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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,181
hill83 said:
Nice, I can use my food vouchers in those.
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No. You will get a government approved hamper of toys and BDSM gear from a private contractor. Not exchangeable for cash
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,182
New variant this, new variant that.

It's taking the fucking piss now. Going to be locked down forever while some of the oaps we are meant to be protecting are living the same normal life.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,183
Nick said:
Going to be locked down forever while some of the oaps we are meant to be protecting are living the same normal life.
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This is an interesting thread on compliance with the regulations. Probably isn't going to calm you down much reading it

 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,184
Carl Heneghan is a weird case. An example in some one so highly thought of professionally can then destroy their reputation by clinging on to an obviously flawed idea instead of just admitting you have changed your mind in the face of new evidence.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,185
chiefdave said:
This is an interesting thread on compliance with the regulations. Probably isn't going to calm you down much reading it


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If old people / people at high risk want to go to the shops and socialise then they should sign a disclaimer.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,186
clint van damme said:
Crack den, sex dungeon etc
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Yeah where are the FSM parents are cashing in their vouchers...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,187
Nick said:
New variant this, new variant that.

It's taking the fucking piss now. Going to be locked down forever while some of the oaps we are meant to be protecting are living the same normal life.
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I feel that way a lot at the moment. I wouldn’t make vaccination optional, people should be able to choose how it’s received but not whether to decline it
 

Ian1779

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,188
Nick said:
New variant this, new variant that.

It's taking the fucking piss now. Going to be locked down forever while some of the oaps we are meant to be protecting are living the same normal life.
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The latest one is Brazil isn’t it. Guess I won’t be able to book that Holiday Village Rio de Janiero on Tui anymore.
 

AOM

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,189
clint van damme said:
Crack den, sex dungeon etc
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Oooh new ground announcement?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,190
AOM said:
Oooh new ground announcement?
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I thought Millwall played at the Crack Den?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,191
David O'Day said:
Carl Heneghan is a weird case. An example in some one so highly thought of professionally can then destroy their reputation by clinging on to an obviously flawed idea instead of just admitting you have changed your mind in the face of new evidence.
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I can't help but think he and others are on a payroll. That said, he's 'only' a GP isn't he? His Centre for Evidence Based Medicine looks to be a bit of a joke, he's ignored copious evidence only selecting information that fits his narrative.

Edit - he is an epidemiologist according to wiki.
 

Nick

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,192
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I feel that way a lot at the moment. I wouldn’t make vaccination optional, people should be able to choose how it’s received but not whether to decline it
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If they don't have it they give up their right to a bed if they need it.

Let's face it, statistics say that the vast majority won't even be hospitalised if they get covid. How about the at risk people of being hit hard by it don't leave their fucking house, don't have people round etc then it's pretty much impossible for them to get it anyway.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,193
Good news and only right in my opinion

Tens of thousands of small businesses are set to receive insurance payouts covering losses in the first national lockdown, following a court ruling.

The Supreme Court found in favour of small firms receiving payments from business interruption insurance policies.

For some, it could provide the lifeline allowing them to trade beyond the coronavirus crisis.

The ruling could cost the insurance sector hundreds of millions of pounds.

In the lockdown of last spring, many small businesses made claims through these insurance policies for loss of earnings when they had to close.

But many insurers refused, arguing only the most specialist policies had cover for such unprecedented restrictions.

It was agreed that a selection of policy wordings be tested in court, setting the parameters for a valid claim.

The Supreme Court dismissed the insurers' appeals.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,194
Nick said:
If they don't have it they give up their right to a bed if they need it.

Let's face it, statistics say that the vast majority won't even be hospitalised if they get covid. How about the at risk people of being hit hard by it don't leave their fucking house, don't have people round etc then it's pretty much impossible for them to get it anyway.
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Yep that’s the barrington declaration argument. Problem is when they do they might get it
 

Nick

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,195
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep that’s the barrington declaration argument. Problem is when they do they might get it
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Let them get it then.

The massive majority of the country is locked down to protect the small minority of people who would be hospitalised by COVID. The strictest lockdown measures should have been on them all along.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,196
Nick said:
Let them get it then.

The massive majority of the country is locked down to protect the small minority of people who would be hospitalised by COVID. The strictest lockdown measures should have been on them all along.
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4.46 million people are waiting for routine appointments and operations because we are having to deal with Covid in hospital. I understand the frustration and I think those that signed the barrington declaration agree with you and lost didn’t want to see herd immunity or lots of death just shielding of the vulnerable and keeping the economy open. I still think they are you are wrong but I understand it more
 

Nick

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,197
Sky Blue Pete said:
4.46 million people are waiting for routine appointments and operations because we are having to deal with Covid in hospital. I understand the frustration and I think those that signed the barrington declaration agree with you and lost didn’t want to see herd immunity or lots of death just shielding of the vulnerable and keeping the economy open. I still think they are you are wrong but I understand it more
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It's alright going on about the deadly virus killing everybody but how many are just because everything else is going unnoticed while everything is covid?

Get everything covid in those nightingale hospitals, have normal hospitals back to as normal as possible.

Let people go about their life as normal as possible.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,198
Nick said:
but how many are just because everything else is going unnoticed while everything is covid?
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Less than if there were no restrictions in place.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,199
Deleted member 5849 said:
Less than if there were no restrictions in place.
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Yep I think coldly, dispationately and unemotively that’s absolutely right
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,200
Skybluefaz said:

Respect to this guy for calling out the shit peddlers.
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He’s the first Tory I’ve been impressed with since Rory Stewart.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,201
Nick said:
It's alright going on about the deadly virus killing everybody but how many are just because everything else is going unnoticed while everything is covid?

Get everything covid in those nightingale hospitals, have normal hospitals back to as normal as possible.

Let people go about their life as normal as possible.
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A hospital without staff is just a building. The NHS was already understaffed and its even worse with self isolation now.

I get you’re frustrated but this really is the only way until we’ve got herd immunity. Giving up now could lead to more mutations and an ineffective vaccine and this crap forever.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,202
Deleted member 5849 said:
Less than if there were no restrictions in place.
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This too. Let COVID run rampant and hospitals will be overrun and no one gets the care they need.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,203
shmmeee said:
A hospital without staff is just a building. The NHS was already understaffed and its even worse with self isolation now.

I get you’re frustrated but this really is the only way until we’ve got herd immunity. Giving up now could lead to more mutations and an ineffective vaccine and this crap forever.
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So if there was billions to build them, staff them too.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,204
Nick said:
So if there was billions to build them, staff them too.
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You can't just pluck trained medical staff out of thin air though.
Even in hospitals they are using non ICU specialist nurses because there aren't enough specialist nurses to go round and they're having to treat 3 patients per nurse when it's usually one on one.

The underfunding chickens are coming home to roost unfortunately.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,205
shmmeee said:
A hospital without staff is just a building. The NHS was already understaffed and its even worse with self isolation now.

I get you’re frustrated but this really is the only way until we’ve got herd immunity. Giving up now could lead to more mutations and an ineffective vaccine and this crap forever.
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I do think those for whom the bulk of society is making considerable sacrifices and adjustments should reconsider just going on jollies in the park and on the bus. Whenever I was going to school it was full of pensioners and it was hard not to be annoyed at least a bit.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,206
Heneghan has gone pretty quiet on Twitter in any case
Nick said:
It's alright going on about the deadly virus killing everybody but how many are just because everything else is going unnoticed while everything is covid?

Get everything covid in those nightingale hospitals, have normal hospitals back to as normal as possible.

Let people go about their life as normal as possible.
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You obviously have no understanding of the type of care somebody with covid or any other respiratory illness might need. The Nightingales are not built for it.
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,207
fernandopartridge said:
Heneghan has gone pretty quiet on Twitter in any case


You obviously have no understanding of the type of care somebody with covid or any other respiratory illness might need. The Nightingales are not built for it.
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So what are they built for?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,208
Nick said:
So what are they built for?
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I've posted before, they're for step down care from ICU, for people to die or people otherwise fit to be released.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,209
My mum has her appointment for her first shot a week Monday at Coventry and NW cricket club. She is cat 3 so they seem to be getting through this at a decent rate
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,210
Mark DrakefordPA MediaCopyright: PA Media
There is “significant evidence” of coronavirus transmission in supermarkets, Wales' first minister has said.

Mark Drakeford announced stricter rules for shops at a press conference in Cardiff and said Wales' Test, Trace and Protect scheme showed there was “no doubt at all” that transmission was taking place in stores.

He added that while "the majority of supermarkets have worked very hard" to make their shops "as safe as possible", the visible signs of protection "have been reduced" compared to last spring.

Drakeford said it was the "responsibility of owners and managers" to make sure stricter measures were followed.

He also said the current restrictions in Wales would be reviewed on 29 January, adding that if things "continue to head in the right direction" ministers would consider whether "to begin the process of lessening the current level of restrictions".

There may be "marginal easements" to coronavirus rules in Wales if rates continue to fall, he said.

Don’t see how Hancock and johnson can claim the measure are proportionate and the only problem is people not following them. In fact we all know it’s a crock of shit
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,211
Stark

Covid-19: 'One medic saw eight people die in a single shift'

A therapist who arranges free mental health help for NHS workers says many are at "breaking point".
www.bbc.co.uk
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,212
Sky Blue Pete said:
Stark

Covid-19: 'One medic saw eight people die in a single shift'

A therapist who arranges free mental health help for NHS workers says many are at "breaking point".
www.bbc.co.uk
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stark but when you see stories like that please remember this can happen on shifts in normal times. an aunt once saw 7 people die on one shift at the old gulson road hospital
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,213
David O'Day said:
My mum has her appointment for her first shot a week Monday at Coventry and NW cricket club. She is cat 3 so they seem to be getting through this at a decent rate
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There are still frontline nurses who haven’t had it yet.
 

hill83

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,214
Nick said:
So if there was billions to build them, staff them too.
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sORt It RoBbiNgS
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #40,215
Nick said:
So if there was billions to build them, staff them too.
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With who?
 
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