 weekends have given hope only to be dashed the following Tuesday, looks the same this week, seems to be a lag on weekend figures
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The bbc do like to paint everything as a worst case scenario. As I said we have to look at trends.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,392
So every Tuesday is also the weekends figures? Is that why its such a sharp rise?
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,393
David O'Day said:
If you mean Chloe Middleton she died of a heart attack and was never tested for the coronavirus
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No this is a new case in the last 24 hours mate
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,394
Johnnythespider said:
The guy on the bbc said yesterday that the last 2 weekends have given hope only to be dashed the following Tuesday, looks the same this week, seems to be a lag on weekend figures
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That’s my working theory.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,395
SkyBlueDom26 said:
So every Tuesday is also the weekends figures? Is that why its such a sharp rise?
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Figures are up to 5pm the day before. So this is Sun 5 - Mon 5 today. Monday is Sat-Sun and so on.

The theory I have, though aware those better in the know like @MalcSB disagree, is that for various reasons numbers are lower at the weekend. Which is quite normal in a lot of datasets.
 
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