Saddlebrains
Well-Known Member
If they delay the 21st June restrictions for this i can actually see riots on the streets. People have had enough now. You cant say vaccines are the way out of it and then do the complete opposite
I think you could have made the 'they couldn't have expected this, get them home' argument a year ago but not now. Anyone travelling to any other part of the world knows perfectly well they're taking a risk. Reading articles like this makes you wonder just what people were thinking.However, a couple of additional points, firstly, what the fuck were people doing travelling to/from india anyway ? Secondly, why weren’t they self isolating for two weeks on return ?
Agree completely and think we should reverse the decision on AZ jabs
I think they are under a certain age aren’t they?I think they should let people decide on the AZ jab, I'd be willing to have it personally.
Interestingly, Blackburn w Darwen which has been heavily hit throughout and now seems to be one of the places hit by the indian variant, has invited all over 18s in certain districts for a vaccine. NHS England pissed off apparently.
Only selfish bastards that probably voted Brexit, whinge at smoking being moved outside public buildings, think refugees should stay in their war torn countries and think Boris speaks for the working classIf they delay the 21st June restrictions for this i can actually see riots on the streets. People have had enough now. You cant say vaccines are the way out of it and then do the complete opposite
Only selfish bastards that probably voted Brexit, whinge at smoking being moved outside public buildings, think refugees should stay in their war torn countries and think Boris speaks for the working class
Lol was on one when I wrote that wasn’t I. What a plonker I amIn which case I guess I’m all of the above. If there were civil disobedience in response to more lockdown I’d support it.
Can't we just agree on the following?!?
If the medical advice, unfiltered, from Whitty and co. is that masks, distancing, and whatever measures are no longer needed come June 21st then we go with it, because they are the experts with ability to interpret, and also have more access to data than the rest of us. This is with the proviso and understanding that there will be outliers who are not safe yet, and others where psychologically, the challenge will be to assimilate.
If the medical advice, unfiltered, from Whitty and co. is that masks, distancing, and whatever measures *are* needed come June 21st then we go with it, because they are the experts with ability to interpret, and also have more access to data than the rest of us. This is with the proviso and understanding that there will be outliers who suffer medically because of that, and others where psychologically, the challenge will be to continue.
Just what is wrong with that?!?
I won’t be best pleased if this delays relaxing of restrictions, the government should 100% have stuck India on the red list a bit sooner
However, a couple of additional points, firstly, what the fuck were people doing travelling to/from india anyway ? Secondly, why weren’t they self isolating for two weeks on return ?
Thankfully, it appears the vaccines work against the Indian variant and we’ve got nearly all high risk double jabbed now (as chart above shows) and over 40s single jabbed, so even if case numbers spike it hopefully shouldn’t translate to increased hospital admissions
Agree with comments about just opening up vaccines to all 18-40 now as well, especially if there are concerns about anticipated lower uptake...as long as that works ok logistically.
Agree and not surprised to see a Tory take the personal responsibility angle
In seriousness though, public health works with the world as it is and should take into account the fact people won’t do as they’re told.
Apparently we have built up several million doses (7m I think?) of Pfizer, for me better to use them in a targeted way now and nip and outbreaks in the bud. But I’ll defer to the vaccine task force as they’ve done an excellent job so far and have earned a bit of latitude.
And so leave the 30-35 as piggy in the middle?
Fucking hell.Astonished at all the lockdown lovers. Get everything open and back to normal!
Fucking hell.
You twat
speak for yourselfThey can have AZ can’t they? That’s why you do U30s now when we’re stocking up anyway IMO.
Someone’s got to be last and as a unique brand of healthy and no social life why not early 30s?
Agree and not surprised to see a Tory take the personal responsibility angle
In seriousness though, public health works with the world as it is and should take into account the fact people won’t do as they’re told.
Apparently we have built up several million doses (7m I think?) of Pfizer, for me better to use them in a targeted way now and nip and outbreaks in the bud. But I’ll defer to the vaccine task force as they’ve done an excellent job so far and have earned a bit of latitude.
speak for yourself
Make sure they keep your second one hanging around, thoughBeen vaccinated mate. Chuck the rest in the bin for all I care.
Can't we just agree on the following?!?
If the medical advice, unfiltered, from Whitty and co. is that masks, distancing, and whatever measures are no longer needed come June 21st then we go with it, because they are the experts with ability to interpret, and also have more access to data than the rest of us. This is with the proviso and understanding that there will be outliers who are not safe yet, and others where psychologically, the challenge will be to assimilate.
If the medical advice, unfiltered, from Whitty and co. is that masks, distancing, and whatever measures *are* needed come June 21st then we go with it, because they are the experts with ability to interpret, and also have more access to data than the rest of us. This is with the proviso and understanding that there will be outliers who suffer medically because of that, and others where psychologically, the challenge will be to continue.
Just what is wrong with that?!?
They can have AZ can’t they? That’s why you do U30s now when we’re stocking up anyway IMO.
Someone’s got to be last and as a unique brand of healthy and no social life why not early 30s?
No it’s now not to be offered to U40s
Because scientists are not controlling the economy - its advice from one end of the spectrum and the hard nosed economist would be the other end. The government have to strike a balance
Been vaccinated mate. Chuck the rest in the bin for all I care.
Don't fancy the full vaccination then?
Sweet more for everyone else
Was talking to someone just yesterday who’s just getting over his second bout of Covid. He caught the second after he’d had his first shot too. Please get the second.Nah, I had antibodies already.
Was talking to someone just yesterday who’s just getting over his second bout of Covid. He caught the second after he’d had his first shot too. Please get the second.
OK I was 39 and 363 days but I got AZ.
Also doesn't help that its pretty easy to buy fake documents. So I bet it would not be hard to buy a PCR test negative certificate in India for a few quid.
There was a flight that went from India to Australia a few weeks ago. All the passengers tested negative before boarding, but when the plane arrived in Australia and they passengers got tested again, around 60 (if I recall) tested positive.
Obviously some really dodgy shit going on there. I'm pretty sure the story has been buried now too. When I searched it another article did show something similar happened on a flight to Italy, but the original story has gone.
Of course banning flights from India was then called racist. Dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.
The media are absolutely flogging "indian mutation" aren't they this week?
Constant news app alerts, get fucked.
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