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shmmeee

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,611
Don’t know if I’m just paranoid but there’s some global level fuckery going on somewhere. Weird medical agency decisions, threats of blocks, now shortages. All seemingly out of nowhere with vague explanations that make no sense.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,612
It’sabatch87 said:
Another remoaner can’t you just admit that this country have got it right regarding the vaccine roll out and the beloved EU have failed miserably and those countries suspending it will have blood on their hands with the extra deaths?
Macron and Merkel should hold their heads in shame also Van Der Leyen now saying she’ll block the vaccine being delivered to the uk and you all still want to be in the EU club?
Have a word with yourselves!!!
Btw had my first jab today and what a lovely feeling from the woman directing me in the car park to the two ladies in the room one on the pc and the nurse giving me the jab.
Everyone so positive and happy getting things done!!
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everybody's admitted the country has got it right regarding the vaccine.
When are you going to admit the government so many things wrong it has given us one of the worlds highest per capita deaths and a 37 billion track and trace system not fit for purpose?

Over 120k dead, aren't you bothered?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,613
Deleted member 5849 said:
On a general point, I wish I could switch the news off. I've tried avoiding this thread, avoiding news on TV/ radio, but it still creeps through somehow! We certainly get too much information nowadays, and there's always a worry in it. We can't control whatever happens here and, I'd like to know of course if we've cocked up, but until that point it just adds extra worry onto things.

There's something to be said for walking around oblivious until you fall down dead!
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I've turned off all news alerts on my phone, was sending my anxiety through the roof. Don't watch the news either but obviously still see what is being said on here and social media, although I try to stick to my own social media feed and not get lost in trending topics.

Its increasingly difficult to know what sources to trust. Even mainstream, relatively trustworthy, news sources are pushing out leading headlines to try and get clicks.
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,614
clint van damme said:
everybody's admitted the country has got it right regarding the vaccine.
When are you going to admit the government so many things wrong it has given us one of the worlds highest per capita deaths and a 37 billion track and trace system not fit for purpose?

Over 120k dead, aren't you bothered?
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Yes we made mistakes I agree but who knew how do things with the global pandemic it was listen to the scientists week by week
Also yes the track and trace is a joke it never worked ie I went to a pub in Portishead in September and there was no track and trace no masks and no hand gel available at the time.
I also think countries in Europe will overtake us in deaths with their policy atm.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,615
chiefdave said:
I've turned off all news alerts on my phone, was sending my anxiety through the roof. Don't watch the news either but obviously still see what is being said on here and social media, although I try to stick to my own social media feed and not get lost in trending topics.

Its increasingly difficult to know what sources to trust. Even mainstream, relatively trustworthy, news sources are pushing out leading headlines to try and get clicks.
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I trust it, it's just the rush to get the news out first means it's often not the full story.

And that leaves gaps for the mind to play havoc!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,616
It’sabatch87 said:
Glad we could have a fair debate just seems the EU need to realise what their doing by halting the vaccine atm hope they come to their senses nothing against Europe tbh hope we all get vaccinated.
Onwards and upwards Tony!!
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It’s 10 countries in the EU out of 27 that have taken the decision to stop rolling out the Oxford vaccine as is there sovereign right, although I don’t know why they would. The EU is still recommending it’s use. Pfft, facts.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,617
Deleted member 5849 said:
On a general point, I wish I could switch the news off. I've tried avoiding this thread, avoiding news on TV/ radio, but it still creeps through somehow! We certainly get too much information nowadays, and there's always a worry in it. We can't control whatever happens here and, I'd like to know of course if we've cocked up, but until that point it just adds extra worry onto things.

There's something to be said for walking around oblivious until you fall down dead!
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Haha, spot on NW. I try to moderate myself a bit. There has certainly been huge amount of negative info out there in recent months ie just seeing daily ‘death figures’ can’t be particular good for everyone’s mental wellbeing !
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,618
Here we go

 

chiefdave

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,619
David O'Day said:

Covid: NHS warns of 'significant reduction' in vaccines

Local health organisations in England have been told to expect a reduced vaccine supply in April.
www.bbc.co.uk

yep official no new appointments for April it seems
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Bit weird that only this morning they opened up the bookings and now they're saying there's a shortage.
 

shepardo01

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,620
chiefdave said:
Bit weird that only this morning they opened up the bookings and now they're saying there's a shortage.
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Pre-cursor to sowing seeds to further delay easing of restrictions?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,621
If we’re sat around kicking our heels while millions of doses of AZ sit about in US and EU warehouses I will not be fucking happy.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,622
fernandopartridge said:
Here we go

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Love Twitter...everything from its to keep us locked up, to under 60s are refusing to take it, to its because the vaccines are ‘dodgy as fuck and under investigation’

Think the gov has got to come out and communicate the reasons otherwise these rumours will get out of hand. Something has happened in the past 24-48 hours as nhs responders were told that supply would ramp up from this/next week. Hopefully we’re just being overly cautious

ps for those getting concerned about second dose supply, you’d imagine if there was any risk of not fulfilling these within 12 weeks they would have stopped new first doses immediately, not from 1 April (that could be another 4m+ at current rates)
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,623
CCFCSteve said:
Love Twitter...everything from its to keep us locked up, to under 60s are refusing to take it, to its because the vaccines are ‘dodgy as fuck and under investigation’

Think the gov has got to come out and communicate the reasons otherwise these rumours will get out of hand. Something has happened in the past 24-48 hours as nhs responders were told that supply would ramp up from this/next week. Hopefully we’re just being overly cautious

ps for those getting concerned about second dose supply, you’d imagine if there was any risk of not fulfilling these within 12 weeks they would have stopped new first doses immediately, not from 1 April (that could be another 4m+ at current rates)
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They said on the news hancock was asked 4 times at the briefing and skirted the issue before admitting that its likely those in their 40s and definitely in their 30's and before won't get their first vaccines by the end of July as promised.

Opening all of the economy, etc was on the back off all adults being vaccinated by the end of the summer.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,624
stupot07 said:
They said on the news hancock was asked 4 times at the briefing and skirted the issue before admitting that its likely those in their 40s and definitely in their 30's and before won't get their first vaccines by the end of July as promised.

Opening all of the economy, etc was on the back off all adults being vaccinated by the end of the summer.

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I thought he said that they stand by the original deadline of all adults to be offered vaccine by end of July (I’d missed a fair bit of it so I might be wrong but pretty sure that’s what he said)

Edit - just checked, I think I did hear right (from guardian)

‘The British health minister, Matt Hancock, said on Wednesday that the UK was on target to vaccine the top priority groups in the country by 15 April.

‘We’re committed to all adults being able to get the jab by the end of July, and we’re on track to deliver on that commitment,’ he added.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,625
stupot07 said:
They said on the news hancock was asked 4 times at the briefing and skirted the issue before admitting that its likely those in their 40s and definitely in their 30's and before won't get their first vaccines by the end of July as promised.

Opening all of the economy, etc was on the back off all adults being vaccinated by the end of the summer.

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Fuck's sake
 

SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,626
stupot07 said:
They said on the news hancock was asked 4 times at the briefing and skirted the issue before admitting that its likely those in their 40s and definitely in their 30's and before won't get their first vaccines by the end of July as promised.

Opening all of the economy, etc was on the back off all adults being vaccinated by the end of the summer.

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My Mrs sister and brother are both 44 and are going for their first jabs next weds here in Somerset so who do you believe?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,627
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Fuck's sake
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Don’t panic just yet BSB (if Hancocks to be believed ), see my edit
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,628
It’sabatch87 said:
My Mrs sister and brother are both 44 and are going for their first jabs next weds here in Somerset so who do you believe?
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All current slots will be administered. Theyre just saying they won’t book in new first slots for under 50s after 31 March for four weeks
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,629
CCFCSteve said:
Love Twitter...everything from its to keep us locked up, to under 60s are refusing to take it, to its because the vaccines are ‘dodgy as fuck and under investigation’

Think the gov has got to come out and communicate the reasons otherwise these rumours will get out of hand. Something has happened in the past 24-48 hours as nhs responders were told that supply would ramp up from this/next week. Hopefully we’re just being overly cautious

ps for those getting concerned about second dose supply, you’d imagine if there was any risk of not fulfilling these within 12 weeks they would have stopped new first doses immediately, not from 1 April (that could be another 4m+ at current rates)
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The tweeter here is the deputy editor of the HSJ, not some crank
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,630
CCFCSteve said:
Don’t panic just yet BSB, see my edit
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I have seen the caveats Steve just feeling especially tense at the moment. Had another class all sent home because of one case today.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,631
CCFCSteve said:
All current slots will be administered. Theyre just saying they won’t book in new first slots for under 50s after 31 March for four weeks
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I read it as all current slots that had been filled, if you've had an offer but not booked you miss out. Pretty pissed off tbh but not surpised
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,632
Something weird going on here.

Ramp up of supply Monday yet by Wednesday we're going to be in 'significant shortage'
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,633
Is the second dose the same as the first dose??
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,634
Wonder if the EU would sell us back the stuff they don't want
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,635
fernandopartridge said:
The tweeter here is the deputy editor of the HSJ, not some crank
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Sorry, should’ve been clearer, was talking about the comments below his tweet
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,636
Sky Blue Pete said:
Is the second dose the same as the first dose??
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Yes. They have been looking at effects of mixing the doses but at the moment the second is the same as the first.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,637
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I have seen the caveats Steve just feeling especially tense at the moment. Had another class all sent home because of one case today.
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Yeah, I’m not surprised youre feeling tense, think most are. The one thing that was going so well and then this unusual letter

ps wasn’t being sarcastic but the way, it was a genuine ‘don’t panic’ just yet, I know you’ve got wedding plans so hoping there’s no disruption. Fingers crossed mate
 

SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,638
Just watching This morning on catch up and Muslim lady doctor on there said blood clots scaremongering is a load of bollocks
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,639
The cynic in me says the EU have blocked supply but Hancock wont admit it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,640
CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, I’m not surprised another feeling tense, think most are. The one thing that was going so well and then this unusual letter

ps wasn’t being sarcastic but the way, it was a genuine ‘don’t panic’ just yet, I know you’ve got wedding plans so hoping there’s no disruption. Fingers crossed mate
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Totally understand that, and I do completely get that primary manufacture of vaccines and pharmaceuticals can hit technical hitches at any point (spent a good year trying to fix the buggers!). Second doses were always going to have to take priority around now anyway I guess.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,641
Saddlebrains said:
The cynic in me says the EU have blocked supply but Hancock wont admit it.
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I think if that had really happened we'd be shouting it from the rooftops
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,642
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think if that had really happened we'd be shouting it from the rooftops
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So what is it? They need to be transparent here. Social media awash with people panicking. They need to explain
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,643
Saddlebrains said:
So what is it? They need to be transparent here. Social media awash with people panicking. They need to explain
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I strongly expect it's unforeseen technical problems in primary production. The mass production of this one is a bit more prone to such issues than Pfizer's because it involves preparing huge quantities of modified virus as opposed to just the viral genetic code
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,644
Saddlebrains said:
So what is it? They need to be transparent here. Social media awash with people panicking. They need to explain
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Redirect Notice
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Mar 17, 2021
  • #43,645
Grendel said:
Redirect Notice
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I think one thing it does tell us is that the EU became so much more than a trading block and the EU referendum in the UK was about a hell of a lot more than if we would be economically better off or not.
 
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