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clint van damme

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #50,576
Liquid Gold said:
I felt fine after both Pfizer jabs. Just a bit of a dead arm.

I’m not sure that’s a good thing though as my body just accepted it in.
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always wondered this about a hangover, are you better to get them or not?
Is not getting one a sign of your body not even bothering to right itself?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #50,577
Liquid Gold said:
I felt fine after both Pfizer jabs. Just a bit of a dead arm.

I’m not sure that’s a good thing though as my body just accepted it in.
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I felt a little bit odd after my second but nothing major at all

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #50,578
clint van damme said:
always wondered this about a hangover, are you better to get them or not?
Is not getting one a sign of your body not even bothering to right itself?
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I know when I was younger I could shrug them off. Now my entire weekend plus is gone!
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #50,579
fernandopartridge said:
I saw the tweet from his twin sister about it the other day.

I saw this tweet from another person, a vaccine sceptic who had been hospitalised and was deteriorating. I keep looking in and there has been no update which doesn't bode well:

day7heman
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He had asthma
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #50,580
Evo1883 said:
He had asthma
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Who did?

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Evo1883

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #50,581
fernandopartridge said:
Who did?

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The fit and healthy guy in the guardian article.

Which makes it even more ridiculous he refused a vaccine
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #50,582
Evo1883 said:
The fit and healthy guy in the guardian article.

Which makes it even more ridiculous he refused a vaccine
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It’s almost like the crank who told us only 1% of the population are at risk doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #50,583
fernandopartridge said:
I saw the tweet from his twin sister about it the other day.

I saw this tweet from another person, a vaccine sceptic who had been hospitalised and was deteriorating. I keep looking in and there has been no update which doesn't bode well:

day7heman
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It's bollocks mate. It only kills those over 80 or literally about to drop dead anyway.....
 

LastGarrison

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,584
My Missus contracted it from going out for the Euro finals, developed symptoms on the Tuesday and after two negative lateral flow tests one of her mates tested positive so went for a PCR on the Thursday and tested positive (I tested negative).

She is 41 and double jabbed with AZ but three weeks later is still off work and although not in any danger of going into hospital is really struggling. Looks like she has long COVID and just has absolutely no energy.

She is getting migraines, vision blurring etc. which she has never had before and basically just goes through waves of beginning to feel a little better and then just feeling rotten again. Lost her taste and sense of smell and again that comes back a little and then goes again.

Mentally destroying her as well as she can’t see how she ever gets over it.

Honestly, it’s shit and people need to realise that dying isn’t the only thing you need to worry about with this virus.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,585
LastGarrison said:
My Missus contracted it from going out for the Euro finals, developed symptoms on the Tuesday and after two negative lateral flow tests one of her mates tested positive so went for a PCR on the Thursday and tested positive (I tested negative).

She is 41 and double jabbed with AZ but three weeks later is still off work and although not in any danger of going into hospital is really struggling. Looks like she has long COVID and just has absolutely no energy.

She is getting migraines, vision blurring etc. which she has never had before and basically just goes through waves of beginning to feel a little better and then just feeling rotten again. Lost her taste and sense of smell and again that comes back a little and then goes again.

Mentally destroying her as well as she can’t see how she ever gets over it.

Honestly, it’s shit and people need to realise that dying isn’t the only thing you need to worry about with this virus.
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I know a few people who've had similar experiences though they caught it prevaccinne.

Fingers crossed she sees a lasting recovery soon.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,586
clint van damme said:
Fingers crossed she sees a lasting recovery soon.
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Indeed. Probably easier for me to say than her to hear just atm @LastGarrison but thank God she had the vaccine, to take off some of the harshness of it. Guess that stopped you catching it too.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,587
I see it’s being reported that the UK is more than likely going to offer it to children aged 12 plus.
 

LastGarrison

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,588
Deleted member 5849 said:
Indeed. Probably easier for me to say than her to hear just atm @LastGarrison but thank God she had the vaccine, to take off some of the harshness of it. Guess that stopped you catching it too.
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Have been thinking about this and my initial reaction was the same as yours but actually it could just be that obviously the vaccine doesn’t work for her? Which I suppose is even scarier.

Probably completely unrelated but she did feel like shit for a couple of days after her first jab whereas I was completely fine.

Have to say the jab definitely worked for me as I was with not just my Missus but one of the other girls who also tested positive on the Monday and I didn’t get.

Just shows how fucked up this thing is!!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,589
LastGarrison said:
Probably completely unrelated but she did feel like shit for a couple of days after her first jab whereas I was completely fine.
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It had better be unrelated
 
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Marty

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,590
Evo1883 said:
The fit and healthy guy in the guardian article.

Which makes it even more ridiculous he refused a vaccine
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Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,591
LastGarrison said:
My Missus contracted it from going out for the Euro finals, developed symptoms on the Tuesday and after two negative lateral flow tests one of her mates tested positive so went for a PCR on the Thursday and tested positive (I tested negative).

She is 41 and double jabbed with AZ but three weeks later is still off work and although not in any danger of going into hospital is really struggling. Looks like she has long COVID and just has absolutely no energy.

She is getting migraines, vision blurring etc. which she has never had before and basically just goes through waves of beginning to feel a little better and then just feeling rotten again. Lost her taste and sense of smell and again that comes back a little and then goes again.

Mentally destroying her as well as she can’t see how she ever gets over it.

Honestly, it’s shit and people need to realise that dying isn’t the only thing you need to worry about with this virus.
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I have a friend in their 30s who went through this early in jn the pandemic. It did get better but took about 6 months.

Hope she soon feels better mate.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,592
Marty said:
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.
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That he died after refusing a vaccine that most likely would have saved his life?
 

Marty

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,593
skybluetony176 said:
That he died after refusing a vaccine that most likely would have saved his life?
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That he was fit and healthy, he wasn't, if anyone should be having the vaccine, it's people like him.

Like that 34 year old coach who died last week, he was obese, a major risk factor for covid.

If you don't want the vaccine then that's fine, no issues with that, it's your choice, but the way the media reporting all these 'fit and healthy' dieing, they're not healthy people, piss poor reporting from the media.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,594
LastGarrison said:
Have been thinking about this and my initial reaction was the same as yours but actually it could just be that obviously the vaccine doesn’t work for her? Which I suppose is even scarier.

Probably completely unrelated but she did feel like shit for a couple of days after her first jab whereas I was completely fine.

Have to say the jab definitely worked for me as I was with not just my Missus but one of the other girls who also tested positive on the Monday and I didn’t get.

Just shows how fucked up this thing is!!
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Yeah, i keep wondering about whether some people are just more genetically pre-disposed to being ill with it than others as it does seem quite random.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,595
Marty said:
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.
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Asthma is a very common condition and people with it don't consider themselves not fit and healthy
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,596
Marty said:
That he was fit and healthy, he wasn't, if anyone should be having the vaccine, it's people like him.

Like that 34 year old coach who died last week, he was obese, a major risk factor for covid.

If you don't want the vaccine then that's fine, no issues with that, it's your choice, but the way the media reporting all these 'fit and healthy' dieing, they're not healthy people, piss poor reporting from the media.
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12% of the U.K. population has asthma including some famously unfit people like marathon record holder Paula Radcliffe, David Beckham, distance runner Steve Ovett just of the top of my head. It’s idiotic to suggest people aren’t fit and healthy because they have asthma.
 
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Marty

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,597
skybluetony176 said:
12% of the U.K. population has asthma including some famously unfit people like marathon record holder Paula Radcliffe, David Beckham, distance runner Steve Ovett just of the top of my head. It’s idiotic to suggest people aren’t fit and healthy because they have asthma.
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So it's not a risk factor for covid then?
 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,598
Marty said:
That he was fit and healthy, he wasn't, if anyone should be having the vaccine, it's people like him.

Like that 34 year old coach who died last week, he was obese, a major risk factor for covid.

If you don't want the vaccine then that's fine, no issues with that, it's your choice, but the way the media reporting all these 'fit and healthy' dieing, they're not healthy people,
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He was fit and healthy. The entire article is quotes from his family describing how active he was. It’s not like The Guardian are making it up, they’re reporting what his family have said.
 
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RedSalmon

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,599
When this all kicked off (at the time I was working in a hospital and was ward based) there was a lot of talk about there being some kind of genetic link, in as much as how some people got it and some didn't. This seem's to be the case with regard to catching it after being double jabbed, some people get symptom's and some don't.
Am surprised that this has not been researched in more depth.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,600
Marty said:
So it's not a risk factor for covid then?
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Not as much as catching Covid in the first place. It certainly doesn’t have to be either. There also numerous more conditions that are a bigger factor. Many of which you can have and still be fit and healthy with.
 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,601
RedSalmon said:
When this all kicked off (at the time I was working in a hospital and was ward based) there was a lot of talk about there being some kind of genetic link, in as much as how some people got it and some didn't. This seem's to be the case with regard to catching it after being double jabbed, some people get symptom's and some don't.
Am surprised that this has not been researched in more depth.
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The pandemic is probably the biggest, most expensive crises the world has ever faced. Every angle is being researched. Believe it or not science doesn’t tend to overlook things posters on football forums think of.
 
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RedSalmon

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,602
djr8369 said:
The pandemic is probably the biggest, most expensive crises the world has ever faced. Every angle is being researched. Believe it or not science doesn’t tend to overlook things posters on football forums think of.
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Well that's really good to hear, not heard too much about it in the media, unlike just about every other aspect of COVID.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,603
Here’s an evidence review of genetic links to COVID, not smart enough to know what it means mind: Genetic susceptibility of COVID-19: a systematic review of current evidence - PubMed
 
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RedSalmon

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,604
shmmeee said:
Here’s an evidence review of genetic links to COVID, not smart enough to know what it means mind: Genetic susceptibility of COVID-19: a systematic review of current evidence - PubMed
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Much appreciated.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,605
fernandopartridge said:
Asthma is a very common condition and people with it don't consider themselves not fit and healthy
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Yea I mean I have asthma, and you can feel physically fit ..

The problem is it is a respiratory disease and therefore covid will be harder on you.

He had a pre existing condition basically
 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,606
RedSalmon said:
Well that's really good to hear, not heard too much about it in the media, unlike just about every other aspect of COVID.
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Although there’s been a huge amount of information in the media re covid it probably just a summary of the tip of the iceberg.

In any field there are people doing PHDs in the most niche aspect of any specialism you can think of. Especially with something like Covid when it’s almost brought society to a halt globally.
 
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  • Aug 5, 2021
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LastGarrison said:
Have been thinking about this and my initial reaction was the same as yours but actually it could just be that obviously the vaccine doesn’t work for her? Which I suppose is even scarier.

Probably completely unrelated but she did feel like shit for a couple of days after her first jab whereas I was completely fine.

Have to say the jab definitely worked for me as I was with not just my Missus but one of the other girls who also tested positive on the Monday and I didn’t get.

Just shows how fucked up this thing is!!
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The way I look at it is, there was a relatively high %age of hospitalisations with over 40s anyway, and increased with the delta variant. If, whenever the virus gets past the vaccine, it turns the hospitalisations into feeling rough as fuck and awful for a while, the ones who would have been bad into moderate, and the ones who would have been moderate into asymptomatic... then it's doing its job.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 5, 2021
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djr8369 said:
The pandemic is probably the biggest, most expensive crises the world has ever faced.
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Climate change says hello.
 
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  • Aug 5, 2021
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fernandopartridge said:
Asthma is a very common condition and people with it don't consider themselves not fit and healthy
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The givernment also reclassified certain asthmatics, so they no longer had priority for the vaccine. It appears the government considers certain athsmatics to be fit and healthy.
 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 5, 2021
  • #50,610
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Climate change says hello.
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So far.

People think the vaccine will track them, or give them cancer, and that the entire scientific and medical community are lying to them re covid on behalf on “elites” so think we’re fucked with climate change.
 
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