Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (103 Viewers)

Philosoraptor · Mar 18, 2020

If it hasn't been mentioned, schools etc are to close at the end of the week.

Looks like the country is going into lockdown for a month or two...

And the worst thing is everyone can only buy 3 tubs of taramasalata from the supermarkets now.

This is nowhere near enough for a panic.

Johhny Blue · Mar 18, 2020

cc84cov said:
111 pages of people arguing with Grendel

Listen. Just hear him out.

Grendel · Mar 18, 2020

clint van damme said:
here's to a bright new dawn Pete - whatever you do next.

I was unclear if he’s facing redundancy but this is why the strategy is a failure. It’s going to be like that Will Smith movie in reverse. The population is still alive but their is an economic Armageddon of no demand, no work and no prospect of work - it’s pie in the sky thinking

SkyBlueDom26 · Mar 18, 2020

Philosorapter said:
If it hasn't been mentioned, schools etc are to close at the end of the week.

Looks like the country is going into lockdown for a month or two...

And the worst thing is everyone can only buy 3 tubs of taramasalata from the supermarkets now.

This is nowhere near enough for a panic.

Yep, just been given a laptop and phone to start working from home! This situation is surreal, i still can't get my head around it

Johhny Blue · Mar 18, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yep, just been given a laptop and phone to start working from home! This situation is surreal, i still can't get my head around it

It's not that bad, you just start by plugging it in

Ring Of Steel · Mar 18, 2020

Philosorapter said:
If it hasn't been mentioned, schools etc are to close at the end of the week.

Looks like the country is going into lockdown for a month or two...

And the worst thing is everyone can only buy 3 tubs of taramasalata from the supermarkets now.

This is nowhere near enough for a panic.

Is that England too about the schools?

SkyBlueDom26 · Mar 18, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
It's not that bad, you just start by plugging it in

How's Canada pal? Are you having to work from home?

SkyBlueDom26 · Mar 18, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
Is that England too about the schools?

Yeah 5 tonight its being announced

Philosoraptor · Mar 18, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
Is that England too about the schools?

It's due to be announced later on today,

Liquid Gold · Mar 18, 2020

There are so many people from the office that are isolating because of symptoms, we never have this many people off with flu. Made me think if loads of us have it and just don't realise it. Lead me to this

NPR Choice page

"In 80% of known cases, COVID-19 causes mild to moderate illness, according to a report of a joint World Health Organization-China mission of 25 infectious disease experts held in China late last month.

At a press conference on March 9, Maria Van Kerkhove, technical lead of the WHO Health Emergencies Program, said: "[A] mild infection starts normally with a fever, although it may take a couple of days to get a fever. You will have some respiratory symptoms; you have some aches and pains. You'll have a dry cough. This is what the majority of individuals will have."

It is "nothing that will make you feel like you need to run to a hospital," says Dr. Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security."

Philosoraptor · Mar 18, 2020

Of course the best solution is going to be to introduce the kids to your work at home and say it's the new latest game out.

Ring Of Steel · Mar 18, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yeah 5 tonight its being announced

So much for the experts on here saying "no rush, they're waiting for the right time"- seems reality has well and truly smacked them between the eyes & all pretence of being smarter than everyone else in the world has now evaporated.

No matter what you're read or heard in the last couple of weeks, nothing could prepare you for all this, its so weird.

SkyBlueDom26 · Mar 18, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
So much for the experts on here saying "no rush, they're waiting for the right time"- seems reality has well and truly smacked them between the eyes & all pretence of being smarter than everyone else in the world has now evaporated.

No matter what you're read or heard in the last couple of weeks, nothing could prepare you for all this, its so weird.

The only thing im worried about is all of this works, the cases drop and therefore the lock down is lifted... could it then all start to spread again? Thats the worry in china another outbreak..

Seems like until we get a vaccine it won't be sorted out at all

Ring Of Steel · Mar 18, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
The only thing im worried about is all of this works, the cases drop and therefore the lock down is lifted... could it then all start to spread again? Thats the worry in china another outbreak..

Seems like until we get a vaccine it won't be sorted out at all

You might be right, to be honest all I want to do is get this week out the way and regroup

Ring Of Steel · Mar 18, 2020

Grendel said:
I was unclear if he’s facing redundancy but this is why the strategy is a failure. It’s going to be like that Will Smith movie in reverse. The population is still alive but their is an economic Armageddon of no demand, no work and no prospect of work - it’s pie in the sky thinking

I didn't get that from Men In Black, must rewatch.

Philosoraptor · Mar 18, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
The only thing im worried about is all of this works, the cases drop and therefore the lock down is lifted... could it then all start to spread again? Thats the worry in china another outbreak..

Seems like until we get a vaccine it won't be sorted out at all

This seems to be the issue at the moment..

I can see the lockdown going on for a while whilst the country goes through its very own, "28 Days Later".

Liquid Gold · Mar 18, 2020

I'm getting more done at home I think

shmmeee · Mar 18, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
The only thing im worried about is all of this works, the cases drop and therefore the lock down is lifted... could it then all start to spread again? Thats the worry in china another outbreak..

Seems like until we get a vaccine it won't be sorted out at all

That’s essentially the plan. Once NHS capacity is there relax the lockdown until it starts to struggle again. If you look at the legislation going through Parliament it specifically mentions these powers will be turned on and off according to need.

wingy · Mar 18, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
So much for the experts on here saying "no rush, they're waiting for the right time"- seems reality has well and truly smacked them between the eyes & all pretence of being smarter than everyone else in the world has now evaporated.

No matter what you're read or heard in the last couple of weeks, nothing could prepare you for all this, its so weird.

Tbf schools were warned two weeks ago that this may be the day.

Philosoraptor · Mar 18, 2020

shmmeee said:
That’s essentially the plan. Once NHS capacity is there relax the lockdown until it starts to struggle again. If you look at the legislation going through Parliament it specifically mentions these powers will be turned on and off according to need.

I think we are around 8 or 9 days behind Italy etc for rate of spreading across the society.

SkyBlueDom26 · Mar 18, 2020

shmmeee said:
That’s essentially the plan. Once NHS capacity is there relax the lockdown until it starts to struggle again. If you look at the legislation going through Parliament it specifically mentions these powers will be turned on and off according to need.

Scary, we need to hurry the Vaccine up and fast

tisza · Mar 18, 2020

The capital and interest payment obligations of individuals and companies to date are suspended at the end of the year.
Short-term business loans will be extended until July 30.
The APR on new consumer loans taken from tomorrow will be maximized by the central bank base rate plus 5 percent.
Sectors that are in serious trouble, such as tourism, hospitality, entertainment, sport, cultural services, passenger transport, or taxis, completely relieve employers of their contribution. Employees' contributions are significantly reduced. They do not have to pay pension contributions and the health insurance premium is reduced to the statutory minimum by June 30. According to KATA, taxpayers who pay tax will be relieved of their lump sum payment obligations until June 30. In these sectors, room leases cannot be terminated and rents cannot be increased. Until June 30, the tourism development contribution will also be released.
Working rules are made more flexible so that employers and employees can agree more easily.

Hungarian PM just announced proper economic help for many businesses and individuals.
Means I won't have to make any redundancies, workers net income will remain roughly same but their mortgage, bank loan, credit payments suspended. Employee contributions minimized.
Tenants rights protected for those in "at risk" sectors.
Self-employed have a tax holiday at least until end of June.
This is how you help business at this time. (shame he's an authoritarian despot but can't have everything )

SkyBlueDom26 · Mar 18, 2020

London set to go into Lock down in the coming days, going to be in the emergency legislation today

London braces for lockdown as Government prepares emergency Coronavirus Bill

Johhny Blue · Mar 18, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
How's Canada pal? Are you having to work from home?

I normally work from home. Just not all day every day. We have only 3 cases in our "Area" (Probably twice the size of U.K.) at the moment but we're similar to you, no pubs schools churches open and more businesses closing daily. Seniors only shopping in the supermarkets from 7-8 a.m. etc etc.
I'm down to my last 137 bog rolls

David O'Day · Mar 18, 2020

Philosorapter said:
I think we are around 8 or 9 days behind Italy etc for rate of spreading across the society.

No we ate not

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Philosoraptor · Mar 18, 2020

David O'Day said:
No we ate not

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Has anyone posted the latest figures?

Ring Of Steel · Mar 18, 2020

Philosorapter said:
Has anyone posted the latest figures?

2,626 cases I think. I don't know what that means in terms of increases, I would ask someone to explain the figures- but if they do our resident self appointed medical experts seem to get all hot under the collar and deny anything is real.

SkyBlueDom26 · Mar 18, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
2,626 cases I think. I don't know what that means in terms of increases, I would ask someone to explain the figures- but if they do our resident self appointed medical experts seem to get all hot under the collar

Hopefully these new measures will catch it early, its mad to think we were going to do what we are now in the next few weeks.. im glad were doing it now as the peak is coming

Philosoraptor · Mar 18, 2020

This one as well is important.

The whole thread on Twitter deserves attention.

SkyBlueDom26 · Mar 18, 2020

Philosorapter said:

USA looks worrying from that

David O'Day · Mar 18, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
USA looks worrying from that

That's the same graph and thread that has been disproven many times already

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shmmeee · Mar 18, 2020

Philosorapter said:
This one as well is important.

The whole thread on Twitter deserves attention.

No! You’ll wake Grendel!!

David O'Day · Mar 18, 2020

Anyone anyone actually read why he is using a logarithmic scale? He says it shows his preconceived point than a linear scale.

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clint van damme · Mar 18, 2020

Grendel said:
I was unclear if he’s facing redundancy but this is why the strategy is a failure. It’s going to be like that Will Smith movie in reverse. The population is still alive but their is an economic Armageddon of no demand, no work and no prospect of work - it’s pie in the sky thinking

I thought Pete was facing redundancy already.
I took the post to mean with unforeseen shut down that's probably the end of his current career.

David O'Day · Mar 18, 2020

Grenners is talking nonsense about the economic future of the uk as well. Luckily the government will be forced to take demand side action.

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