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I still fail to understand who you're saying is arguing that people should lose their freedoms. I haven't seen anyone on here advocating mass forced vaccination schemes?
It's for the greater good .
My logic is fine , I'm not asking for people to lose their freedoms
It's for the greater good .
My logic is fine , I'm not asking for people to lose their freedoms
Let me ask this then: why is this vaccine particularly different from the MMR jab, or the Hep C jab?
Why should being unvaccinated be on a level with freedom of religion, race, sexuality, etc as a characteristic protected above norma employment law?
Sorry , but this thinking is gross .
Crack on , you won't change people's minds this way .
Crime will rise , poverty will rise , resentment will take over and its a shitstorm we can't handle
I'm not against the vaccine , I'm against forcing people to have the vaccine .
That won't change whatever shite you throw at me
It is millions? Everybody has been offered a vaccine, millions haven't taken itAgain, a massive stretch here, we're not talking millions, we're talking about a relatively small number of idiots.
It is millions? Everybody has been offered a vaccine, millions haven't taken it
Again, who are these people saying there should be forced vaccinations on here?
I'm not against the vaccine , I'm against forcing people to have the vaccine .
That won't change whatever shite you throw at me
what is the split by age group, anyone know?
There’s that word again “forcing”. Who is forcing anyone?
By your logic you want to force vulnerable people to be exposed to unnecessary risk, and someone in care or hospital has far less choice over where they are than an employee does over where they work.
If you say to your missus “I’m going to leave you unless you stop picking your nose and eating it” are you forcing her to stop or setting boundaries to your continuing involvement in an equal partnership?
Forcing is threatening violence or restrictions of freedom if you don’t comply. Not saying “find another job”.
All adults have been offered a vaccine , every single one .
71% have had 1 jab .
That means that 29% of people offered haven't
7 million behind first jab .62%How many are waiting for the second?
All adults have been offered a vaccine , every single one .
71% have had 1 jab .
That means that 29% of people offered haven't
Yet when asked 90% say they’re happy to have it: Coronavirus and vaccine hesitancy, Great Britain - Office for National Statistics
Which implies it’s a convenience not a moral standpoint issue.
How many are waiting for the second?
bbc says 88% Covid vaccine: How many people in the UK have been vaccinated so far?
By taking freedoms away you are saying comply or else .
Simple logic
It's for the greater good .
My logic is fine , I'm not asking for people to lose their freedoms
Yes, and like was said, this misses out people waiting for the second jab, plus all those who haven't had their slot yet.
You cannot possibly take this information now and extrapolate out that there are 20m+ anti-vaxxers out there.
There aren't 20 million anti vaxxers , but there are definitely millions .
I don't have that info, but surely there can't be that many dickheads in this country?
Well , there are many many people that won't take the vaccine ..
Threats won't change that
But who is actually making threats?
And yes, anti-vaxxers (not just covid vaccine) are dickheads.
But who is actually making threats?
And yes, anti-vaxxers (not just covid vaccine) are dickheads.
Nobody actually , thankfully the government /almost all companies haven't chosen to go down this route so it's all what ifs ..
I know where people stand on here
What have my economic beliefs got to do with basic established rules of society?
you’re saying what? The NHS should change its long established rules on vaccinations for staff? Private businesses should be forced to accept people they see as a health risk even if they think that’s bad for business?
Literally no one is talking about going door to door holding people down and jabbing them so what exactly is your argument?
And hopefully they won't need to because that will mean that the number of people currently vaccinated is enough to get on top of the virus though the way the numbers are going I fear it won't be.
As you well know we won't ever get to 100% probably not even close .
Even 10% of millions is still a huge amount of people .
Hopefully it never comes to what we are bickering about
I can't see Boris Johnson trying to force anyone to do anything
I can't see Boris Johnson trying to force anyone to do anything
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