Instagram or you tube - Scarcity studios it’s from this morning NHS stAff couldn’t get inThat was from 2016!!
Instagram or you tube - Scarcity studios it’s from this morning NHS stAff couldn’t get in
It's not about these circumstances.
It's about NHS staff not having what they need because of 10 years of Tory rule.
What's difficult to grasp?
'Economically liberal, socially conservative' with a small C is a pretty apt phrase at this time that I believe a lot of people confide in.
When it suits them they will be i.e. when there is a crisis such as this. By the looks of things, it seems like few are behaving in a socially conservative manner too.No evidence at all that people are economic liberals.
Still remember laughing at this post when thread was made...Ok looking at Italy today and the rapid spread could this now mess up the season
Serie A games off in Italy
Any thoughts ? It may happen in fact more likely than not
Russia raises issues.Russia seems to be doing better against it!
When it suits them they will be i.e. when there is a crisis such as this. By the looks of things, it seems like few are behaving in a socially conservative manner too.
It's like with the supermarkets, if people just acted as normal we'd be fine but people are acting like selfish pricks.
I walk the dog in the memorial park all the time, before all this you'd only see a handful of people unless it was a bank holiday or some event. Now its rammed with people sitting around in groups drinking, having picnics etc. They aren't gong for a walk to get a bit of exercise / air. Not to mention there's now loads of rubbish and broken glass where they can't even be bothered to clear up after themselves.
Well... again, you've missed my point.Should everyone have backed Chamberlain in the thirties?
Well... again, you've missed my point.
But, let's go hiostorical
On a very basic level the answer is yes... and they did! hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the initial strategy wasn't wrong, and was the popular one at the time. Churchill was seen as the maverick, the outsider. Two things that can be drawn from that:
Following the herd(excuse the reference) on here isn't automatically the 'right' thing to do.
Strong leadership can often involve going against the grain of public opinion. Churchill was a strong leader. Johnson's arguably shown he isn't by changing course... although arguably it was always set up for this anyway, it's just happened quicker than expected.
Now, again, what I'm really trying to avoid is the personalising. In having a slightly different view I'm not hoping people die, I'm not a wanker, and none of us really know the 'right' course of action... other than (as I've always said!) ultimately we have to follow advice given by goivernment at this time, if it's advice drawn from experts. Sometimes, that may end up wrong... Got no issue with pointing out the NHS is badly equipped to deal with this because of the self-same government etc., but it's a swiftly moving situation, and things change. personally I find it surprising that civil liberties are shut down so much, so quickly. I have little choice but to follow it, but I am nervous...
Oh, a further aside, Chamberlain was one of Churchill's more trusted confidantes, and he wrote very warmly in his private papers when he died. A lot of the reinvention is as much that the history of Churchill was written by... Churchill.
Truely hope you are correct G and it eases, but for the moment I guess it depends where you go ....I think food issues will ease - staffing was an issue I think and also the 24 hour opening. Restocking was as much an issue as anything else. Today the shops other than the usual strange items actually looked better and certainly more related to normality
Saw that on news and doesn't surprise me. Similar problem at Tesco Quinton where the NHS were supposed to get first dibs but half of them couldn't get on the car park as the gen public were also queuing up. One Nurse gave up and tried Sainsburys at Blackheath, where she was telling my missus how bad it was.Just seen footage of Tesco - Dudley Jesus lord truly shocking
We can indeed agree to disagree, and there's nothing wrong with that.Well agree to disagree here but I think you’re placing far to much stock in the idea we were following purely scientific advice and that the fact we were out on our own with a risky strategy was clear to anyone even half following what was going on.
The useless prick in Islington who couldn’t oust a useless tory,Says it all really!!Get your tongue out of Boris' hole.
Truely hope you are correct G and it eases, but for the moment I guess it depends where you go ....
Saw that on news and doesn't surprise me. Similar problem at Tesco Quinton where the NHS were supposed to get first dibs but half of them couldn't get on the car park as the gen public were also queuing up. One Nurse gave up and tried Sainsburys at Blackheath, where she was telling my missus how bad it was.
Rumour (Facebook of course!) is that Tesco and Sainsburys are going to stop putting trollys out, making it baskets only and more difficult for people to buy more than they need. A possible solution, but that would mean more people having to go more often - more chances of passing the virus along.
He's more Joan Sutherland than Kieffer.
I see the lefties on here are still trying to political point score against Boris,Give the guy a break ffs.
The useless prick in Islington who couldn’t oust a useless tory,Says it all really!!
More like two weeks, though today’s numbers are hopeful, we’ve had days like that before only to shoot up afterwards. Let’s hope Italy have peaked and that means we can probably get away with four weeks total lockdown. Of course it’s once they take the restrictions off and how fast it rises that determines how quickly the restrictions will need to go back on again. I’m hoping a month of lockdown means people take the less serious measures more seriously after, but wouldn’t be surprised if people take a “Make the most of it while we can” attitude.
Coronavirus: 'Healthy' NHS nurse, 36, in intensive care after contracting COVID-19
36 year old, healthy, with no pre-existing conditions.
Like what was said earlier, gone from ‘if you’re young and fit you’ve got nothing to worry about’, to that. If younger cases doesn’t cause lockdown, nothing will.
That's actually some people's narrative.
The mad think is I've actually given him some praise for some of the stuff he's done during this crisis.
Agree do they seriously think. Corbyn, McDonald and Dianne Abbott would be doing a better job in these unprecendented set of circumstances? If be nice if they could explain how.
This is a horrible time and one we need cross party working to get through this. I hope the left, right and centre ground politicians are being more measured and collaborative about things than some of the posters on here.
Or if they'll liveIt was open because it’s Mother’s Day and most of the stall holders will be self employed people banking on the money from Mother Day to make ends meet and haven’t been given any indication the government will support them otherwise. You can’t ask people to shut down their livelihood and not explain how they’ll live.
Still remember laughing at this post when thread was made...
This is the time we should of acted and locked down
me too- my parents seem to feel perked up after seeing him on TV, it cheers them up & that’s a good thing. But seems you’re not allowed to be balanced, it’s the case that “you must be behind Boris 100% unquestioningly or you’re a c**t”
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