Chris Whitty talking about a third wave in the summer with more deaths.
How? Most people will be vaccinated.
Utter bullshit.
If you listen to what he’s saying it’s that some won’t be vaccinated and some the vaccine won’t work (it’s not 100% effective). When you consider that only about 30% have been infected for the current death toll, and a first jab is only 70-ish% effective. Until everyone’s had both jabs which isn’t scheduled until the autumn I believe, there’s plenty of scope for more deaths.
If you listen to what he’s saying it’s that some won’t be vaccinated and some the vaccine won’t work (it’s not 100% effective). When you consider that only about 30% have been infected for the current death toll, and a first jab is only 70-ish% effective. Until everyone’s had both jabs which isn’t scheduled until the autumn I believe, there’s plenty of scope for more deaths.
Some of the posts in this thread perfectly illustrate why there is a good chance of another wave. A big chunk of people have got it into their heads that once the vulnerable have had their jab we can all go back to how things used to be.Fucking hell, ignore the chief medical officer's view in favour of gut instinct and Gary down the Oak.
Not to forget that there will continue to be mutations, and these mutations will make the vaccine less effective, then having to wait for an updated vaccine to be made then rolled out.If you listen to what he’s saying it’s that some won’t be vaccinated and some the vaccine won’t work (it’s not 100% effective). When you consider that only about 30% have been infected for the current death toll, and a first jab is only 70-ish% effective. Until everyone’s had both jabs which isn’t scheduled until the autumn I believe, there’s plenty of scope for more deaths.
Not to forget that there will continue to be mutations, and these mutations will make the vaccine less effective, then having to wait for an updated vaccine to be made then rolled out.
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Says it all about the UK. A man wants to help save people and the people stone him.
The 1.7% of the population that has had two jabs are fine thenThat said, and because I’m still massively optimistic and Whittys job is to be cautious and project even more caution:
The 1.7% of the population that has had two jabs are fine then
How did they book you in? Letter or text from your practice? I moved house last year but haven't yet changed practice, I tried to register online for a new one but don't think that worked. Might have to travel for my jab if invited for one.
You want to kill people with the variant that’s here to protect people from a variant that might turn up?
What are you talking about?
The decision to spread the doses out has saved lives. If you want to worry about new strains you’d have to move second doses forward and lose people to the existing strain.
If a strain proven to be resistant to one dose of the vaccine shows up here, then we’d need to lock down again. But we’ve got until the end of the year and there’s plenty of natural breaks and the summer months, plus the really vulnerable will have had two doses by the summer.
The risks are always there, but on current data it’s the right decision.
Viruses mutate,theyve been doing so for decades,so why does the government act like it’s a new phenomenon?
5 weeks away from the first steps towards a bit of ‘normality’ & Whitty blabbering on about yet another possible lockdown before we’ve even got out of this one - never mind the fact the infection & death rates are way below the floor....ridiculous
I think I do as well yet have also questioned the alternative of doing the most active of society IE :- young.I wasn't disputing any of that, I agree with the single dose policy (but think the govt has as ever got the messaging all wrong). The chart you presented was based on efficacy of two doses against the variants hence why I mentioned that only a tiny proportion of the population had, at this point, had two doses.
My GP practice don't have my mobile number and they contacted me via landline.If they don’t have your mobile phone details the chances are you will not be contacted so would need to call or book on the you gov site for a test centre if you receive a letter
Viruses mutate,theyve been doing so for decades,so why does the government act like it’s a new phenomenon?
5 weeks away from the first steps towards a bit of ‘normality’ & Whitty blabbering on about yet another possible lockdown before we’ve even got out of this one - never mind the fact the infection & death rates are way below the floor....ridiculous
They’re not that low
One thing I'd be interested to know from those on here that know about viruses is why the virus doesn't appear to be getting weaker when it mutates?Viruses mutate,theyve been doing so for decades,so why does the government act like it’s a new phenomenon?
Jab done
My GP practice don't have my mobile number and they contacted me via landline.
My GP practice don't have my mobile number and they contacted me via landline.
They’re not that low
They're well below the R rate of 1 which Bojo said was critical at one point
I should hope so or why the hell are we all locked down!
I would be very interested in hearing any educated ideas about this as well.One thing I'd be interested to know from those on here that know about viruses is why the virus doesn't appear to be getting weaker when it mutates?
Everything I read early on said there would be mutations as the virus battles to survive but the mutations were likely to make it more contagious but less dangerous, that doesn't seem to be happening. Seems to be more contagious and as dangerous, if not more dangerous, or is this just the press misrepresenting things?
I would be very interested in hearing any educated ideas about this as well.
One thing I'd be interested to know from those on here that know about viruses is why the virus doesn't appear to be getting weaker when it mutates?
Everything I read early on said there would be mutations as the virus battles to survive but the mutations were likely to make it more contagious but less dangerous, that doesn't seem to be happening. Seems to be more contagious and as dangerous, if not more dangerous, or is this just the press misrepresenting things?
As an aside, and maybe not the best thread to ping someone in(!) but... @Brighton Sky Blue seems to have gone AWOL from mid Feb. Hope he's OK...
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