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cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,981
wingy said:
Who would send their kids away now on a spring camp for two to three weeks.
So as to all catch it and come home immune?
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Sounds like a suicide mission lol
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,982
Ring Of Steel said:
Yes I get that- and personally I think the Coronavirus vaccine is a no brainer, because without it the infection will never be controlled, I would think it would have to be compulsory.

But he is right though, there will be a lot of people that don't want it.

Just for the record for when people assume its me leading the anti-vaccination groups, I can state that at this point I would not refuse it

... but I do love a good conspiracy theory...
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If people refused an approved vaccine then there needs to be isolation units where they then need to be housed until the virus is cleared - however long that takes
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,983
cc84cov said:
Sounds like a suicide mission lol
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Not necessarily , assuming the science is accurate.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,984
Grendel said:
If people refused an approved vaccine then there needs to be isolation units where they then need to be housed until the virus is cleared - however long that takes
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Won’t happen mate our government is weak as piss
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,985
cc84cov said:
This won’t be rigorously tested though will it ? It’s gonna be rushed through without the years of testing ? I’m asthmatic so tbh I would be looking to take it my worry is where is the years of proven testing to say it’s safe,child vaccinations I’m 35 we had 12 compounds I believe it was back then now it’s 35-40 I think we are putting in.Wheh you get a moment google the ingredients in today’s child vaccines interesting read,
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If it's going to be provided to most of the global population then you can be sure it'll have gone through all stages of clinical testing. Advances in science mean we can get candidates sooner but the testing phases still take time.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,986
cc84cov said:
Won’t happen mate our government is weak as piss
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You think any country in the west other than a trump led one would invoke such restrictions
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,987
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If it's going to be provided to most of the global population then you can be sure it'll have gone through all stages of clinical testing. Advances in science mean we can get candidates sooner but the testing phases still take time.
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For the scientists amongst us- the test kits that are being talked about on the BBC, does it feel credible to have that rolled out so quickly?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,988
New test could be on Amazon and in boots in a matter of days, good news
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,989
Ring Of Steel said:
For the scientists amongst us- the test kits that are being talked about on the BBC, does it feel credible to have that rolled out so quickly?
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Seems very fast.

Surely once they have enough info they just take an existing test and modify it? The one I saw you have to send it away for results anyway
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,990
Nick said:
New test could be on Amazon and in boots in a matter of days, good news
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Great news we need to keep moving at this pace
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,991
Ring Of Steel said:
For the scientists amongst us- the test kits that are being talked about on the BBC, does it feel credible to have that rolled out so quickly?
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The type of test it involves is a standard one. The problem I foresee is people being asked to prick themselves and administer the sample though without seeing the kit I can't pass judgement.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,992
Nick said:
Seems very fast.

Surely once they have enough info they just take an existing test and modify it? The one I saw you have to send it away for results anyway
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Not certain .
Think I read would be like a blood sugar test .
Prick of the thumb, result in twenty minutes.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,993
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The type of test it involves is a standard one. The problem I foresee is people being asked to prick themselves and administer the sample though without seeing the kit I can't pass judgement.
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The benefit of this is massively psychological as well though.

The most frightening thing about this virus is its unpredictability, you might be feeling really well now but find yourself on a ventilator by this time tomorrow, its that lack of any certainty which is scary. I reckon this test might give an immediate shot in the arm to millions because at last they can see that they can do something and haven't got to just sit around wondering whether they'll be in intensive care in 12 hours.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,994
Ring Of Steel said:
The benefit of this is massively psychological as well though.

The most frightening thing about this virus is its unpredictability, you might be feeling really well now and on a ventilator tomorrow, its that lack of any certainty at all which is scary. I reckon this test might give an immediate shot in the arm to millions because at last they can see that they can do something and haven't got to just sit around wondering whether they'll be in intensive care in 12 hours.
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But then on the other hand the potential problem could be that people get a false sense of security and start taking silly risks again. As always, a bit of bloody common sense will be needed.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,995
wingy said:
Not certain .
Think I read would be like a blood sugar test .
Prick of the thumb, result in twenty minutes.
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That might have been the one in boots?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,996
Ring Of Steel said:
The benefit of this is massively psychological as well though.

The most frightening thing about this virus is its unpredictability, you might be feeling really well now and on a ventilator tomorrow, its that lack of any certainty at all which is scary. I reckon this test might give an immediate shot in the arm to millions because at last they can see that they can do something and haven't got to just sit around wondering whether they'll be in intensive care in 12 hours.
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It will also send the death rate down massively.
 
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Colin Steins Smile

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,997
The test is about 70% accurate, so it might be worth having a couple if you at first test negative to be sure.
This is what happened with Bolsinaro [Brazilian leader], he tested positive [which he didn't like], so he got a retest and was negative.
 

Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,998
cc84cov said:
They can’t bank on the vaccine huge numbers won’t take it
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They're indispensable
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,999
Colin Steins Smile said:
The test is about 70% accurate, so it might be worth having a couple if you at first test negative to be sure.
This is what happened with Bolsinaro [Brazilian leader], he tested positive [which he didn't like], so he got a retest and was negative.
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I would think they will have to limit purchases or people will be getting 4 or 5 to be sure
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,000
Ring Of Steel said:
I would think they will have to limit purchases or people will be getting 4 or 5 to be sure
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£££££££££££££££££
 
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Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,001
Nick said:
New test could be on Amazon and in boots in a matter of days, good news
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Except nobody will be able to go to Boots
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,002
I find it totally amazing, how every fucker and his dog, who as little as 1 month ago, were so convinced that Boris and Trump were absolutely full of shit, were untrustworthy, bullshitting scumbags etc, but now, would all of a sudden fall over themselves to get injected with some random cocktail of god knows what, at the leaders insistence, with next to zero clinical trials.

Do the trials, get the vaccine checked out, Ffs.
Remember thalidomide! Have we learnt nothing?
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,003
maybe a dumb question, but...

If you test positive but don't have symptoms, what happens then, does it just leave your system over time, or are you a carrier... forever or until vaccinated?
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,004
fatso said:
I find it totally amazing, how every fucker and his dog, who as little as 1 month ago, were so convinced that Boris and Trump were absolutely full of shit, were untrustworthy, bullshitting scumbags etc, but now, would all of a sudden fall over themselves to get injected with some random cocktail of god knows what, at the leaders insistence, with next to zero clinical trials.

Do the trials, get the vaccine checked out, Ffs.
Remember thalidomide! Have we learnt nothing?
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Luckily it will have absolutely zero to do with the pair of bastard's
You contrary fucker.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,005
Nick said:
Coronavirus UK: Are supermarkets the new superspreaders? | Daily Mail Online

Common sense from the start, surely?

Its gone from pubs to building sites now though.
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I've literally just had an email from Tesco which says to go and stop in the store rather than try and get a delivery or click & collect. They don't give a shit as long as they're making money.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,006
fatso said:
I find it totally amazing, how every fucker and his dog, who as little as 1 month ago, were so convinced that Boris and Trump were absolutely full of shit, were untrustworthy, bullshitting scumbags etc, but now, would all of a sudden fall over themselves to get injected with some random cocktail of god knows what, at the leaders insistence, with next to zero clinical trials.

Do the trials, get the vaccine checked out, Ffs.
Remember thalidomide! Have we learnt nothing?
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Spot on
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,007
cc84cov said:
This won’t be rigorously tested though will it ? It’s gonna be rushed through without the years of testing ? I’m asthmatic so tbh I would be looking to take it my worry is where is the years of proven testing to say it’s safe,child vaccinations I’m 35 we had 12 compounds I believe it was back then now it’s 35-40 I think we are putting in.Wheh you get a moment google the ingredients in today’s child vaccines interesting read,

7 compounds I had when I was born there is 72 now in new born babies
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Yes it will. There are tight regulations governing the release of drugs, it isn't just. OK, it's a cure is it? Away you go...
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,008
fatso said:
I find it totally amazing, how every fucker and his dog, who as little as 1 month ago, were so convinced that Boris and Trump were absolutely full of shit, were untrustworthy, bullshitting scumbags etc, but now, would all of a sudden fall over themselves to get injected with some random cocktail of god knows what, at the leaders insistence, with next to zero clinical trials.

Do the trials, get the vaccine checked out, Ffs.
Remember thalidomide! Have we learnt nothing?
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The drugs they are testing now are already in use for other things - malaria and so on
Some have been in use for decades so have been through all the tests
Completely new drugs will take 12/18 months
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,009
Nick said:
New test could be on Amazon and in boots in a matter of days, good news
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Is that the best distribution method? Or is it a case of if you can afford one you're ok but if you're skint tough?

Who keeps track of who has had a test if its order it yourself off Amazon. If you're allowing people out of lockdown are you just taking their word for it?
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,010
chiefdave said:
Is that the best distribution method? Or is it a case of if you can afford one you're ok but if you're skint tough?

Who keeps track of who has had a test if its order it yourself off Amazon. If you're allowing people out of lockdown are you just taking their word for it?
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Could do a weekly lottery style system, if your numbers come up you get to be tested for a lethal disease
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,011
Wow! New York has had 5,000 new cases in the last 24 hours.

That sounds totally out of control.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,012
Otis said:
Wow! New York has had 5,000 new cases in the last 24 hours.

That sounds totally out of control.
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Backs up what the governer was saying, before Trump basically fucked him off.

Whats New York- 20m or so? thats a massive increase
 

skyblueinBaku

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,013
SkyBlueDom26 said:
UK coronavirus mass home testing to be made available 'within days'
Coronavirus: 'Game changer' COVID-19 tests could be available in days, MPs told

This is fucking brilliant news!
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Get ready for more panic buying.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,014
Ring Of Steel said:
Backs up what the governer was saying, before Trump basically fucked him off.

Whats New York- 20m or so? thats a massive increase
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I find myself surprised continually that the East and West coast states don't do an amexit.
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,015
clint van damme said:
the lad had been waving the blade around for weeks. Pulled it on a lad I used to train with at the bulls head but he walked away.
Can't remember the name of the lad who did it now but he was a mate of a mate. Had turned in to a proper menace and the script played out how it was written.

Noel was in the year below me at school, knew him but not very well. A good few of my mates knew him pretty well.
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Whereabouts you from Clint? He grew up with some of the lads I knocked about with after school.
 
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