Also, even when everyone’s vaccinated there’s going to be another 30k deaths minimum. That just goes up the earlier we open.
It’s frustrating as hell, but I still think we’ve got the best mix of vaccine delivery and lockdown on the planet. The Yanks are basically open and are losing 700 people a day still despite being at roughly our levels of vaccination.
Yeah, it's easy to say open up early when you've had a vaccine!Think about it this way, another 2 weeks means another 6/7/8 million jabs and full immunity for the second jabs so far. Hold the course.
Yeah, it's easy to say open up early when you've had a vaccine!
I won't be comfortable doing such things until all people involved have been vaccinated. It's not perfect, so I'd rather depress things down both on my side, and other peoples' side really - as much so I've done as much as I can, and don't finish other people off for the sake of a week or two!Getting contacted by people wanting to do free for all gatherings in June. Good chance I still won’t have immunity by then and Mrs BSB definitely won’t, so we’re declining. Not going to let a last minute COVID infection scupper the wedding.
Good for the huge numbers who are lucky to have had it I suppose
That’s because while the Yanks have very good supply they’ve just distributed it first come first served rather than systematically going down the ages and vulnerabilities. Someone we know over there is 27, perfect health and already had two jabs four weeks apart.
I completely understand the desire to open things up faster but we need to hold our nerve. Every time we've ignored the experts and come out of lockdown earlier than recommended its been a mistake. Lets not blow it now for the sake of a couple of weeks.the roadmaps actually worked a treat so far so why deviate?
With others opening up before us that will just give us more data to look at. How have the US got to this position so quickly? They seemed to be in all sorts of trouble only a few weeks ago. Remember just before Christmas Tennessee was being described as the worst place in the world for covid yet now they have bars, restaurants etc open with no restrictions at all and plans in place for hundreds of thousands to attend a 4th July concert as if covid had never happened.The Yanks are basically open and are losing 700 people a day still despite being at roughly our levels of vaccination.
For instance my quandary is that foreign holidays were permitted last summer, but seemingly still face significant obstruction currently.
Which stance was right or not.
I completely understand the desire to open things up faster but we need to hold our nerve. Every time we've ignored the experts and come out of lockdown earlier than recommended its been a mistake. Lets not blow it now for the sake of a couple of weeks.
With others opening up before us that will just give us more data to look at. How have the US got to this position so quickly? They seemed to be in all sorts of trouble only a few weeks ago. Remember just before Christmas Tennessee was being described as the worst place in the world for covid yet now they have bars, restaurants etc open with no restrictions at all and plans in place for hundreds of thousands to attend a 4th July concert as if covid had never happened.
Heard there are covid marshall jobs in some council area with contracts until 2022. If true, why would they be needed after June 21st?
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It's a global pandemic and you'd be naive to think that after 21st June things will be back to normal.Heard there are covid marshall jobs in some council area with contracts until 2022. If true, why would they be needed after June 21st?
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Because I don’t think society will be 100% unrestricted after that date.
Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?It's a global pandemic and you'd be naive to think that after 21st June things will be back to normal.
Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?
I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do
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Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?
I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do
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Borders will be open and it’s a global pandemic - it’s too early to say things will be under control until we’re into 2022.Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?
I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do
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Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?
I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do
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Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?
I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do
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Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?
I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do
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THIRD jab for ALL over-50s before winter
Early findings from trials have raised hopes in the UK Government that the two approaches can nullify the threat from existing and new variants, it is understood.www.dailymail.co.uk
If true then thats fantastic
Not a good sign
World’s Most Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise
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Not a good sign
World’s Most Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise
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"Coronavirus: Life in UK will 'feel a lot more normal by the summer', says SAGE adviser Neil Ferguson" Life in UK will 'feel a lot more normal by summer', says SAGE expert
I think the 59% of Chinese vaccines will be the issue. As they don't appear to work
Are the current numbers more relevant/accurate?Coventry’s coronavirus rate lowest in months and no deaths in the past week.
As we open up cases are going to continue but it really is deaths that are the telling factor.
So far so good and this is with people loosening up probably ahead of what the government would like.
Wouldn't worry about that in the slightest, they used that shite Chinese vaccine Sinopharm. Something dreadful like 50% efficacy.
Its if Israel goes back into lockdown that we should panic. They've Pfizered and AZ like we have. But at the moment they have basic normality
They don’t understand riskLooks like the Yank progress is slowing and it’s mostly because they’re politicised the vaccine like the giant dumbasses they are.
Why on Earth are we so desperate to copy their politics?
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