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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,841
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Read somewhere yesterday that 40/50% the population could of had it by the middle of April... would this build up a herd immunity faster as most people won't have even knew they had it
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I don't think anyone has any idea do they?
 
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NortonSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,842
Ring Of Steel said:
The thing about being English- I have never got that really. I don't like the assumption that it automatically makes us better than anyone else, and I don't like the way people are treated differently because of where they are from. And I am not having a pop, just saying.
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I have worked all around the world and have seen first hand how other nationalities are treated and we are treated differently in a positive way, maybe not on the costas but certainly I have seen the "come with me sir" to the front of a queue whilst whipping the legs of others in the queue. Not saying it right but it is the golden ticket.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,843
Ring Of Steel said:
How do you know? Interested, not questioning you. Seems strange that companies would say it if its lies.
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Because I authorised the order.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,844
MalcSB said:
Because I authorised the order.
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haha- very good. However with all due respect it doesn't invalidate what the other companies were saying.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,845
MalcSB said:
Because I authorised the order.
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But weird that this guy would lie. When did you authorise the order?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,846
What’s the latest with those test your antibody kits?
 

MalcSB

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,847
Ring Of Steel said:
haha- very good. However with all due respect it doesn't invalidate what the other companies were saying.
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We have actually ordered reagents from several manufacturers.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,848
Too little too late
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,849
shmmeee said:
But weird that this guy would lie. When did you authorise the order?
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Over two weeks ago, about 6 March IIRC
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,850
MalcSB said:
Over two weeks ago, about 6 March IIRC
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Very weird. Maybe he just wanted some social media exposure.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,851
The NHS isn't a national health service at all, there is no unified body, just hundreds of Trusts and Foundation Trusts and central purchasing bodies under taking procurement. This is what has led to this scenario.
The Trusts, many of which are in deficit are being told to make significant savings, one of the ways they do it is 'material management' which essentially is minimising stockholding. When something like this comes along the whole thing falls down. The new hospitals have been designed with limited storage space for stock and equipment either. It's a complete fuck up and governments over a long period are culpable for it.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,852
National League apparently voiding their season
 

Otis

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,853
Nick said:
National League apparently voiding their season
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National League to void season due to coronavirus outbreak

That doesn't make sense does it? They say null and void, but then talk about who will be promoted and relegated.

That's not what null and void means. I think they mean the rest of the season's fixtures don't they?

Or have I read that wrong?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,854
Otis said:
National League to void season due to coronavirus outbreak

That doesn't make sense does it? They say null and void, but then talk about who will be promoted and relegated.

That's not what null and void means. I think they mean the rest of the season's fixtures don't they?

Or have I read that wrong?
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That’s how I read it, but obviously the other leagues would have to agree to take the promoted teams I guess. I bet the Prem refuses and fucks it up for everyone
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,855
shmmeee said:
That’s how I read it, but obviously the other leagues would have to agree to take the promoted teams I guess. I bet the Prem refuses and fucks it up for everyone
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The issue will be the Prem and Championship promotion contenders.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,856
Just put the top two up in each division and relegate one extra next two seasons, it’s the neatest solution. All it would require is teams getting what? 10% less money in the Prem? Which I why I expect them to kick up a fuss.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,857
I’m sure I read somewhere that the top 6 in the championship are considering joint funded legal action if the premier league block promotion
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,858
Astute said:
Not me M'lord. Mainly Margate, London and Manchester. Lost a very good mate to an idiot with a knife in Coventry when he was on the door. Still gets me now that does. Couldn't work Coventry after that.
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Wasn’t Noel Darcy was it? Good lad, no need.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,859

Disgraceful. And of course a Tory donor!
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,860
In terms of testing I can only share some of the things I’ve read....

Chris Witty mentioned a while back that testing followed by tracing at tracking is best utilised at start of outbreak and then on the other side of the peak. Testing currently helps a bit in relation to knowing total numbers (likely pressure on health service), however, unless you can track people who the carrier has been in contact with, then I’m guessing there’s little difference between testing and people with symptoms self isolating in conjunction with getting everyone else pretty much staying at home ? This is probably even more relevant when the disease can be asymptomatic in a significant proportion of cases ie unless you’re testing the whole population you have large numbers of untested (asymptomatic) carriers still spreading the disease

The antibody test (to see if you’ve had C-19 not just got it) is far more beneficial both medically and socially, in the short to medium term. Apparently there's an order that’s gone in, let’s hope it’s in circulation asap

Ps what I can not understand/defend is why the there has not better testing for NHS workers. Its inexcusable as it keeps frontline workers in isolation for longer than necessary
 
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tisza

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,861
shmmeee said:

Disgraceful. And of course a Tory donor!
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sorry is that just while they're at home this week or normally what they would get? Either way still appalling
 
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Walsgrave

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,862
Magwitch said:
It’s amazing remembering, unbelievable really that it’s just over three months ago since the GE of the 12th of December which gave us the Tory landslide that put Boris on ten foot of concrete with his 80 seat majority, the opposition massacred enabling him to “get Brexit done” and a free hand to massage his promises of 40 new hospitals, thousands of new doctors and nurses, 20000 new police officers the ending of austerity etc,etc. His and his party’s political grip has gone, ripped away, and when the inquests are held in a few months time of his handling of this crisis he and his cohorts will inevitably pay the price and a new politics will grow, cash deprived areas such as the NHS, the connected social care system local government and low pay will dominate for years to come I believe. We are witnessing through out the country and world even a sort of mixed socialism, not the Jeremy Corbyn version by the way just a common sense version.
Harold Wilson famously said a week is a long time in politics what we are witnessing now is a life time, worldwide.
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You sound like Vernon Bogdanor
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,863
tisza said:
sorry is that just while they're at home this week or normally what they would get? Either way still appalling
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While they’re at home. Schools are paying them to provide the free meals they’re contracted to do. Aside from the cooking butter there’s no way wholesale all that cost more than about £5.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,864
BackRoomRummermill said:
You say quite a lot of stuff on here without actually saying anything at all , you are a noisy fuckwit who will achieve fuck all in life , you realise many people have you on ignore for that very reason
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Cool story, you're a gimp who lives a Walter Mitty life. Everyone thinks you're a c**t and a bigot who is at best in a long distance relationship with the truth.

Strangely people seem to react to my posts so it would seem most folk don't have me on ignore, so once again you talk shite.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,865
CCFCSteve said:
In terms of testing I can only share some of the things I’ve read....

Chris Witty mentioned a while back that testing followed by tracing at tracking is best utilised at start of outbreak and then on the other side of the peak. Testing currently helps a bit in relation to knowing total numbers (likely pressure on health service), however, unless you can track people who the carrier has been in contact with, then I’m guessing there’s little difference between testing and people with symptoms self isolating in conjunction with getting everyone else pretty much staying at home ? This is probably even more relevant when the disease is asymptomatic.

The antibody test (to see if you’ve had C-19 not just got it) is far more beneficial both medically and socially, in the short to medium term. Apparently there's an order that’s gone in, let’s hope it’s in circulation asap

Ps what I can not understand/defend is why the there has not better testing for NHS workers. Its inexcusable as it keeps frontline workers in isolation for longer than necessary
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I want one
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,866
shmmeee said:
While they’re at home. Schools are paying them to provide the free meals they’re contracted to do. Aside from the cooking butter there’s no way wholesale all that cost more than about £5.
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Leaving everything to the market being exposed again
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,867
Grendel said:
I’m sure I read somewhere that the top 6 in the championship are considering joint funded legal action if the premier league block promotion
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They'd be mad not to given the money at stake
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,868
fernandopartridge said:
Leaving everything to the market being exposed again
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Outsourcing school meals is always a disaster every time I’ve witnessed it.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,869
They think the biggest point of strain on the nhs is in a out 3 weeks but Professor Neil Fergusson of imperial college report vamenow thi ks the NHS will just about be able to cope
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,870
David O'Day said:
They think the biggest point of strain on the nhs is in a out 3 weeks but Professor Neil Fergusson of imperial college report vamenow thi ks the NHS will just about be able to cope
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Yeah peak is 2-3 weeks aint it
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,871
better days said:
Did anyone see the article in a weekend newspaper that shows that the vast majority of cases are in a band across the globe with a temperature range of 5c to 12c?
Could that offer a glimmer of hope?
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Wow that’s interesting
 

matesx

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,872
Sky Blue Pete said:
Wow that’s interesting
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Saw that, doesn't appear to thrive in hot humid areas.

Hence low figures in India and Africa?

roll on Summer!
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,873
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yeah peak is 2-3 weeks aint it
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Yeah, but it's interesting that the man behind the 80 percent infection report is now more optimistic
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,874
shmmeee said:
I mean that’s up to your Mum but the law is what I said and there’s plenty of examples around of people getting evicted. One an NHS worker with the landlord saying “I can’t take any chances getting this virus” disgusting. But that’s landlords for you.

We’ve had the bare minimum support to keep business going really. Dresses up in press conferences as some great support package. The wage grants didn’t stop Wetherspoons sacking everyone. Still nothing for self employed people. Still the lowest sick pay in Western Europe.

I worry what we’ll look like if this if for three months.
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So that’s landlords for you, not this one couple who rent my house are like me both have underlying conditions and are being paid statutory sick pay. I’ve told them to forget the rent for at least the next 12 weeks.
 
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better days

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #7,875
Did anyone see the article in a weekend newspaper that shows that the vast majority of cases are in a band across the globe with a temperature range of 5c to 12c?
Could that offer a glimmer of hope?

Sky Blue Pete said:
Wow that’s interesting
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And apparently only 6% of cases are in areas which have had temperatures above 18C
 
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