A few people above have defended the animal cruelty as 'part of their culture'. If that is indeed part of their culture, then yes our culture and many others are superior. I make no apologies for having that opinion regardless of how uncomfortable it seems to make some of you feel.I’m happy to criticise them, just not overly keen on the whole Cultural Supremacy stuff, that’s all.
It’s a guardian article. Interesting it suggests France are lying about the amount if deaths
Apparently the Russian military are here enforcing the lockdown, no one has seen them yet though.The article states that Germany has taken patients from France today to help them and a German military plane landed in Italy yesterday to do the same. What’s your point on unity exactly? Because there seems to be a fair bit.
And infection rates. Given that Korea has proven beyond a shadow of doubt that the best way to contain the virus is test test test to identify those that have it we’re very reluctant to entertain the idea. If I was being sceptical I’d say that the government are doing it deliberately to manipulate the figures, although it’s not like we can say that they’re sitting on information like the number of cases that are critical to back up that scepticism. Oh, wait...Everyone is Lying about death numbers etc 100%
As for EU unity and better management of the crises - well....
Spain's daily death toll rises again while Italy expects peak in a week
It doesn’t suggest France are lying about deaths it says they don’t include care home deaths. If that’s their methodology and known then it seems to be the opposite of lying?
Maybe you shouldn’t be criticising European countries for the way they’ve handled the crises. Seeing as you’ll allow no criticism of our government and that you ridiculed those countries for going into lockdown last week when we followed days later.
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Regardless of what happens Brexit will most certainly be delayed.Defi itely could put some strain.on the EU which is good for us. Probably a bit cynical to be looking at it in those terms.
If this has already been mentioned then I apologise for a repost but this thread moves fast.
I see the crazy fuck of the year award has gone beyond Trump to another candidate, the president of Brazil Jair Bolsonaro.
A lovely piece of work here who has prioritised the economy over the welfare of a proportion of the population.
Brazil's Bolsonaro in denial and out on a limb
Most people don’t give a shit about battery and intensive farming for meat in Europe, which is definitely cruel. There are also those within the current government who would repeal the ban on fox hunting tomorrow.A few people above have defended the animal cruelty as 'part of their culture'. If that is indeed part of their culture, then yes our culture and many others are superior. I make no apologies for having that opinion regardless of how uncomfortable it seems to make some of you feel.
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If this has already been mentioned then I apologise for a repost but this thread moves fast.
I see the crazy fuck of the year award has gone beyond Trump to another candidate, the president of Brazil Jair Bolsonaro.
A lovely piece of work here who has prioritised the economy over the welfare of a proportion of the population.
Brazil's Bolsonaro in denial and out on a limb
Regardless of what happens Brexit will most certainly be delayed.
Regardless of what happens Brexit will most certainly be delayed.
I do, it's wrong. All farm animals should be free range. Not that I can do much other than sign petitions, but at least I do that.Most people don’t give a shit about battery and intensive farming for meat in Europe, which is definitely cruel. There are also those within the current government who would repeal the ban on fox hunting tomorrow.
They know we’re soft mate we don’t have the numbers to make a differenceyou know you’re right. China, U.K., EU, USA- I’m not convinced any of these bodies are renowned for their absolute truthfulness. So people need to get down out of their ivory towers and when this is over start to demand serious changes to how we all live our lives.
I do, it's wrong. All farm animals should be free range. Not that I can do much other than sign petitions, but at least I do that.
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I do, it's wrong. All farm animals should be free range. Not that I can do much other than sign petitions, but at least I do that.
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No it will be a race straight back into the feeding frenzy.They know we’re soft mate we don’t have the numbers to make a difference
I can't either. But I do want animals to be well treated in life. Is that controversial?Or stop eating meat!
I've cut down massively but totally abstaining? Not sure I can do it!
Of course there was also the email of national importance that was “accidentally” overlooked offering the U.K. assistance in the purchasing of ventilators. Not even official members of the EU anymore and they’re still showing unity to us.Apparently the Russian military are here enforcing the lockdown, no one has seen them yet though.
Or stop eating meat!
I've cut down massively but totally abstaining? Not sure I can do it!
I refuse to eat it. But I’m not at all comfortable telling other people what to eat.. but I will say that the world would be a better place if consumption of meat was a bit less off the charts than it is now.
Salvini and another fascist have been going on about it in recent days to get themselves in the media. In reality he has had to drop it as part of his manifesto as he admitted its a vote loser, he is always desperate to be in the limelight. It’s not going to happen.Seen some stuff on Twitter about Italian discontent with the EU
Is that just social media bollocks mate?
I can't either. But I do want animals to be well treated in life. Is that controversial?
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No it will be a race straight back into the feeding frenzy.
This is it, consumption levels of meat are ridiculous and way above what’s necessary because it’s historically linked to being wealthy.
Like Clint says below, it’s difficult to abstain but just cut down. If everyone reduced their meat consumption to about a third the environment would be a lot easier to manage and we’d all have some spare cash and likely better health.
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Distraction from their own failings?Salvini and another fascist have been going on about it in recent days to get themselves in the media. In reality he has had to drop it as part of his manifesto as he admitted its a vote loser, he is always desperate to be in the limelight. It’s not going to happen.
It's cheap food at all costs.I do, it's wrong. All farm animals should be free range. Not that I can do much other than sign petitions, but at least I do that.
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Biggest thread since we won the second divisionHang around for post 10000 and beyond.
Crispin Odey (google him) has already made many millions from shorting the market in the last couple of weeks, in a new macabre variation of his well trodden disaster capitalism philosophies.
It's cheap food at all costs.
Maybe if the Economists didn't drive everyone to overpay for the roof over their heads food production could more humane .
Another Thatcher driven ideology fueling gross speculation on a human necessity.
Is he the guy who’s Ferage’s mate that made millions betting against the pound while Ferage was telling the world that remain had won when he already knew a lot of the exit polls were suggesting otherwise?Crispin Odey (google him) has already made many millions from shorting the market in the last couple of weeks, in a new macabre variation of his well trodden disaster capitalism philosophies.
Why do people have to lie about what the government says or advisors say? Dr Harries clarified what she said, that the 3 to 6 month period would be when they know how much effect the restriction measures would gave.
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