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RegTheDonk

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,116
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Seems like Patrick was really encouraged by how we as a country are sticking to the rules in the lockdown and that they could already be starting to work! That was a seemingly optimistic update tonight and I think we could see a very low amount of deaths/cases compared to other countries, fingers crossed!
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After the rucks emptying the shop shelves and the mass lets have a picnic or a fucking bbq in the entry, it's quite heartening. I see people out but generally they're keeping their distance, queueing correctly.

Like a few of our fans who want to cause trouble, they'll be a few nobs who may end up spoiling it for everyone else. I hope not as a total lock down will lead to a lot more depression, DV, social unrest etc.
 
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Astute

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,117
Grendel said:
If everyone had your attitude there wouldn’t even be a motor industry
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So I am wrong for not wasting money?

France is a totally different place. Their number plates don't say how old or new the car is. They don't go into debt constantly to have a new car. Old cars hold their value as there isn't an over supply of used cars. The wife's car now has French plates. It is now worth about 5k in France. The same 1.8k I paid would only get you an old banger there.

So you think it is good that millions of people constantly struggle to buy new things that are mainly imported here? We have a strange mentality in the UK.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,118
Grendel said:
If everyone had your view on life we may as well live in North Korea.
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Why? What you're suggesting is the mindset of the TOWIE/Kardashian lot and the social media whores and influencers. Let's all have a society built around that - what a utopia it would be!

If some fame whore pays a fortune to get her lips plumped and boobs enhanced has she made herself 'better'? She thinks she has. Normal people just think she's vain and cares far too much about what others think of her.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,119
David O'Day said:
Wouldn't that also include st cross and George eliot?
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St Cross is the same Trust but GE isn't
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,120
Astute said:
So I am wrong for not wasting money?

France is a totally different place. Their number plates don't say how old or new the car is. They don't go into debt constantly to have a new car. Old cars hold their value as there isn't an over supply of used cars. The wife's car now has French plates. It is now worth about 5k in France. The same 1.8k I paid would only get you an old banger there.

So you think it is good that millions of people constantly struggle to buy new things that are mainly imported here? We have a strange mentality in the UK.
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Tbe uk and France registered pretty much the same number of new cars in 2019 - just because your wife is in France doesn’t make you dine kind of expert - soon you’ll be doing Macrons briefings for him
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,121
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Why? What you're suggesting is the mindset of the TOWIE/Kardashian lot and the social media whores and influencers. Let's all have a society built around that - what a utopia it would be!

If some fame whore pays a fortune to get her lips plumped and boobs enhanced has she made herself 'better'? She thinks she has. Normal people just think she's vain and cares far too much about what others think of her.
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You’d be one of those who’d win £10 million on the lottery and stay in the same terraced house all your life
 

Astute

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,122
Grendel said:
No but oddly some people aspire to better themselves in terms of status when they go up the ladder - either amount is hardly huge
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Not huge to you maybe. But surprisingly enough it isn't about you.

We keep seeing about average wage. Most people are on much less than the average wage. Then how many that are lucky to be in a decent wage suddenly think they are middle class si think they have to spend like they are.

Work to live is much better than live to work.

A fair few at work have over the years taken the piss out if me driving older cars. They say about their cars. But most don't belong to them. They rent them. Costs at least as much to rent a new car for a year as much as I pay for mine. But they don't take the piss now. I am retiring at 55. I spend a quarter of my time in France. They can't afford to retire because of debt. But people like yourself make out debt is good. We should use debt to keep motor manufacturers very profitable.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,123
Number 10 telling the dibble to wind their necks in
 
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Astute

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,124
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Never liked the term 'better' themselves in terms of spending money to keep up with the Jones or trying to make other people as vacuous as themselves envious.

For me 'bettering' yourself is via learning, reading etc or contributing back more to society. Not buying a new car or kitchen to show off
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Well said.

Seen too many people do so then have everything come crashing down when they lose their income. Through loss of health is the worse.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,125
Astute said:
Not huge to you maybe. But surprisingly enough it isn't about you.

We keep seeing about average wage. Most people are on much less than the average wage. Then how many that are lucky to be in a decent wage suddenly think they are middle class si think they have to spend like they are.

Work to live is much better than live to work.

A fair few at work have over the years taken the piss out if me driving older cars. They say about their cars. But most don't belong to them. They rent them. Costs at least as much to rent a new car for a year as much as I pay for mine. But they don't take the piss now. I am retiring at 55. I spend a quarter of my time in France. They can't afford to retire because of debt. But people like yourself make out debt is good. We should use debt to keep motor manufacturers very profitable.
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I think the whole universe knows your family lines in France

Is there no personal debt in France? A debt free utopia wow
 

Astute

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,126
Grendel said:
So you’ve never upgraded your house?
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What you should ask is have you ever over extended yourself on a mortgage?
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,127
Grendel said:
I think the whole universe knows your family lines in France

Is there no personal debt in France? A debt free utopia wow
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I thought astute was the president of France
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,128
Astute said:
What you should ask is have you ever over extended yourself on a mortgage?
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Not really - do you live in a mud hut or something? Your becoming.a poor mans Billy Bragg (very ooor mans as he’s very rich)
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,129
David O'Day said:
I thought astute was the president of France
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Astute is macrons bodyguard - nudge nudge
 

Astute

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,130
Grendel said:
Tbe uk and France registered pretty much the same number of new cars in 2019 - just because your wife is in France doesn’t make you dine kind of expert - soon you’ll be doing Macrons briefings for him
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We sold more in the UK last year. But that still isn't the full story.

Our sales have been going down. Last year was the best year since 2010 in France.
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,131
What a surprise, Ashley's Newcastle the first PL club to make out they can't afford to pay non-playing staff's wages.
Newcastle United put non-playing staff on leave because of coronavirus pandemic
 
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Astute

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,132
Grendel said:
I think the whole universe knows your family lines in France

Is there no personal debt in France? A debt free utopia wow
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Amount owed is less in France. But point out where I compared it in the slightest.

Making up bullshit yet again I see.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,133
Grendel said:
Not really - do you live in a mud hut or something? Your becoming.a poor mans Billy Bragg (very ooor mans as he’s very rich)
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I live in a decent house. Why do I need the best house just to make you happy?

Am mortgage free. Should I take out a 250k mortgage to get the best house in the whole area? Nothing to prove to anyone. Happy where I live. Material things mean nothing to me. Wouldn't want to be surrounded by people like yourself who make out they are better than everyone else.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,134
The whole idea of “bettering yourself” assumes you can grade and rank people. Which is certifiably insane.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,135
Grendel said:
You’d be one of those who’d win £10 million on the lottery and stay in the same terraced house all your life
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As I said above in a money no object world I'd love to design my own house. I'd buy a new(er) car but not some flash sports thing. Take a few more holidays. But I'd mostly enjoy spending it on my family, letting them do things they'd always wanted to as treats.
 
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ccfc1234

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,136
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I'll give you a clue - they're not telling the truth.
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I have no doubt that China are hugely down playing their numbers, but by a factor of what? Is their media blackout, in by far and away the most global cosmopolitan city in China able to suppress 1000s of deaths? Not to mention the many more thousands of cases that would be going on as well.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,137
ccfc1234 said:
I have no doubt that China are hugely down playing their numbers, but by a factor of what? Is their media blackout, in by far and away the most global cosmopolitan city in China able to suppress 1000s of deaths? Not to mention the many more thousands of cases that would be going on as well.
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People in Wuhan think there were nearly 50,000 deaths in that city alone
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,138
Astute said:
So I am wrong for not wasting money?

France is a totally different place. Their number plates don't say how old or new the car is. They don't go into debt constantly to have a new car. Old cars hold their value as there isn't an over supply of used cars. The wife's car now has French plates. It is now worth about 5k in France. The same 1.8k I paid would only get you an old banger there.

So you think it is good that millions of people constantly struggle to buy new things that are mainly imported here? We have a strange mentality in the UK.
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That’s before you even mention that a used car is a green car as the carbon footprint is a fraction of that of a new car. If everyone purchased only new cars CO2 emissions from the manufacturing process would see colossal increases, 25% of all scrapped cars go to landfill so if every used car was scrapped instead of being passed on that would be horrendously wasteful. You keep doing what you’re doing and bettering the environment in the process. Much more important than massaging your ego under the guise that you’re bettering yourself.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,139
skybluesam66 said:
we also have man utd who would not be in the champions league if they repeated this season, but as it stands have a chance
Leeds/Leicester are 2 other big teams who would want to play on
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Don't forget Sunderland still have a slim chance of playoffs
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,140
Astute said:
We sold more in the UK last year. But that still isn't the full story.

Our sales have been going down. Last year was the best year since 2010 in France.
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So people are buying new cars - what with? Cash?
 

Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,141
Ring Of Steel said:
I'm sent home, office closed- I've never really worked from home before and I'm not sure how the hell this will pan out
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Same old thing. You just get to do it in pajamas
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,142
David O'Day said:
Number 10 telling the dibble to wind their necks in
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Good. It amazes me how comfortable people are with the old bill conferring powers on themselves.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,143
Astute said:
I live in a decent house. Why do I need the best house just to make you happy?

Am mortgage free. Should I take out a 250k mortgage to get the best house in the whole area? Nothing to prove to anyone. Happy where I live. Material things mean nothing to me. Wouldn't want to be surrounded by people like yourself who make out they are better than everyone else.
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It’s you who keeps bragging about retirement and an idyllic life in France not me
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,144
fernandopartridge said:
Good. It amazes me how comfortable people are with the old bill conferring powers on themselves.
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The old bill were trying to stop local shops selling Easter eggs
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,145
fernandopartridge said:
Good. It amazes me how comfortable people are with the old bill conferring powers on themselves.
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I know. Shameful and typical - let’s fine two people in the Peak District to justify our existence - someone rang in on a phone in and said they were walking their dog and some bloke was breaking into cars in front of them. She said if she’d called 999 and said there was a car burglar running rampage they’d say they were told busy but if she’d said they were on their second exercise of the day a full patrol would be on the scene in two seconds
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,146
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Only when the thing I'm replacing is shagged out.
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Isn't that what divorce is for?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,147
chiefdave said:
What a surprise, Ashley's Newcastle the first PL club to make out they can't afford to pay non-playing staff's wages.
Newcastle United put non-playing staff on leave because of coronavirus pandemic
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If only they'd let sports direct carry on selling those shite lonsdale tracksuits cunrs like
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,148
David O'Day said:
Bettering yourself is still a strange term for it.

Also there us a direct correlation between more expensive property and bigger knobheads as neighbours
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And vice-versa
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,149
Grendel said:
I know. Shameful and typical - let’s fine two people in the Peak District to justify our existence - someone rang in on a phone in and said they were walking their dog and some bloke was breaking into cars in front of them. She said if she’d called 999 and said there was a car burglar running rampage they’d say they were told busy but if she’d said they were on their second exercise of the day a full patrol would be on the scene in two seconds
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Worst bit is they to gave forgotten they can only police the law and verbal guidance is not the law. They can only stick to the bill as passed on Thursday
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2020
  • #10,150
The coventrian said:
We bought this as an investment. Bought it cheap as it needed a lot of work. We will be downsizing next year probably. We've got a considerable amount of equity in this as the house we had before we bought as a repo,done it up and sold it for a big profit. Fingers crossed when we sell we'll be mortgage free. Dont wanna sound like a snob as I really am not but having a detached place at the moment theres no way I'd go back to a semi. With what's going on at the moment is a wake up call as well. I wanna be mortgage free and lose that big expense each month.
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You could probably "better yourself" by not using words like "Wanna"
 
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