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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #596
Kieranp96 said:
The chances of catching co-vid 19 are far lower than anything else
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Eh? Given that nobody has any immunity to it at all I’m not sure what this means. You got any source for this?
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #597
fellatio_Martinez said:
If the football league decides to abandon this season and start a fresh next season it would be quite unfortunate for us wouldn't it?
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Now that’s what I call an understatement.


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Kieranp96

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #598
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Eh? Given that nobody has any immunity to it at all I’m not sure what this means. You got any source for this?
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They tested the spread and shit when it was first becoming a thing, simply Google it and you will find all the info you want.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #599
Kieranp96 said:
They tested the spread and shit when it was first becoming a thing, simply Google it and you will find all the info you want.
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It's running at 3 time's the predicted need for treatment in Italy.
 

ccfcricoh

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #600
SkyBlueDom26 said:
How would they, if its based on form? That means that most deserving teams would be in the play offs
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How many games do you take the form for though? last 6? Last 8? Last 10? or just do PPG overall so far? Each one likely to have a different outcome.

If last 6 - Oxford in playoffs
If PPG - Wycombe
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #601
wingy said:
It's running at 3 time's the predicted need for treatment in Italy.
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Italy is being hit hard because of the age factor or so I read.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #602
shmmeee said:
Swine Flu has a mortality rate far far lower than COVID19. Even lower estimates for COVID put it at 50 times as lethal.

It’s the combination of lethality and contagiousness that you use to judge severity not one or the other.
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I don't think that's the case. Swine flu had a mortality rate of 0.8%. The thinking appears to be that covid-19 may have a mortality rate of 2% but confess I haven't seen too much on projected infections. Do you have a link?
 
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steve cooper

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #603
Kieranp96 said:
Italy is being hit hard because of the age factor or so I read.
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I read earlier today that the average age of those who have died in Italy is 81 ......Average!!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #604
dubed said:
I don't think that's the case. Swine flu had a mortality rate of 0.8%. The thinking appears to be that covid-19 may have a mortality rate of 2% but confess I haven't seen too much on projected infections.
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Was going off this for swine flu at 0.02%:



And estimating COVID at 1% lower bounds.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #605
shmmeee said:
Was going off this for swine flu at 0.02%:

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And estimating COVID at 1% lower bounds.
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They released a statistic a few years ago saying they reckon 200/300k more people died of swine flu than what was actually recorded.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #606
I took my figure for swine flu from a peer-reviewed paper. But this aside, Shimmeee, I don't think this gives us a window into its contagiousness, which would be the other component here on how lethal it is. On the mortality rate, it's been considered that the worldometer figure is inflated by a lesser accuracy in identifying covid-19 at the early stages of the outbreak. But we know it all too early to say.
 

fellatio_Martinez

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #607
lifeskyblue said:
Now that’s what I call an understatement.


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I'd be pretty miffed tbf!
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #608
Wow the Forest owner literally bringing the Championship down. Met all the players, met with fans etc...I think we are weeks if not sooner for games to be played behind closed doors or suspended for a month.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #609
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Wow the Forest owner literally bringing the Championship down. Met all the players, met with fans etc...I think we are weeks if not sooner for games to be played behind closed doors or suspended for a month.
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Completely selfish
 

Tommo1993

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #610
Heard on Radio 2 that it takes 5 days for symptoms to kick in. I’m not quite panicking just yet, a bit worried maybe to see how soon they’re going to nip this in the bud.

Just hoping the bog roll horders get the chronic shits. And hopefully those selling it on get it even worse.
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #611
Kieranp96 said:
They tested the spread and shit when it was first becoming a thing, simply Google it and you will find all the info you want.
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I have, but I’ve never seen that said anywhere before and as you said it on a public forum I wondered if you could maybe back it up?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #612
lifeskyblue said:
Now that’s what I call an understatement.


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At this stage in the season I don't see why they couldn't promote the top 3
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #613
Tommo1993 said:
Heard on Radio 2 that it takes 5 days for symptoms to kick in. I’m not quite panicking just yet, a bit worried maybe to see how soon they’re going to nip this in the bud.

Just hoping the bog roll horders get the chronic shits. And hopefully those selling it on get it even worse.
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If they're from Holbrooks they may need the shit roll what with typhoid making a comeback.

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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #614
Look for the sake of all our bets for Cov to win league just call it now EFL !
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #615
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
I have, but I’ve never seen that said anywhere before and as you said it on a public forum I wondered if you could maybe back it up?
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It was around the time the women in this country took a Uber to hospital, and they said something like there was not enough sustained close contact and that it can only spread a few feet Infront of you, but this was before the new strain the less deadly strain was identified.
 

Gibbo

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #616
Things you should know.
1. Every western country is on exactly the same track as Italy, the only variable is the date of the first case. So in two weeks time UK likely to be like Italy today
2. Only one western economy breaks this rule - Japan, which is curious given the age of the population
3. Italy has a death rate of 8% - but it too has an elderly population
4. Euro's likely to be put off so that domestic competitions can be completed.
5. China's cycle from start to finish was around 8 weeks.
6. An open air football stadium has a low contamination risk. BUT WHO advice (not yet done by HM Govt) is for over 60's not to go (bugger)
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #617
lifeskyblue said:
Now that’s what I call an understatement.


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And a tad worse than the European season scuppered by Liverpool 1987
 
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Jcap

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #618
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #619
David O'Day said:
If they're from Holbrooks they may need the shit roll what with typhoid making a comeback.

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Whitmore Park. Is there one in Holbrook as well?
 
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Jcap

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #620
 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #621
Austrian and German ice hockey leagues have been abandoned, will be no champions this season in either.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #622
Gibbo said:
Things you should know.
1. Every western country is on exactly the same track as Italy, the only variable is the date of the first case. So in two weeks time UK likely to be like Italy today
2. Only one western economy breaks this rule - Japan, which is curious given the age of the population
3. Italy has a death rate of 8% - but it too has an elderly population
4. Euro's likely to be put off so that domestic competitions can be completed.
5. China's cycle from start to finish was around 8 weeks.
6. An open air football stadium has a low contamination risk. BUT WHO advice (not yet done by HM Govt) is for over 60's not to go (bugger)
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Italy is unique to its exploration of illegal Chinese workers who are shipped in and out to support their fashion industry
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #623
Seems inevitable that games will be played behind closed doors very soon
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #624
Kieranp96 said:
It was around the time the women in this country took a Uber to hospital, and they said something like there was not enough sustained close contact and that it can only spread a few feet Infront of you, but this was before the new strain the less deadly strain was identified.
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How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu? | Live Science
This article (references studies from peer reviewed journals) states that flu has an infection rate, (measured by how many people each infected person will infect and called R0) of R0 = 1.2. Preliminary studies suggest Coronavirus has an infection rate of R0 = 2 - 3, so its roughly twice as infectious as the flu. Which kills many thousands every year. It also has a significantly higher mortality rate. So, easier to catch than the flu and significantly more deadly according to the data so far.

If you have any source that contradicts those figures I’ll happily take a look.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #625
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu? | Live Science
This article (references studies from peer reviewed journals) states that flu has an infection rate, (measured by how many people each infected person will infect and called R0) of R0 = 1.2. Preliminary studies suggest Coronavirus has an infection rate of R0 = 2 - 3, so its roughly twice as infectious as the flu. Which kills many thousands every year. It also has a significantly higher mortality rate. So, easier to catch than the flu and significantly more deadly according to the data so far.

If you have any source that contradicts those figures I’ll happily take a look.
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Yes, it has a significantly higher rate than 'seasonal flu' but not significantly higher than the 2009 swine flu pandemic. Again, swine flue rate was 0.8%, the figures in the article you quote vary from 1-4% to 2.3%. Again, context is important 1% of the world caught swine flu, of which 1% died
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #626
Flying Fokker said:
Whitmore Park. Is there one in Holbrook as well?
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Same place really unless you're an estate agent

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David O'Day

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #627
Gibbo said:
Things you should know.
1. Every western country is on exactly the same track as Italy, the only variable is the date of the first case. So in two weeks time UK likely to be like Italy today
2. Only one western economy breaks this rule - Japan, which is curious given the age of the population
3. Italy has a death rate of 8% - but it too has an elderly population
4. Euro's likely to be put off so that domestic competitions can be completed.
5. China's cycle from start to finish was around 8 weeks.
6. An open air football stadium has a low contamination risk. BUT WHO advice (not yet done by HM Govt) is for over 60's not to go (bugger)
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That is just not true, italy couldn't get a handle on where the virus was entering from meaning they couldn't contain the spread. The first confirmed cases were on the same day in the uk and italy.

Also the leaking of the plan to lock down Lombardy was spread it around the country faster than normal.

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CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #628
Any mention on here about the Nottingham Forest owner testing positive for corona virus? He was also at their last game...
 

Otis

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #629
CanadianCCFC said:
Any mention on here about the Nottingham Forest owner testing positive for corona virus? He was also at their last game...
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No. What?!!!!

First I have heard of it.

 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #630
Gibbo said:
Things you should know.
3. Italy has a death rate of 8% - but it too has an elderly population
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5% according to the bbc. Again, the real rate will only be known once more extensive testing for the disease has taken place.
 
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