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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,356
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It can mutate in this country as well. I hate working all the time with no light relief either too buddy
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Yeah of course it can. Less risk of other mutations from other countries if we stop pricks needlessly going on holiday.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,357
Nick said:
Yeah of course it can. Less risk of other mutations from other countries if we stop pricks needlessly going on holiday.
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That I agree with
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,358
Nick said:
Yeah of course it can. Less risk of other mutations from other countries if we stop pricks needlessly going on holiday.
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They're stopping them from Monday! Perhaps a tad too late but better late than never
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,359
clint van damme said:
They're stopping them from Monday! Perhaps a tad too late but better late than never
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I’m not sure, why has it taken so long it’s madness
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,360
clint van damme said:
They're stopping them from Monday! Perhaps a tad too late but better late than never
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Should have been done the moment the first lockdown was announced.

Common sense. You couldn't go to your mates house but you could fly abroad and go on holiday with them.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,361
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m not sure, why has it taken so long it’s madness
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Just to clarify they're not stopping them coming to the country but they need 10 day quarantine or a negatives test after 5.
A negative test prior to flying would probably be better
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,362
clint van damme said:
Just to clarify they're not stopping them coming to the country but they need 10 day quarantine or a negatives test after 5.
A negative test prior to flying would probably be better
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Yep
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,363
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m not sure, why has it taken so long it’s madness
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Was alegedely first recommended to the government in February last year, by March even Patel was calling for the borders to be closed with the press reporting she got slapped down by No 10. Even the Daily Mail seemed up for it, perhaps not a surprise they didn't want to let foreigners in! This is from the Mail of March 26th.
Boris Johnson today distanced himself from Home Secretary Priti Patel after she called for the UK borders's to be closed to stop people arriving from coronavirus hotspots.

Downing Street said it was not seeking to seal up Britain's borders in the midst of the pandemic, despite the hardline measure being taken by other nations.
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clint van damme said:
Just to clarify they're not stopping them coming to the country but they need 10 day quarantine or a negatives test after 5.
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You're still allowed to go to your destination in the UK aren't you? They then expect you to quarantine once you get there, again how is that going to be enforced?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,364
Nick said:
Should have been done the moment the first lockdown was announced.

Common sense. You couldn't go to your mates house but you could fly abroad and go on holiday with them.
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They should. But we are where we are. Over 3.5 million people now had their first jab so we're getting there. Just need to hang in for a few more months. Seems an age but it's not.
Nights will start getting lighter soon so that will help.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,365
clint van damme said:
Just to clarify they're not stopping them coming to the country but they need 10 day quarantine or a negatives test after 5.
A negative test prior to flying would probably be better
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Yeah how many will stay in the house for 10 days?

"New mutant from X country"

Rinse and repeat.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,366
chiefdave said:
You're still allowed to go to your destination in the UK aren't you? They then expect you to quarantine once you get there, again how is that going to be enforced?
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Yeah. Come out of Heathrow get on a packed tube then test positive
Too late
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,367
clint van damme said:
Nights will start getting lighter soon so that will help.
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Immensely. Big problem atm is the only way to exercise is take some time out my day and go for a walk, which either doesn't go down well if there are meetings, or means every other bugger is doing the same in short days. Stay light until 9pm, and it's so much easier to stay / get fit, and everything looks so much better, anyway!

Oh, I must be pedantic and point out the nights are getting lighter already
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,368
Deleted member 5849 said:
Immensely. Big problem atm is the only way to exercise is take some time out my day and go for a walk, which either doesn't go down well if there are meetings, or means every other bugger is doing the same in short days. Stay light until 9pm, and it's so much easier to stay / get fit, and everything looks so much better, anyway!

Oh, I must be pedantic and point out the nights are getting lighter already
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Walk at night time
less people around too.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,369
Nick said:
May as well just ask hang ourselves now or lock ourselves up apart from work forever.

Or maybe we can stop cunts coming in from abroad completely to bring it in if it's from abroad.
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If the virus only impacted under 50s with severity would you accept you’d need to lock yourself away
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,370
The Brazil flight thing is a bit of nonsense. I’ve been 4 times and never direct but via France and the Netherlands m

I try and be fair but there isn’t a chance we could have locked borders in March and still have them locked the following January
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,371
stupot07 said:
A colleague whos in their 50s got it before Xmas, and is still off work with it because of the damage its done, they weren't even hospitalised.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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A girl at my place has been off since September with it. She returns next month. She's 35.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,372
Just reading about 62 year old receptionist in the nhs. Died a week after contracting it
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,373
Grendel said:
If the virus only impacted under 50s with severity would you accept you’d need to lock yourself away
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I'm locked away anyway....
 

TTG

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,374
Reading the first page of the thread makes me chuckle!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,375
TTG said:
Reading the first page of the thread makes me chuckle!
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Read the first 10 recently
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,376
Nick said:
I'm locked away anyway....
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You’re going to work every day and hanging out at the supermarket more than Dale Winton.
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,377
Grendel said:
If the virus only impacted under 50s with severity would you accept you’d need to lock yourself away
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Spoke to a friend who's a senior consultant in a London hospital yesterday.
She said nearly 30% of those currently hospitalised in London are under 55. A big increase to the percentage she said she was seeing earlier.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #40,378
Grendel said:
We’ve had more Covid outbreaks at work and tracing the source back its - surprise surprise - people well under 70 flouting any guidance whatsoever
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Aren’t you flouting the guidance by going in when you’re not required to?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,379
Not trying to scare folk here but we must remember we have played hard and fast here with people's health,not having a clue about any consequences.
Having had pneumonia as a tot , I can say from experience I haven't been too greatly impacted apart from latter life.
I have though suffered a plethora of fairly regular infection through the course of a lifetime, some pretty rough.
Here's the article.


Proof that fit and young Covid victims can get lifelong lung damage

Chest X-ray scans have revealed that, where the images should be black, indicating healthy air-filled tissue, in many cases there was a white mist described as resembling 'ground glass'.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,380
SBT said:
Aren’t you flouting the guidance by going in when you’re not required to?
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No
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,381
SBT said:
You’re going to work every day and hanging out at the supermarket more than Dale Winton.
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Woopie doo, somebody drives to work and back.

Living the dream.
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,382
Nick said:
Woopie doo, somebody drives to work and back.

Living the dream.
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He would congratulate you if you went out to get a takeaway meal though.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,383
Grendel said:
No
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You telling me it’s impossible to do your job from home? I thought you worked in Marketing.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,384
shmmeee said:
You telling me it’s impossible to do your job from home? I thought you worked in Marketing.
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A vegetable seller?
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,385
chiefdave said:
Was alegedely first recommended to the government in February last year, by March even Patel was calling for the borders to be closed with the press reporting she got slapped down by No 10. Even the Daily Mail seemed up for it, perhaps not a surprise they didn't want to let foreigners in! This is from the Mail of March 26th.


You're still allowed to go to your destination in the UK aren't you? They then expect you to quarantine once you get there, again how is that going to be enforced?
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My recollection was a bit different and as I’ve said before if anyone’s not seen it the lockdown doc on bbc is well worth a watch as it’s interviewing SAGE/Nervtag scientific advisors who admit some of the stuff they just got wrong (understandable in unprecedented times)

Bit long but this is interesting and details the advice around borders (even mentions Liverpool’s match/large live events at start of March) . There’s no doubt mistakes were made but by and large the government, rightly or wrongly appears to have followed the scientific advice at the time

Home Office preparedness for COVID-19 (coronavirus): management of the borders - Home Affairs Committee - House of Commons

publications.parliament.uk

The documentary supports that. Basically the view that if the virus is here it’s here (which was probably Dec/Jan). Closing borders totally, especially from certain European nations would slow the spread but a lot of the other stuff ie temp checks on arrival etc etc, don’t really have much benefit.

It sounds like stronger enforcement of quarantine etc at the time would’ve given NHS more time to prepare but not sure it would have eradicated/majorly suppressed the virus in the longer term, unless there are only relatively few numbers of cases here and you keep borders shut.In the early days the major challenge would be the vast numbers of U.K. nationals/residents returning from especially Europe which is hard to control/monitor, not stopping ‘foreigners’ coming here

Ps sorry for the long post !!!
 
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SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,386
shmmeee said:
You telling me it’s impossible to do your job from home? I thought you worked in Marketing.
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I’m sure he posted previously that he was one of the only ones within the company with the ability to work from home but chose not to.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,387
SBAndy said:
I’m sure he posted previously that he was one of the only ones within the company with the ability to work from home but chose not to.
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Grendal in lying shocker
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,388
If only we hadn’t had enough of experts

 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,389
CCFCSteve said:
My recollection was a bit different and as I’ve said before if anyone’s not seen it the lockdown doc on bbc is well worth a watch as it’s interviewing SAGE/Nervtag scientific advisors who admit some of the stuff they just got wrong (understandable in unprecedented times)

Bit long but this is interesting and details the advice around borders (even mentions Liverpool’s match/large live events at start of March) . There’s no doubt mistakes were made but by and large the government, rightly or wrongly appears to have followed the scientific advice at the time

Home Office preparedness for COVID-19 (coronavirus): management of the borders - Home Affairs Committee - House of Commons

publications.parliament.uk

The documentary supports that. Basically the view that if the virus is here it’s here (which was probably Dec/Jan). Closing borders totally, especially from certain European nations would slow the spread but a lot of the other stuff ie temp checks on arrival etc etc, don’t really have much benefit.

It sounds like stronger enforcement of quarantine etc at the time would’ve given NHS more time to prepare but not sure it would have eradicated/majorly suppressed the virus in the longer term, unless there are only relatively few numbers of cases here and you keep borders shut.In the early days the major challenge would be the vast numbers of U.K. nationals/residents returning from especially Europe which is hard to control/monitor, not stopping ‘foreigners’ coming here

Ps sorry for the long post !!!
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The other half of a zero COVID strategy is a lockdown far tougher than we’ve ever had here for a month or two.

Having seen what I have I’m honestly not sure that’s possible here. Which...raises some questions.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #40,390
Grendel said:
No
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What did you mean by this then?
Grendel said:
I’ve worked pretty much all through it. I don’t have to go in but I choose to and I believe it’s a risk worth taken as being stuck in home would drive me insane
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