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Johnnythespider

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,761
shmmeee said:
It’s the “reduced efficacy after three months post second jab” but that’s worrying me.

April was “second jab month”, which means efficacy will start dropping for the most vulnerable around August time, which is also when the summer lull starts to end. Just hope we can get boosters out I suppose
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This is why I've left it the full 12 weeks between jabs, get my second next Saturday but was given the chance to change to earlier a couple of weeks ago.
I'd have a jab every month if it beat this thing, would even give it myself like a diabetic does with insulin.
 
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jordan210

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,762
Full thread here. A really interesting and important read


Thread by @sailorrooscout on Thread Reader App

Thread by @sailorrooscout: I figured it was best to make a comprehensive thread concerning the study out of The Lancet concerning variant B.1.617.2 (Delta) after mRNA vaccination to help clear up some confusion. Mo...…
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So basically get your jabs when you are offered them.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,763
Just done a self test at home , and it's negative .
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,764
Going to Lampedusa in July and got to do a PCR test to travel - how bad are they?
 
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SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,765
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Following the science would have been to shut down travel from India as soon as their variant began to run wild
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Yes like I said any government would be going by advice they receive.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,766
From Monday all restrictions here will be lifted apart from mask wearing and social distancing.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,767
It’sabatch87 said:
Yes like I said any government would be going by advice they receive.
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So why didn’t this one?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,768
Sick Boy said:
From Monday all restrictions here will be lifted apart from mask wearing and social distancing.
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Yeah but would you rather live in Italy?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,769
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So why didn’t this one?
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No advice?
 

SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,770
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So why didn’t this one?
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
So why didn’t this one?
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I’m sure ‘Dave’ Starmer would have done it differently.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,771
It’sabatch87 said:
I’m sure ‘Dave’ Starmer would have done it differently.
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Glad we agree!
 

SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,772
PVA said:
Glad we agree!
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So in hindsight what would ‘Dave’ have done differently?
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,773
It’sabatch87 said:
So in hindsight what would ‘Dave’ have done differently?
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What is the Dave thing about?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,774
It’sabatch87 said:
So in hindsight what would ‘Dave’ have done differently?
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Not put the person responsible for the biggest date breach in UK history in charge of track and trace to the tune of 37 billion of taxpayer's money.
Not allowed the Health Secretary to award the landlord of his local a whopping PPE contract.
Not neatly got himself killed shaking hands with covid patients after scientists told him not to.
There's plenty more.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,775
It’sabatch87 said:
I’m sure ‘Dave’ Starmer would have done it differently.
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Not decided a trade deal was more important than stopping a new VOC from being able to to seed itself in the UK
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,776
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Two things happen upon vaccination

First being that masses of antibodies are produced against the antigens the body is exposed to. These on their own are usually enough to suppress an infection, but will not be in the bloodstream forever.

Second is the production of memory cells by the immune system, which stay around for much longer (and are how the childhood jabs you receive e.g. MMR will work). When you get infected some distance down the line these cells go slightly bonkers in producing antibodies in large quantities and at a high rate. As the vaccine programme has only been in effect for 6 months this effect is harder to measure and gather usable data on.

I'll have a look at the longitudinal studies in a bit
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Is antibody response dependent on vaccine or the body?
Skybluefaz said:
What is the Dave thing about?
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It’s like an even worse version of Keith.

No one who support Alexander de Pfiffle Johnson or whatever his name is wants to start pulling at that thread let’s be honest.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,777
It’sabatch87 said:
So in hindsight what would ‘Dave’ have done differently?
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Talking purely about the Indian variant situation he wouldn't have allowed thousands and thousands of people in for weeks all just to appease Modi.

If lockdown is extended beyond 21st June that's purely on Johnson. Will you criticise him for that if it happens?
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,778
shmmeee said:
Is antibody response dependent on vaccine or the body?


It’s like an even worse version of Keith.

No one who support Alexander de Pfiffle Johnson or whatever his name is wants to start pulling at that thread let’s be honest.
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Oh OK, just a bit of witless derision. Was hoping there might be some clever punchline.
 

SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,779
PVA said:
Talking purely about the Indian variant situation he wouldn't have allowed thousands and thousands of people in for weeks all just to appease Modi.

If lockdown is extended beyond 21st June that's purely on Johnson. Will you criticise him for that if it happens?
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Yes totally but I don’t think it will tbh.
The government need to stick to this now and imo if they do and over the summer things improve again it’ll be another 4/5 years of Boris.
Dave Starmer will need to be jumping through hoops to get anywhere near number 10.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,780
It’sabatch87 said:
Yes totally but I don’t think it will tbh.
The government need to stick to this now and imo if they do and over the summer things improve again it’ll be another 4/5 years of Boris.
Dave Starmer will need to be jumping through hoops to get anywhere near number 10.
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Genuinely think there is as much chance of city winning the champions league in the next 5 years as there is Johnson being in charge in 5 years time. Not saying the Tories won't be.
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,781
Skybluefaz said:
Genuinely think there is as much chance of city winning the champions league in the next 5 years as there is Johnson being in charge in 5 years time. Not saying the Tories won't be.
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Really could go in a stellar direction or bomb to a catastrophic nadir.
 

SomersetSB

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,782
Skybluefaz said:
Genuinely think there is as much chance of city winning the champions league in the next 5 years as there is Johnson being in charge in 5 years time. Not saying the Tories won't be.
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My family are Binley kids ex miners and I’d love nothing more than a decent Labour government but I feel they’re just so far out of touch with the working class in lots of areas atm That it’ll be years before we see the likes of Wilson again.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,783
It’sabatch87 said:
I’m sure ‘Dave’ Starmer would have done it differently.
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While I am flattered by you double quoting me what has Starmer got to do with this government’s failings?
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,784
It’sabatch87 said:
My family are Binley kids ex miners and I’d love nothing more than a decent Labour government but I feel they’re just so far out of touch with the working class in lots of areas atm That it’ll be years before we see the likes of Wilson again.
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Well of course the tories have always been the friends of the working man, at least they would be if he could afford £500,000 to buy a seat in the lords.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,785
PVA said:
Talking purely about the Indian variant situation he wouldn't have allowed thousands and thousands of people in for weeks all just to appease Modi.

If lockdown is extended beyond 21st June that's purely on Johnson. Will you criticise him for that if it happens?
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No the Mail and all the other racists will and Indians
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,786
It’sabatch87 said:
My family are Binley kids ex miners and I’d love nothing more than a decent Labour government but I feel they’re just so far out of touch with the working class in lots of areas atm That it’ll be years before we see the likes of Wilson again.
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And you believe this Tory Government is in touch with the working class because....
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,787
6248 isn’t great is it?
 

SomersetSB

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,788
Deleted member 9744 said:
And you believe this Tory Government is in touch with the working class because....
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Labour are no where near???
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,789
It’sabatch87 said:
Labour are no where near???
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That doesn’t answer the question
 

SomersetSB

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,790
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That doesn’t answer the question
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So what will Rodders do differently if the tories are the devil according to you?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,791
It’sabatch87 said:
So what will Rodders do differently if the tories are the devil according to you?
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Not cut the future of several million kids off at the knees and cost the country a couple of trillion quid in lost productivity for a start.
 
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stupot07

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,792

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,793
Right lads shut the fuck up you're going off on a boring political tangent again.


Back to what we think is going to happen please
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,794
It’sabatch87 said:
So what will Rodders do differently if the tories are the devil according to you?
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You do realise I haven't voted Labour since he was leader?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 4, 2021
  • #46,795
Saddlebrains said:
Right lads shut the fuck up you're going off on a boring political tangent again.


Back to what we think is going to happen please
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2 or 3 week extension because Boris didn't want to offend Modi
 
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