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bezzer

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,121
robbiekeane said:
Wait accommodation is closed? So I can’t get a hotel in Warwickshire? What about airbnb?
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Nope. No hotels, B&Bs or Airbnb open.
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,122
bezzer said:
Nope. No hotels, B&Bs or Airbnb open.
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Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
 
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SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,123
Brighton Sky Blue said:
His idea of election campaigning was baking pies and hiding in a fridge, it was kind of a clue
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And knocking a polystyrene wall down in a forklift truck
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,124
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Odds on them fucking up the vaccine distribution?
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Hopefully the NHS will do it and not one of their cronies.
 
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RedSalmon

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,125
No doubt they will organise a major news story to break later today or tomorrow to completely distract the nation form this shitfest and take the heat out of it for them.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,126
RedSalmon said:
No doubt they will organise a major news story to break later today or tomorrow to completely distract the nation form this shitfest and take the heat out of it for them.
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Will probs approve the vaccine
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,127
I’ve been in west Cornwall since before lockdown with the in-laws. May as well stay here if it means I can go to the pub.
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,128
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Odds on them fucking up the vaccine distribution?
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Brexit is not going to help with that. The Oxford one hopefully will be fine
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,129
RedSalmon said:
Have really tried to give this government the benefit of the doubt up to now, as managing a nation through a pandemic cannot be an easy thing to do, but the amount of complete and utter fuck ups they have managed to deliver to the nation, time after time, knows no limits, and shows no signs of improving any time soon.
Have lost faith in their ability to govern the country in any way shape or form. I genuinely worry about the distribution of the vaccine with this bunch of arseholes in charge!!
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The bit that really gets me is their clear inability through ignorance and cronyism to not learn from their mistakes. To get something wrong once in uncharted waters is to a certain degree forgivable but to keep repeating the same mistakes is something else.
Look at how well testing, tracking and tracing has worked in Liverpool when the local authorities take over. Yet they keep spaffing billions on Dido’s track and trace and private testing.
I heard on the radio today that not only is Dido’s track and trace only contacting about 50% of the people that they need to trace the vast majority of those are people from the same household as the person who tested positive. In essence I test positive and they ring my wife who’s sitting next to me and already knows to let her know that she’s been in contact with someone who tested positive. The amount of people that they’re contacting to tell them they’ve been in contact with someone and it’s coming as news to them is so negligible that they may as well not bother. Yet the government won’t cancel the contract and Mhancock stood up in parliament again today and patted them on the back.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,130
Don’t know how much more I can take of being forced to go into a job made worse by these measures while anything good remains closed or banned
 
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RedSalmon

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,131
skybluetony176 said:
The bit that really gets me is their clear inability through ignorance and cronyism to not learn from their mistakes. To get something wrong once in uncharted waters is to a certain degree forgivable but to keep repeating the same mistakes is something else.
Look at how well testing, tracking and tracing has worked in Liverpool when the local authorities take over. Yet they keep spaffing billions on Dido’s track and trace and private testing.
I heard on the radio today that not only is Dido’s track and trace only contacting about 50% of the people that they need to trace the vast majority of those are people from the same household as the person who tested positive. In essence I test positive and they ring my wife who’s sitting next to me and already knows to let her know that she’s been in contact with someone who tested positive. The amount of people that they’re contacting to tell them they’ve been in contact with someone and it’s coming as news to them is so negligible that they may as well not bother. Yet the government won’t cancel the contract and Mhancock stood up in parliament again today and patted them on the back.
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There is a really good explanation of how useless the track and trace system is in the Guardian on line under the heading "Untested, untraced: how three-quarters of Covid contacts slip through the cracks". It's a real eye opener. I would post a link but no idea how to it.
 
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Deleted member 4439

Guest
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,132
Nick said:
How is London only Tier 2?
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MPs need the bars kept open
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,133
Here's a rundown of the justification for every tier decision, according to Hancock: Written statements - Written questions, answers and statements - UK Parliament
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,134
Can't believe we're letting a geeza with Cock in his name tell us what to do
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,135
Bugger!! Shouldn't have left the Isle of Wight!
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,136
Deleted member 5849 said:
It will. These things always do with time, anyway. Spanish flu is the fine example. Second wave of that was horrendous, third wave was pretty bad, then it started getting further away. Meantime, people can catch up in how to deal with it.

And that's the thing, this is short term pain for long term gain. This is a very small period of your life (hopefully) to maximise the chances of the rest of your life being pleasurable.
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Spanish flu still exists you know or descendants of it!
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,137
fernandopartridge said:
Spanish flu still exists you know or descendants of it!
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Yep. It's in the vaccine, I think
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,138
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Odds on them fucking up the vaccine distribution?
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well they rang me about a position so their recruitment team are fucking idiots for a start!
In all seriousness, the Pfizer vaccine does sound like a real challenge to distribute given the temperatures it needs to be kept at but the Oxford vaccine sounds a lot simpler to store and distribute so hopefully it will be OK.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,139
clint van damme said:
well they rang me about a position so their recruitment team are fucking idiots for a start!
In all seriousness, the Pfizer vaccine does sound like a real challenge to distribute given the temperatures it needs to be kept at but the Oxford vaccine sounds a lot simpler to store and distribute so hopefully it will be OK.
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Cheaper too. I know it’s not the most effective but it’s cost effective benefit is so good it’s more likely to be administered to the vast majority. I recon NHS staff will get the Pfizer one due to its difficulties to store, the most vulnerable will get the American one and everyone else will get the Oxford one initially. Hopefully that will be enough to trigger the fabled herd immunity too which in turn will make the Oxford vaccine more successful.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,140
clint van damme said:
well they rang me about a position so their recruitment team are fucking idiots for a start!
In all seriousness, the Pfizer vaccine does sound like a real challenge to distribute given the temperatures it needs to be kept at but the Oxford vaccine sounds a lot simpler to store and distribute so hopefully it will be OK.
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We did / have struggled with the increased demand for the flu vaccine this year. tbf that's not surprising, but I hope we don't make big promises and panic trying to meet them. If we just do it methodically, we'll be alright.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,141
I saw something on Twitter about NHS Trusts being contacted now to ask if they can commit to administering from next week, sounds amateurish as ever,
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,142
Can't see this latest update being much different than this. Of course, Cummings has returned to Epsilon-5.

 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,143
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Don’t know how much more I can take of being forced to go into a job made worse by these measures while anything good remains closed or banned
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That’s shit mate. Light at the end of the tunnel, another 4/5 months and we are out of this hell
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,144
Philosorapter said:
Can't see this latest update being much different than this. Of course, Cummings has returned to Epsilon-5.

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Sounds more like Lloyd Grossman!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,145
robbiekeane said:
That’s shit mate. Light at the end of the tunnel, another 4/5 months and we are out of this hell
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Which turns it into a year or more all in. It feels like there’s no end in sight and no relief either at work or home. Sorry to be a pessimist just how it feels
 
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RedSalmon

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,146
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which turns it into a year or more all in. It feels like there’s no end in sight and no relief either at work or home. Sorry to be a pessimist just how it feels
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Utterly agree, have no faith that the people making the decisions know what they are doing and that is the most depressing aspect.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,147
RedSalmon said:
Utterly agree, have no faith that the people making the decisions know what they are doing and that is the most depressing aspect.
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I have full faith in my fellow scientists but not one politician
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,148
Talk of the half dose full dose Oxford vaccine trials was only given to a sample of 3000 people and nobody over 55. So the 90% isn’t looking as strong as originally thought.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,149
hill83 said:
Talk of the half dose full dose Oxford vaccine trials was only given to a sample of 3000 people and nobody over 55. So the 90% isn’t looking as strong as originally thought.
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The issue seems to be it was done by accident. Obviously its good they did if it led to them discovering the half dose works better. The question now is do they have to go back to the start of the testing as the results they've published aren't consistent with the testing they were proposing to do or can the results of the incorrect dose be used.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,150
hill83 said:
Talk of the half dose full dose Oxford vaccine trials was only given to a sample of 3000 people and nobody over 55. So the 90% isn’t looking as strong as originally thought.
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2020 strikes again
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,151
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which turns it into a year or more all in. It feels like there’s no end in sight and no relief either at work or home. Sorry to be a pessimist just how it feels
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When you’re going through hell keep going.

It’ll end mate and you’ll be back to the pub after a day of proper teaching before you know it.

If it helps at all the missus works in pharmacy stores at UHCW and said today they’re getting the Pfizer vaccine in on Monday. Cant imagine they’d send it out too long before it’s going to be used and that’s about a full month before schedule if they’re starting early December.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,152
shmmeee said:
When you’re going through hell keep going.

It’ll end mate and you’ll be back to the pub after a day of proper teaching before you know it.

If it helps at all the missus works in pharmacy stores at UHCW and said today they’re getting the Pfizer vaccine in on Monday. Cant imagine they’d send it out too long before it’s going to be used and that’s about a full month before schedule if they’re starting early December.
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It really doesn’t help that the missus is doom mongering about wedding being cancelled in the summer. If that is also ruined by this I don’t know how I’d handle it
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,153
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It really doesn’t help that the missus is doom mongering about wedding being cancelled in the summer. If that is also ruined by this I don’t know how I’d handle it
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If it happens, in whatever form, it won't be ruined. Trust me
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,154
Deleted member 5849 said:
If it happens, in whatever form, it won't be ruined. Trust me
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That’s not how Mrs BSB sees it
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2020
  • #36,155
chiefdave said:
The issue seems to be it was done by accident. Obviously its good they did if it led to them discovering the half dose works better. The question now is do they have to go back to the start of the testing as the results they've published aren't consistent with the testing they were proposing to do or can the results of the incorrect dose be used.
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The HRA will still give it an emergency thumbs up, the FDA may not but that works for us.
 
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