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The Oxford vaccine during testing on animals didn’t prevent infection but it did eliminate symptoms. May have worked out differently in humans but haven’t looked at it in a while
analysis also suggested there was a reduction in the number of people being infected without developing symptoms, who are still thought to be able to spread the virus
This bits relevant too,yes?
Fill us in scientist.
Is that euphemism SBD ?
Thought there's a suggestion it may potentially at least in part prevent onward transmission?The Oxford vaccine during testing on animals didn’t prevent infection but it did eliminate symptoms. May have worked out differently in humans but haven’t looked at it in a while
Thought there's a suggestion it may potentially at least in part prevent onward transmission?
Guessing just about tier 2 for Coventry .So where do people think they will end up Tier wise? Living in Northamptonshire I think we will be minimum Tier 2.
From the utter randomness, it'll be tier zero.So where do people think they will end up Tier wise? Living in Northamptonshire I think we will be minimum Tier 2.
Some yes but heard on the radio Kent was T1 (if o heard correctly) but now has 600+ per 100,000....guessing they will be T3i'd say we will all exit into whatever tiers we were in before
My new favourite Tory MP is Neil O’Brien after this thread:
Yeah, they were debating it on LBC (maajid nawas) yesterday so I had a look at the article and some of the stats. Let’s just say the actual data wasn’t quite as supportive as the article/Naawas suggested. That’s not to say it should be all discounted but it wasn't being accurately portrayed ie picking out certain death data for one week and comparing it to the 5 year average (and saying something like it was only 1000 deaths higher than normal - don’t quote me on that but it was something similar - that’s quite a lot for one week though !). Some data geek who didn’t necessarily agree with lockdowns pulled him up on it but he ignored the guys (correct) points.
Shame as there’s some genuine debate to be had about benefits or not of lockdowns (or certain elements of society being locked down ie hospitality, gyms etc) but this was just a sloppy/biased article
I’m just glad to see MPs calling out bad data.
Im all for debate, but I’m getting a little tired of the “the entire profession has it wrong, me, a guy on Twitter, has the *real* data” stuff. People like this guy, the Karol Sikora guy and Carl Henneghan, who either outright make nonsense up or push a very skewed version of the data (see the Danish mask study pushed by Henneghan in the Spectator recently, which never attempted to prove mask efficacy for preventing spread which is the main reason for a mask policy).
Let’s debate reality. We know it’s dangerous. We know deaths are going up. We know masks help prevent spread. Start from there.
Karol 'this will all be over by June' Sikora.
Karol "threatened with legal action by Imperial College for pretending to work there" Sikora
Didn't realise that so I google it and in the process came across his part in the Lockerbie bomber release controversy.
What's the rest of the party having?"Bowl of chips and 10 pints please barkeep"
Didn't realise he was a Tory but looked at that earlier, he seems all a bit sane. Then saw that dickhead Redwood tweetInteresting paper (off a retweet from my new favourite Tory MP), calculates infection fatality rate and nicely puts the “it’s not a risk” stuff to bed:
Here’s the money shot (also note how much safer the U.K. is compared to the US):
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So across age groups it’s significantly more fatal to catch COVID than to get in a car accident or other accidents that cause death.
My new favourite Tory MP is Neil O’Brien after this thread:
Pint of Directors with a gin and tonic and Astrazeneca chaserWhat's the rest of the party having?
Back of the netPint of Directors with a gin and tonic and Astrazeneca chaser
Lad has got the proper pub sweatsThe cov figures are heading nicely in the right direction, hopefully wee can get our of tier 2 asap
Lad has got the proper pub sweats
Big drop in infections unfortunately deaths over 600 though
Yeah, as I've said before deaths of 500+ a day are pretty much programmed in for probably the rest of the year.Big drop in infections unfortunately deaths over 600 though
Yeah, as I've said before deaths of 500+ a day are pretty much programmed in for probably the rest of the year.
only half as many tests carried out as well so that'll be why there is a drop
Mondays are always low !Looks to be the lowest amount of testing in around 3 months which is odd. Yesterday's was also lower than usual. % wise the amount of positive cases seems similar to the past couple of weeks.
It’s TuesdayMondays are always low !
Looks to be the lowest amount of testing in around 3 months which is odd. Yesterday's was also lower than usual. % wise the amount of positive cases seems similar to the past couple of weeks.
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