I'm sure the British Transport Police could stick the odd officer at station doors just to remind people. Not fines and shit, I don't really want to see that, but a presence would help in itself. They generally stand around doing sod all anyway so why not.The problem when you move the onus from government onto companies and organisations, innit. You get some deciding it's not a legal requirement, so fuck 'em (as an aside, it's not a legal requirement to give your kid a Christmas present, or be polite to your wife, but most people do do things that aren't a legal requirement for the sake of others) and the general messaging it gives out is it's all over.
But, you and I will be told we're scared soon if we carry on, so I'm out.
A strong mesage from the top helps tbf, let alone anything else. The current national guidance is still to wear masks when you're in an enclosed space with lots of people - not that you'd know unless you went looking for it, mind!I'm sure the British Transport Police could stick the odd officer at station doors just to remind people. Not fines and shit, I don't really want to see that, but a presence would help in itself. They generally stand around doing sod all anyway so why not.
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The problem when you move the onus from government onto companies and organisations, innit. You get some deciding it's not a legal requirement, so fuck 'em (as an aside, it's not a legal requirement to give your kid a Christmas present, or be polite to your wife, but most people do do things that aren't a legal requirement for the sake of others) and the general messaging it gives out is it's all over.
But, you and I will be told we're scared soon if we carry on, so I'm out.
Was gonna post this myself, another esteemed tweeter said the results were still "off the charts". Get it into people's arms.One for the boosters doubters regarding “will we have to do this every six months forever”
Very early limited data but first person boosted is still showing antibodies off the charts 8 months later…
You still haven't told me why lockdowns don't work.Well if they don’t want to wear a mask it’s up to them - it’s not the law
Common sense, you cabt eradicate it so immunity is the only way to go unless you want to just hide in your house.You still haven't told me why lockdowns don't work.
No, the poster in question was saying lockdowns didn't work. My point was what controlled the spread of the virus last January for example - pre vaccine - if it wasn't the lockdown?Common sense, you cabt eradicate it so immunity is the only way to go unless you want to just hide in your house.
Wow glad you’re not in power in any capacity. Just let it run is not a solution surelyCommon sense, you cabt eradicate it so immunity is the only way to go unless you want to just hide in your house.
So run and hide against something not much deadlier than ths flu?Wow glad you’re not in power in any capacity. Just let it run is not a solution surely
They do work for a time at slowing the spread but thsn what as soon as you unease thsy go up again, and ahain stary infecting the eldererly and weak, there is no way to stop it if there was we would of locked down for what ever that period of time would of been.No, the poster in question was saying lockdowns didn't work. My point was what controlled the spread of the virus last January for example - pre vaccine - if it wasn't the lockdown?
Wow glad you’re not in power in any capacity. Just let it run is not a solution surely
ESB will be happy.
Austria to go into full lockdown as Covid surges
As well as Monday's lockdown, the chancellor says vaccinations will be compulsory from February.www.bbc.co.uk
...and my neighbour kept having house parties, where he'd have probably been safer staying in the pub!.all I know is when they tried the 10pm curfew here loads were out on the piss from 1pm Saturdays
Get fucked.So run and hide against something not much deadlier than ths flu?
You know im right.Get fucked.
It’s clearly more deadly than the flu and you’re writing it on a thread where a poster in his mid 30s died from it - have some respect.You know im right.
I don't understand why it's so difficult for some to grasp that yes, it will still be among us - the Black Death and Spanish flu are still among us! But that the whole point is to get society to a stage that when it *isn't* as much of a threat, we've got there without *too* much collateral damage.It’s clearly more deadly than the flu and you’re writing it on a thread where a poster in his mid 30s died from it - have some respect.
It is much deadlier than the flu you complete clownSo run and hide against something not much deadlier than ths flu?
Its going to eun its course anyway whether we lockdown or not thats my point.
That's the way out, for sure.Finally some good news on variants. A study from Imperial confirms the initial findings of the Health Security Agency that the AY.4.2 variant, known as child of delta in the press, which is thought to be 10 - 15% more transmissible than delta produces fewer symptomatic people.
This is what we were told about variants to start with, they would become more transmissible but less dangerous. Its still not great in terms of how many people get ill but if we start going down the road of variants being weaker and still covered by the vaccine that can only help.
Was an interesting interview with a virologist on the radio the other day. He said historically pandemics burn themselves out in a couple of years.That's the way out, for sure.
Who? When?It’s clearly more deadly than the flu and you’re writing it on a thread where a poster in his mid 30s died from it - have some respect.
It isnt though, its shown that the flu is like. 00.48% mortality and covid is 00.53 or some shit for anyone under 80, but wven over 80. Flu or covid the mortality rate goes up, and dame goes for those with health issues. You're the clown thinking locking down every few weeks will solve the issue.It is much deadlier than the flu you complete clown
Yeah, as ever winter is the tough time, so it'll be see how we go next winter I guess, to see if we're truly over it. Proceed with optimistic caution is probably fair, however!Was an interesting interview with a virologist on the radio the other day. He said historically pandemics burn themselves out in a couple of years.
That puts us to next spring so if we can get through the winter without the NHS collapsing a combination of the third dose seemingly producing the best protection yet & lasting longer, less dangerous variants and anti-viral treatments coming online there might be some light at the end of the tunnel.
We could finally reach the 'its just like flu' stage and it will just be an annual booster for the vulnerable and those that want it as we do with flu.
It was made public sometime in june that covid was at its peak of sickness and from here in out it would get weaker and weaker, unless it somehow found away to avoid vaccines and antibodys it will eventually just be the common cold.Finally some good news on variants. A study from Imperial confirms the initial findings of the Health Security Agency that the AY.4.2 variant, known as child of delta in the press, which is thought to be 10 - 15% more transmissible than delta but produces fewer symptomatic people.
This is what we were told about variants to start with, they would become more transmissible but less dangerous. Its still not great in terms of how many people get ill but if we start going down the road of variants being weaker and still covered by the vaccine that can only help.
Our hospitalisations and deaths are going down so surley we're a bit ahead of everyone else, especially with the natuaral immunity and the vaccinations, i doubt we will see another peak of 60k cases a day in this country this year, could be wrong but hope not.Yeah, as ever winter is the tough time, so it'll be see how we go next winter I guess, to see if we're truly over it. Proceed with optimistic caution is probably fair, however!
It isnt though, its shown that the flu is like. 00.48% mortality and covid is 00.53 or some shit for anyone under 80, but wven over 80. Flu or covid the mortality rate goes up, and dame goes for those with health issues. You're the clown thinking locking down every few weeks will solve the issue.
Second, the novel virus is more deadly. The proportion of all those infected by Sars-CoV-2 who die of the disease is estimated to have been about 1.1% in a high-income country in the first wave, although the risk in different age groups varies around this average.
Due to improvements in treatment, this rate will be lower in the second wave. In comparison, the World Health Organization states the fatality rate of standard flu is “usually well below 0.1%”, around a tenth as lethal as Sars-CoV-2.
You dont read into studies do you? There was ons a few months ago about 1000 people, 500 infected with covid 500 infected with the flu, 2 people Died both of whome were unvaccinated against the flu, all 500 covid infecties survived (all 500 were vaccinated).I've not said that you oaf, it can't be denied that lockdown in March 2020 prevented people dying and only an idiot would claim otherwise. I don't believe in lockdowns now we have a vaccine.
You can't write off an entire cohort of the population just to make your point. Covid is far more deadly than the flu, some estimates about 10 times more deadly. If flu was as deadly as you've quoted the annual death toll would be horrendous.
COVID-19 vs. the Flu | Johns Hopkins Medicine
Is Covid more deadly and contagious than seasonal flu? | David Spiegelhalter and Anthony Masters | The Guardian
It isnt though, its shown that the flu is like. 00.48% mortality and covid is 00.53 or some shit for anyone under 80, but wven over 80. Flu or covid the mortality rate goes up, and dame goes for those with health issues. You're the clown thinking locking down every few weeks will solve the issue.
You dont read into studies do you? There was ons a few months ago about 1000 people, 500 infected with covid 500 infected with the flu, 2 people Died both of whome were unvaccinated against the flu, all 500 covid infecties survived (all 500 were vaccinated).
You dont read into studies do you? There was ons a few months ago about 1000 people, 500 infected with covid 500 infected with the flu, 2 people Died both of whome were unvaccinated against the flu, all 500 covid infecties survived (all 500 were vaccinated).
And whos fault is that? Not mine or my familys, we're all vaccinated so why should we be locked down over snd over and over?We don’t have anything close to 100% vaccinated. Try again
And whos fault is that? Not mine or my familys, we're all vaccinated so why should we be locked down over snd over and over?
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