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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,511
In fairness to G he's always said he is a libertarian. Anybody who is of that mindset will be opposed such measures. I happen to agree, I think the information from government has been contradictory or ambiguous at best so far. That should have been improved before invoking something really draconian. Also, the two year window is unnecessary and tells you about the no deal Brexit chaos planning which is also going on.
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,512
SkyBlueDom26 said:
One thing I don’t understand is how the peak was 12 weeks away and now is only 2, is it because of how quick all of these tough measures have come in? When they would have been slowly brought in within 12 weeks
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Good question this. I wonder the same.

However you wont get an answer because its not calling someone who reads a particular newspaper a prick
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,513
Just stay at home you c*nt
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,514
shmmeee said:
Hahahahaha Peter Hitchens, what a surprise. The guys a contrarian imbecile.
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lol , I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to note that- peas in a pod right there, both of them looking to always take the opposite view to get some attention and stay relevant.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,515
Saddlebrains said:
Good question this. I wonder the same.

However you wont get an answer because its not calling someone who reads a particular newspaper a prick
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I think it’s because they planned to slowly bring in these measures over a 12 week period, I think where we are now is at around week 9/10 of where we would of been as the peak is 2 weeks away
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,516
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I think it’s because they planned to slowly bring in these measures over a 12 week period, I think where we are now is at around week 9/10 of where we would of been as the peak is 2 weeks away
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What tough measures?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,517
Johhny Blue said:
It certainly is a "Different" publication
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Very different very pro EU for a start
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,518
Just saw the scenes on C4 news from a London flower market today and it was rammed. A flower market! Why the hell was it open in the first place?
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,519
Sick Boy said:
What tough measures?
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Locking everyone down... shutting schools? Think this would have been stage 4 of the government plan before it got thrown out the window
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,520
Saddlebrains said:
Good question this. I wonder the same.

However you wont get an answer because its not calling someone who reads a particular newspaper a prick
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Not sure where two weeks has come from unless they're assuming a big decrease in transmission rates, doesn't sound realistic. 12 weeks I suspect is closer to reality.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,521
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Locking everyone down... shutting schools? Think this would have been stage 4 of the government plan before it got thrown out the window
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It looks like we're on course to be under Italy for deaths at 22 days.
Fingers crossed that is the case.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,522
I think we'll beat Shrewsbury 2-1 Godden & O'Hare
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,523
Alright, every now and again I enter this thread, and wish I didn't. it often seems for holding a view that even slightly differs from certain posters I'll end up having to wade through the emotive claptrap and personalisation of it all.

Now fair's fair, and a c**t's a c**t, but on this subject, could we maybe try to stop it being such personal bollocks?
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,524
I see the lefties on here are still trying to political point score against Boris,Give the guy a break ffs.
Would that tramp in Islington do any better?
And yes they’ve both never had a proper job!!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,525
skybluetony176 said:
Just saw the scenes on C4 news from a London flower market today and it was rammed. A flower market! Why the hell was it open in the first place?
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It was open because it’s Mother’s Day and most of the stall holders will be self employed people banking on the money from Mother Day to make ends meet and haven’t been given any indication the government will support them otherwise. You can’t ask people to shut down their livelihood and not explain how they’ll live.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,526
westcountry_skyblue said:
I see the lefties on here are still trying to political point score against Boris,Give the guy a break ffs.
Would that tramp in Islington do any better?
And yes they’ve both never had a proper job!!
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You realise you're slating people for having a go at a politician... While having a go at another politician?
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,527
westcountry_skyblue said:
I see the lefties on here are still trying to political point score against Boris,Give the guy a break ffs.
Would that tramp in Islington do any better?
And yes they’ve both never had a proper job!!
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Doctors have said today they don't have the neccessary PPE.
After 10 years of Tory government who do you think is to blame and why do you think it shouldn't be mentioned?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,528
clint van damme said:
Doctors have said today they don't have the neccessary PPE.
After 10 years of Tory government who do you think is to blame and why do you think it shouldn't be mentioned?
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Look just be nice to Boris OK?
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,529
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Locking everyone down... shutting schools? Think this would have been stage 4 of the government plan before it got thrown out the window
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Everyone hasn't been locked down?
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,530
shmmeee said:
Look just be nice to Boris OK?
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That's actually some people's narrative.
The mad think is I've actually given him some praise for some of the stuff he's done during this crisis.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,531
westcountry_skyblue said:
I see the lefties on here are still trying to political point score against Boris,Give the guy a break ffs.
Would that tramp in Islington do any better?
And yes they’ve both never had a proper job!!
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Get your tongue out of Boris' hole.
 

tisza

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,532
Grendel said:
I have huge compassion for human life and well being - I’m amazed you are so obsessed with state control - I’m sure this will make you very angry as well but read it and attempt to understand it

PETER HITCHENS: Is shutting down Britain REALLY the right answer? | Daily Mail Online
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The option is unpalatable in most circumstances. But I don't see him offering alternatives apart from doing nothing and see what happens.
If people were universally following guidelines then the measures wouldn't be necessary. But obviously they're not.
It's not as if other countries are trying alternative strategies to gain an advantage.
It's fast becoming a global issue so most are going to suffer economic disadvantages.
Govts across the world (regardless of political hue) are looking at similar policies - just the time line isn't global due to the virus being at such different stages geographically.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,533
clint van damme said:
Doctors have said today they don't have the neccessary PPE.
After 10 years of Tory government who do you think is to blame and why do you think it shouldn't be mentioned?
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I think it's Gordon Brown's fault. Or something.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,534
tisza said:
The option is unpalatable in most circumstances. But I don't see him offering alternatives apart from doing nothing and see what happens.
If people were universally following guidelines then the measures wouldn't be necessary. But obviously they're not.
It's not as if other countries are trying alternative strategies to gain an advantage.
It's fast becoming a global issue so most are going to suffer economic disadvantages.
Govts across the world (regardless of political hue) are looking at similar policies - just the time line isn't global due to the virus being at such different stages geographically.
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Yeah. To be fair to Johnson he's given.people the option to be responsible so he doesn't have to increase the severity of the measures and large swathes of the public have totally fucking ignored him.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,535
westcountry_skyblue said:
I see the lefties on here are still trying to political point score against Boris,Give the guy a break ffs.
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And this is exactly what I want to avoid...
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,536
MalcSB said:
It’s the pe

It’s the people who don’t listen who are prats. I wonder what their average age is? Or their IQ?
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Just seen footage of Tesco - Dudley Jesus lord truly shocking
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,537
Deleted member 5849 said:
And this is exactly what I want to avoid...
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To be fair Tories still going on about Corbyn is hilarious and just shows how weak their arguments actually are
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,538
Russia seems to be doing better against it!
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,539
cc84cov said:
Just seen footage of Tesco - Dudley Jesus lord truly shocking
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That was from 2016!!
 

SeaSeeEffCee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,540
Weird how it’s never time to talk about politics when it’s right leaning policies that are influencing the situation eh...
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,541
westcountry_skyblue said:
I see the lefties on here are still trying to political point score against Boris,Give the guy a break ffs.
Would that tramp in Islington do any better?
And yes they’ve both never had a proper job!!
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Agree do they seriously think. Corbyn, McDonald and Dianne Abbott would be doing a better job in these unprecendented set of circumstances? If be nice if they could explain how.

This is a horrible time and one we need cross party working to get through this. I hope the left, right and centre ground politicians are being more measured and collaborative about things than some of the posters on here.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,542
clint van damme said:
To be fair Tories still going on about Corbyn is hilarious and just shows how weak their arguments actually are
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I meant more the generalised lefty bollocks. I consider myself pretty lefty, but on this issue am not necessarily on the same page as many of you.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,543
Deleted member 5849 said:
And this is exactly what I want to avoid...
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Should everyone have backed Chamberlain in the thirties?
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,544
ccfc1234 said:
Agree do they seriously think. Corbyn, McDonald and Dianne Abbott would be doing a better job in these unprecendented set of circumstances? If be nice if they could explain how.

This is a horrible time and one we need cross party working to get through this. I hope the left, right and centre ground politicians are being more measured and collaborative about things than some of the posters on here.
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Yes. Once you get outside Corbyns immediate circle the quality and experience available to Labour dwarfs the Conservatives post Boris’ purge.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,545
ccfc1234 said:
Agree do they seriously think. Corbyn, McDonald and Dianne Abbott would be doing a better job in these unprecendented set of circumstances? If be nice if they could explain how.

This is a horrible time and one we need cross party working to get through this. I hope the left, right and centre ground politicians are being more measured and collaborative about things than some of the posters on here.
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It's not about these circumstances.
It's about NHS staff not having what they need because of 10 years of Tory rule.

What's difficult to grasp?
 
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