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cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,946
If these tests work it’s great work so quickly and needs to continue at that pace
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,947
Question: wouldn’t you still be able to spread it even if you’re immune? So wouldn’t that bring it to everyone uninflected quicker if all the others started moving about more? Anyone know?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,948
fernandopartridge said:
We've bought 3.5 million kits which we're now going to test to see if they work
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This like Independence Day- humanity fights back, I'd like everyone to now take a minute or so to play the National Anthem & stare meaningfully into the distance :emoji_muscle:
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,949
fernandopartridge said:
I read something though that suggested it's a bit like our immunity to the common cold / flu, we're never fully immune but should be sufficiently for a reasonable enough period to get over the peak
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Yeah should’ve said twice in quick succession. Even a vaccine might have to be a yearly thing.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,950
shmmeee said:
Yeah should’ve said twice in quick succession. Even a vaccine might have to be a yearly thing.
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They can’t bank on the vaccine huge numbers won’t take it
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,951
I wonder if they will do a special one for the inter breds from Leicester.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,952
cc84cov said:
They can’t bank on the vaccine huge numbers won’t take it
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You seem obsessed by this but literally every other vaccine says otherwise.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,953
shmmeee said:
You seem obsessed by this but literally every other vaccine says otherwise.
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I’m being real you know huge numbers won’t take it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,954
shmmeee said:
Question: wouldn’t you still be able to spread it even if you’re immune? So wouldn’t that bring it to everyone uninflected quicker if all the others started moving about more? Anyone know?
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If you have immunity to a disease and you're exposed to the pathogen you will eliminate it extremely quickly.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,955
shmmeee said:
Question: wouldn’t you still be able to spread it even if you’re immune? So wouldn’t that bring it to everyone uninflected quicker if all the others started moving about more? Anyone know?
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If you're immune doesn't it just mean that your antibodies kill the virus, i.e. it is killed dead when it gets to you
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,956
cc84cov said:
I’m being real you know huge numbers won’t take it
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Why not? Alex Jones conspiracy bullshit?
 
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better days

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,957
cc84cov said:
3.5m we need 80m & fast !!!
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Maybe approaching that many eventually
But for now start with the big cities where the biggest numbers are appearing, especially London
And then gradually extend to towns and finally to rural areas
At present there are only a handful of cases in places like the Highlands of Scotland, Cornwall and rural Lincolnshire for example
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,958
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Why not? Alex Jones conspiracy bullshit?
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Whatever the rights or wrongs, he is right, the wariness of vaccinations is definitely a very big thing.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,959
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Why not? Alex Jones conspiracy bullshit?
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Not sure who Alex Jones is but have a look at numbers of people who have refused previous vaccines
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,960
Ring Of Steel said:
Whatever the rights or wrongs, he is right, the wariness of vaccinations is definitely a very big thing.
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cc84cov said:
Not sure who Alex Jones is but have a look at numbers of people who have refused previous vaccines
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I'm not arguing the point I'm more asking why the wariness exists.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,961
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If you have immunity to a disease and you're exposed to the pathogen you will eliminate it extremely quickly.
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Cool, so even if I touched something contaminated I wouldn’t pass that contamination on to whatever I touched?
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,962
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm not arguing the point I'm more asking why the wariness exists.
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Alex Jones conspiracy bullshit.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,963
shmmeee said:
Cool, so even if I touched something contaminated I wouldn’t pass that contamination on to whatever I touched?
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If it were transmitted to you, you would destroy it in such a short time as to be no threat to others.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,964
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm not arguing the point I'm more asking why the wariness exists.
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No idea mate but it’s a big thing i’ve spoke to some who want it others who don’t
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,965
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm not arguing the point I'm more asking why the wariness exists.
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basically... big pharma companies make billions by lobbying governments to make vaccinations compulsory at birth, which the pharma companies charge for. So you end up with babies being pumped full of things that they don't need and which have subsequently been linked strongly to Autism and other nasty things. I believe that in some places they have successfully got to the point where if you don't agree to have your baby vaccinated then you will never receive any kind of benefit, you are sanctioned. I also think that in some places kids end up having 20+ vaccinations, when there was nothing visibly symptomatic with any of them. There are quite a few celebs on that particular bandwagon I think- Jim Carrey being one?
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,966
And thus we now have measles outbreaks again , blindness death etc.
Polio?
TB?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,967
cc84cov said:
No idea mate but it’s a big thing i’ve spoke to some who want it others who don’t
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Surely people have a reason though?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,968
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Surely people have a reason though?
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up above
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,969
Ring Of Steel said:
basically... big pharma companies make billions by lobbying governments to make vaccinations compulsory at birth, which the pharma companies charge for. So you end up with babies being pumped full of things that they don't need and which have subsequently been linked strongly to Autism and other nasty things. I believe that in some places they have successfully got to the point where if you don't agree to have your baby vaccinated then you will never receive any kind of benefit, you are sanctioned. I also think that in some places kids end up having 20+ vaccinations, when there was nothing visibly symptomatic with any of them. There are quite a few celebs on that particular bandwagon I think- Jim Carrey being one?
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You do realise this originates from a completely debunked article in the Lancet which used a sample size of about 15?
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,970
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You do realise this originates from a completely debunked article in the Lancet which used a sample size of about 15?
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haha- don't shoot the messenger! Thats the reason though.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,971
Ring Of Steel said:
up above
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But it's an insurance policy for the future of those children as they grow .
The mass are protected.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,972
Ring Of Steel said:
haha- don't shoot the messenger! Thats the reason though.
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Vaccines are preventative in nature. To not take them out of one's own stupidity puts most of the others at needless risk.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,973
wingy said:
But it's an insurance policy for the future of those children as they grow .
The mass are protected.
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Yes I get that- and personally I think the Coronavirus vaccine is a no brainer, because without it the infection will never be controlled, I would think it would have to be compulsory.

But he is right though, there will be a lot of people that don't want it.

Just for the record for when people assume its me leading the anti-vaccination groups, I can state that at this point I would not refuse it

... but I do love a good conspiracy theory...
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,974
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Vaccines are preventative in nature. To not take them out of one's own stupidity puts most of the others at needless risk.
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Child vaccines are a minefield to say the least as one suggestion plenty online and on you tube regarding their ingredients probably for another day this one but don’t think for one minute Everyone will take this vaccine when it comes out many have no faith in the government or believe anything they say or do as said the numbers will be huge who refuse
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,975
Nobody told them to go
But nobody told them not to
Imbeciles.


Passenger fury as Heathrow Airport fails to insist on social distancing in border control queues | Daily Mail Online
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,976
cc84cov said:
Child vaccines are a minefield to say the least as one suggestion plenty online and on you tube regarding their ingredients probably for another day this one but don’t think for one minute Everyone will take this vaccine when it comes out many have no faith in the government or believe anything they say or do as said the numbers will be huge who refuse
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They won't believe experts in their field who have rigorously tested a vaccine through many different stages of scrutiny but will believe a hunch

Dumbasses deserve what they get.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,977
Luckily for the idiot anti-vaxxers they aren’t anything like a majority so they will be protected by the people without tin foil on their heads.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,978
shmmeee said:
Luckily for the idiot anti-vaxxers they aren’t anything like a majority so they will be protected by the people without tin foil on their heads.
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I would suspect that anyone openly refusing to take this one will have a very difficult time.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,979
Who would send their kids away now on a spring camp for two to three weeks.
So as to all catch it and come home immune?
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,980
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They won't believe experts in their field who have rigorously tested a vaccine through many different stages of scrutiny but will believe a hunch

Dumbasses deserve what they get.
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This won’t be rigorously tested though will it ? It’s gonna be rushed through without the years of testing ? I’m asthmatic so tbh I would be looking to take it my worry is where is the years of proven testing to say it’s safe,child vaccinations I’m 35 we had 12 compounds I believe it was back then now it’s 35-40 I think we are putting in.Wheh you get a moment google the ingredients in today’s child vaccines interesting read,

7 compounds I had when I was born there is 72 now in new born babies
 
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