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clint van damme

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,436
Astute said:
That only stops every 2 stations?
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Perhaps they mix it up. Can't remember what country it was but fairly sure it was in Europe
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,437
6 deaths Scotland
3 deaths Wales

so far today nothing on England yet

Predictions anyone ? I think another drop today
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,438
Saw that the reporting parameters in England were changed yesterday, hence only the lower number of deaths. Even with something as grave as this they're manipulating information. Piss fucking poor. It has been suggested on Twitter that England won't even report the number of deaths in the last 24 hours today.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,439
fernandopartridge said:
Saw that the reporting parameters in England were changed yesterday, hence only the lower number of deaths. Even with something as grave as this they're manipulating information. Piss fucking poor. It has been suggested on Twitter that England won't even report the number of deaths in the last 24 hours today.
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What does that mean?
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,440
fernandopartridge said:
Saw that the reporting parameters in England were changed yesterday, hence only the lower number of deaths. Even with something as grave as this they're manipulating information. Piss fucking poor. It has been suggested on Twitter that England won't even report the number of deaths in the last 24 hours today.
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I've been wondering how long it would be before the govt started lying about the figures.
 

mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,441
fernandopartridge said:
Saw that the reporting parameters in England were changed yesterday, hence only the lower number of deaths. Even with something as grave as this they're manipulating information. Piss fucking poor. It has been suggested on Twitter that England won't even report the number of deaths in the last 24 hours today.
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Where have you seen that mate? If it's true thats shocking
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,442
mr_monkey said:
Where have you seen that mate? If it's true thats shocking
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I don't see anything about it online at this point
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,443
Ring Of Steel said:
I don't see anything about it online at this point
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This might be it

They are pathological liars. But no doubt the same old crew will justify it.

 
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mr_monkey

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,444
Ring Of Steel said:
This might be it

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If it was true you would imagine shit rags like the mail would be shouting about it not just a random anti media Twitter account
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,445
mr_monkey said:
If it was true you would imagine shit rags like the mail would be shouting about it not just a random anti media Twitter account
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the clip is the BBC

and upon further investigation this is widely known now. You have to filter out some of the blatantly anti-Tory stuff but yes, its true, doctors are saying it as well.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,446
Sky Blue Pete said:
What does that mean?
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Yesterday they changed the cut off time from 1pm to 7.30am, meaning that if anybody died in the 5.5 hours between then they weren't counted. It'll be interesting to see the next set of figures, they should be reported as 07.30 to 07.30 this morning.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,447
While on a twitter excursion- what a shock, more lying.

Those tests that we were all told would be in Boots?

Coronavirus test confusion as No 10 admits it has no idea if they work | Daily Mail Online

  • A PHE official yesterday said home-testing kits could be available within days
  • But two firms at forefront of manufacturing them say they've still not had orders
  • Scientists claim the process to prove the tests work could take a 'few weeks'
  • Officials have still yet to reveal who is manufacturing the antibody testing kits
 

Spurs 'City Away Kit' Kit

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,448
mr_monkey said:
If it was true you would imagine shit rags like the mail would be shouting about it not just a random anti media Twitter account
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Also, would the issue discussed really make a difference to the figures. I can't imagine any relatives or next-of-kin saying they wouldn't want their loved ones death to be recorded in the figures. It's not as if they are asking to publish their names!!
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,449
And yet more bullshit

 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,450
I'm pretty sure that excuse is utter utter bullshit as well. The families do not need to consent to somebody being counted for the purpose of statistics.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,451
fernandopartridge said:
I'm pretty sure that excuse is utter utter bullshit as well. The families do not need to consent to somebody being counted for the purpose of statistics.
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Of course they don't. And in typical fashion, it deflects away from them onto someone else, in this case the families of people who have died. Classy as always.
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,452
Flying Fokker said:
The same can also be said for some of our diverse groups in Coventry. If nothing else I now realise a lot of people don’t know what 2 metres is. Interesting that the Dutch are advised to stay 1.5 metres away from each other.
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The Dutch tend not to have bad breath
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,453
Ring Of Steel said:
And yet more bullshit

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So essentially nobody has any idea about these tests, which now appears to be just more bullshit, but what we do know is that Lord Dyson received a huge order for prototype ventilators, which will need to pass the medical testing first and which will then take another few weeks to be brought into mass production. Meanwhile we are told that there is a 'tsunami' of acute ICU cases heading this way in a couple of weeks.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,454
cc84cov said:
6 deaths Scotland
3 deaths Wales

so far today nothing on England yet

Predictions anyone ? I think another drop today
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Depends if they roll in the missed hours from yesterday. Doubt it’ll go down from such a short period yesterday.

Optimistic: 60ish
Gut: 80+
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,455
fernandopartridge said:
I'm pretty sure that excuse is utter utter bullshit as well. The families do not need to consent to somebody being counted for the purpose of statistics.
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you'd never get accurate data on anything if you needed families permission.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,456
fernandopartridge said:
Saw that the reporting parameters in England were changed yesterday, hence only the lower number of deaths. Even with something as grave as this they're manipulating information. Piss fucking poor. It has been suggested on Twitter that England won't even report the number of deaths in the last 24 hours today.
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Adds up with the footnote on yesterday’s data saying it wasn’t a full 24 hours.

Fucking ridiculous TBH. We’re all sat here wondering when we can get on with life and the government aren’t giving us the one stat that might tell us that.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,457
fernandopartridge said:
I'm pretty sure that excuse is utter utter bullshit as well. The families do not need to consent to somebody being counted for the purpose of statistics.
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Makes no sense at all. There’s no PII in a fucking total.
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,458


Doesn’t look good for the US at all.


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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,459
djr8369 said:


Doesn’t look good for the US at all.


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djr8369

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,460
Ring Of Steel said:
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They’re in so much trouble


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Otis

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,461
Ring Of Steel said:
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,462
shmmeee said:
Adds up with the footnote on yesterday’s data saying it wasn’t a full 24 hours.

Fucking ridiculous TBH. We’re all sat here wondering when we can get on with life and the government aren’t giving us the one stat that might tell us that.
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So essentially a big chunk of mortalities will never be reported. Some will have no family, I highly doubt they have a guy going round getting consent from families, and sometimes the question will just never be asked. None of those will be counted. Yesterday's figures felt wrong at the time, now we know why. We're even taking a "scientific" approach to counting deaths.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,463
Ring Of Steel said:
So essentially a big chunk of mortalities will never be reported. Some will have no family, I highly doubt they have a guy going round getting consent from families, and sometimes the question will just never be asked. None of those will be counted. Yesterday's figures felt wrong at the time, now we know why. We're even taking a "scientific" approach to counting deaths.
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Great that we’re up there with transparent liberal democracies like China and Iran.

I honestly have trouble believing this. Really hoping it’s confusion about the cutoff change and we’ll get proper numbers today.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,464
They don’t ask for permission to record the numbers of deaths. If the times for collection of the stats has changed, there will be a one off blip and then it will proceed as normal.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,465
MalcSB said:
They don’t ask for permission to record the numbers of deaths. If the times for collection of the stats has changed, there will be a one off blip and then it will proceed as normal.
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Also for those that get excited/depressed about single numbers, that’ll likely mean a big spike today as it will cover 29.5 hours instead of 24.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,466
shmmeee said:
Also for those that get excited/depressed about single numbers, that’ll likely mean a big spike today as it will cover 29.5 hours instead of 24.
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Probably.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,467
clint van damme said:
I've actually given Boris some praise, though mixed in with criticism which I think is valid.
What I'm not letting go of is how under prepared we are and how 10 years of Tory government has left us more vulnerable than we should be in this situation.

People saying now isn't the time, well I'm sorry, now is deci itely the time,If for no other reason than to spur them into action.
We have 6 ICU beds per 100,000 to Germany's 29.
We have ICU staff without PPE or been asked to share PPE.
We have a shortage of ventilators even though the government were warned in 2016.

It's not good enough.
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PPE shortage in Germany and US too
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,468
David O'Day said:
Because they don't understand the actual value and practicalities of a gold reserve and no it wouldn't as we can get better value in selling gilts
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I’m not entirely convinced, but if you are right you have just destroyed the basic premise of my favourite Bond movie, Goldfinger.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,469
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Optimistic: 60ish
Gut: 80+[/QUOTE]
over 100 possibly 130 ish
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 26, 2020
  • #8,470
 
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