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David O'Day

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,296
MusicDating said:
All figures still quickly heading in the right direction
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14 to 28 days from today is the big test
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,297
Skybluefaz said:
Just heard Gavin Williamson say that schools will not be closing again


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They never closed in the first place. They stayed open for the children of anybody who didn’t work at a non-essential shop, in the entertainment industry or at a gymnasium.
 
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SG21

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,298
SBAndy said:
Yes, that’s essentially right. Think they have a maximum lifespan of 25 years or something, and if there’s a remaining balance beyond that then it’s written off. It’s treated as a tax rather than a loan, with repayments tied to earnings. Society as a whole benefits from further education so don’t see the real issue with the current setup.
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Ah, that's okay with me then. Thought it was written off after 5 years or something like that.
 
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SG21

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,299
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I agree and it can act as an adjuster. If there are loads of loans remaining unpiad it shows that the education sector isn't providing the skills and employment it's supposed to help towards. This leads to questions being asked as to the validity of some of the courses on offer and how students can be better provided for.
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A good chunk of the courses are always rubbish and offer nothing of worth. They'll do anything for the money. Met a teacher at a uni a few years ago and even she confirmed how they let anyone in. She even told me a story of how two people were failing her course and needed help or they wouldn't make the second year. They failed first year and they seemed confused as they already been told they were in the second year.

She checked her test results for them and someone above her had changed them to passing. Turned out, they had already paid for the course and refusing them would mean giving the money back.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,300
Salaries for nurses take the piss, especially £34k for a fully experienced nurse. As a civil servant, I've had pay rises between 1 to 1.5% in three of the last 9 years, otherwise a pay freeze, and unlike 'front-line' public sector workers most progression pay was removed from the civil service some years ago. However, more than at any other time I hope they get a better reward than what's been offered. They'll be some adjustment from the pay review, by which the Govt will look to save face, but it won't be enough.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,301
dubed said:
Salaries for nurses take the piss, especially £34k for a fully experienced nurse. As a civil servant, I've had pay rises between 1 to 1.5% in three of the last 9 years, otherwise a pay freeze, and unlike 'front-line' public sector workers most progression pay was removed from the civil service some years ago. However, more than at any other time I hope they get a better reward than what's been offered. They'll be some adjustment from the pay review, by which the Govt will look to save face, but it won't be enough.
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Couldn’t agree more
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,302
Don’t get why people are so keen for everyone to earn peanuts. Is it fear they won’t keep up? Surely it’s easier to ask for a raise if everyone else is getting them? And if you own a business surely you want as many potential customers as possible. What’s the logic?
 
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Ian1779

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,303
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shmmeee said:
Don’t get why people are so keen for everyone to earn peanuts. Is it fear they won’t keep up? Surely it’s easier to ask for a raise if everyone else is getting them? And if you own a business surely you want as many potential customers as possible. What’s the logic?
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It feels like equity is more important. If someone gets shit wages, then everyone should.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,304
Ian1779 said:
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It feels like equity is more important. If someone gets shit wages, then everyone should.
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Its nuts. Don’t people want better wages? Do they think wage rises come from benevolent gods and not basic market forces?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,305
dubed said:
Salaries for nurses take the piss, especially £34k for a fully experienced nurse. As a civil servant, I've had pay rises between 1 to 1.5% in three of the last 9 years, otherwise a pay freeze, and unlike 'front-line' public sector workers most progression pay was removed from the civil service some years ago. However, more than at any other time I hope they get a better reward than what's been offered. They'll be some adjustment from the pay review, by which the Govt will look to save face, but it won't be enough.
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For a band five nurse (Staff nurse) the wage is 30k at the top end.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,306

Return to schools could alter Covid roadmap, Boris Johnson warns

PM says reopening will have an impact on coronavirus spread and people must ‘stay at home’
www.theguardian.com
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 8, 2021
  • #43,307
SG21 said:
Ah, that's okay with me then. Thought it was written off after 5 years or something like that.
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The govt effectively writes them off after a few years as they're sold on to private entities. Given that is the case they should be abolished entirely.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,308

Whitty warns 'a lot more people will die' if lockdown is lifted early

Professor Whitty and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance batted away calls for England's lockdown to be loosened sooner now the epidemic has been squashed to pre-second wave levels.
www.dailymail.co.uk

More scaremongering by the Mail this morning.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,309
Ccfcisparks said:

Whitty warns 'a lot more people will die' if lockdown is lifted early

Professor Whitty and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance batted away calls for England's lockdown to be loosened sooner now the epidemic has been squashed to pre-second wave levels.
www.dailymail.co.uk

More scaremongering by the Mail this morning.
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It seems to be quite truthful though. Witty hasn't been that far off with his predictions has he? Again it comes down to acceptable levels of death and that.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,310
Ccfcisparks said:

Whitty warns 'a lot more people will die' if lockdown is lifted early

Professor Whitty and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance batted away calls for England's lockdown to be loosened sooner now the epidemic has been squashed to pre-second wave levels.
www.dailymail.co.uk

More scaremongering by the Mail this morning.
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It isn't scaremongering, for the sake of opening up something up no more than 5 weeks earlier, why would you take the risk?

Isn't only something like 30% or less of the population has even had covid, which means there is very little acquired immunity
 
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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,311
Ccfcisparks said:

Whitty warns 'a lot more people will die' if lockdown is lifted early

Professor Whitty and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance batted away calls for England's lockdown to be loosened sooner now the epidemic has been squashed to pre-second wave levels.
www.dailymail.co.uk

More scaremongering by the Mail this morning.
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What's wrong with that?

Professor Whitty insisted slower was safer when it came to easing the curbs because it gives more time for the vaccine programme to reach younger Brits

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But all the modelling suggests there will be a further surge and that will find the people who either have not been vaccinated, or the vaccine has not worked.

'Some of them will end up in hospital, and sadly some of them will die. And that's just the reality of where we are with the current vaccination.'
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A few weeks is nothing.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,312
At what point is it appropriate to stop announcing a daily death toll on the news etc?

Based on the current roadmap out of lockdown, Id suggest we stop it on 21st June.....seems about right don't ya think?
 
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SG21

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,313
They should keep doing it, but instead of death by corona, it should be death by tory cuts.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,314
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
At what point is it appropriate to stop announcing a daily death toll on the news etc?

Based on the current roadmap out of lockdown, Id suggest we stop it on 21st June.....seems about right don't ya think?
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When the daily number is down to about 50 or so (i.e. around 20k a year equivalent to a bad flu year)?
 
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  • Mar 9, 2021
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fernandopartridge said:
When the daily number is down to about 50 or so (i.e. around 20k a year equivalent to a bad flu year)?
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I'd also like it to carry on for a month or two after restrictions are lifted anyway, to prove that everything is actually OK, and it's the right decision. Send it through to end of September, as the weather worsens and, if all is relatively normal, we can be fairly secure that it's all AOK.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,316
Has the pandemic been squashed to pre second wave levels? Looking at the graph it doesn’t seem that way,
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,317
Just had my jab,

Very efficient, all seemed to run smoothly, the doc vaccinating me (was at my surgery) says he thinks were way ahead of schedule and will have offered all eligible adults a first jab by the first week of June!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,318
Saddlebrains said:
Just had my jab,

Very efficient, all seemed to run smoothly, the doc vaccinating me (was at my surgery) says he thinks were way ahead of schedule and will have offered all eligible adults a first jab by the first week of June!
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Good to hear!

Do you mind if I ask if you’re vulnerable and if not what age bracket you are? Trying to work out how quick they’re getting through it here.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,319
shmmeee said:
Good to hear!

Do you mind if I ask if you’re vulnerable and if not what age bracket you are? Trying to work out how quick they’re getting through it here.
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No problem,

I'm only 30 however I am classed as clinically vulnerable due to my daily usage of steroid inhalers. If I don't take my preventer in the morning I'm on the blue one 2 or t3 times throughout the day due to wheeziness.

Also have a condition (which is quite common and mainly harmless) called ventricular ectopic heartbeats, meaning out of nowhere my heart rhythm will create its own drum and bass rave for a minute or so.


I would urge anyone who uses steroid inhalers regularly ( your preventer, pink or brown inhalers) to make the call and ask, that's what I did
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,320
All over 55s are being offered it now
 
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  • Mar 9, 2021
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Saddlebrains said:
I would urge anyone who uses steroid inhalers regularly ( your preventer, pink or brown inhalers) to make the call and ask, that's what I did
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You don't need to do that, they're getting through that level anyway, whether you ring them up or not.
 
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  • Mar 9, 2021
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As an aside, and maybe not the best thread to ping someone in(!) but... @Brighton Sky Blue seems to have gone AWOL from mid Feb. Hope he's OK...
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,323
Deleted member 5849 said:
As an aside, and maybe not the best thread to ping someone in(!) but... @Brighton Sky Blue seems to have gone AWOL from mid Feb. Hope he's OK...
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Hopefully he’s just working his ass off now the kids are back. Always was more conscientious than @Ian1779
 
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  • Mar 9, 2021
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shmmeee said:
Hopefully he’s just working his ass off now the kids are back. Always was more conscientious than @Ian1779
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Well that was my hope too, as opposed to him being dragged into a pit of despair at the thought...
 

Ian1779

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,325
shmmeee said:
Hopefully he’s just working his ass off now the kids are back. Always was more conscientious than @Ian1779
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Absolutely - though being totally honest a few trips on here throughout the day maintains the sanity!
 
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  • Mar 9, 2021
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Ian1779 said:
Absolutely - though being totally honest a few trips on here throughout the day maintains the sanity!
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Bloody hell, you're in a bad way then!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,327
Saddlebrains said:
No problem,

I'm only 30 however I am classed as clinically vulnerable due to my daily usage of steroid inhalers. If I don't take my preventer in the morning I'm on the blue one 2 or t3 times throughout the day due to wheeziness.

Also have a condition (which is quite common and mainly harmless) called ventricular ectopic heartbeats, meaning out of nowhere my heart rhythm will create its own drum and bass rave for a minute or so.


I would urge anyone who uses steroid inhalers regularly ( your preventer, pink or brown inhalers) to make the call and ask, that's what I did
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How did they book you in? Letter or text from your practice? I moved house last year but haven't yet changed practice, I tried to register online for a new one but don't think that worked. Might have to travel for my jab if invited for one.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,328
fernandopartridge said:
How did they book you in? Letter or text from your practice? I moved house last year but haven't yet changed practice, I tried to register online for a new one but don't think that worked. Might have to travel for my jab if invited for one.
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I literally called my surgery as a friend of mine same age also has quite bad asthma and he had his last week

Just enquired saying im sure i should be due now if asthmatics are being done and they said yep no worries 2.30 tomorrow
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,329
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
At what point is it appropriate to stop announcing a daily death toll on the news etc?

Based on the current roadmap out of lockdown, Id suggest we stop it on 21st June.....seems about right don't ya think?
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I think when it drops to flu levels, the deaths that is .. Which based on 15000 deaths a year is in the region of 50 a day... Then it's all a bit silly announcing it every day.
Otherwise they may aswell do it for the rest of time
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #43,330
Chris Whitty talking about a third wave in the summer with more deaths.

How? Most people will be vaccinated.

Utter bullshit.
 
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