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The 70% was after two full shots, I thought?
The 70% was after two full shots, I thought?The logical conclusion is that as the government has ordered only so many that they'll do mass vaccination using one shot
Yeah slightly confusing as the 70 figure is derived from the data of both regimens.Take a look at the press release they put out and you’ll see the numbers are much better than that
Oxford University breakthrough on global COVID-19 vaccine | University of Oxford
Oxford announces interim trial data from its Phase III trials that show its candidate coronavirus vaccine is effective at preventing COVID-19 and offers a high level of protection.www.ox.ac.uk
So in summary:
* If you take the vaccine in two full doses it’s 62% effective
* If you take the vaccine with one half dose followed by one full dose it’s 90% effective
So not only is the vaccine just as effective as the others, there’s also more of it to go round. Plus it appears to slow down transmission of the virus, and it can be stored at fridge temperature. And we have fucking loads of it on order. So this is very very good indeed.
It was confusing as that's how it came across on BBC at one point .The 70% was after two full shots, I thought?
The 70% was after two full shots, I thought?
Yeah slightly confusing as the 70 figure is derived from the data of both regimens.
Almost like the presentation is to depress the share price.
Yeah, that's true enough. I do also like the fact it's set up to supply the world ahead of profit.What it shows is that there’s no pressure to sugarcoat anything and they’re going to give us the data as it comes, good and bad.
Astrazenica.The 70% is what you get from combining the 62% group (two doses) with the 90% group (one and a half doses)
The share price of Oxford University?
What it shows is that there’s no pressure to sugarcoat anything and they’re going to give us the data as it comes, good and bad. It’s a shame the public and the media isn’t better with numbers but we should be reassured by how this has been handled.
Yeah, that's true enough. I do also like the fact it's set up to supply the world ahead of profit.
After all, if the vaccine wears off after a while, if we don't suppress it globally, we're back here again down the line...
Astrazenica.
Although the data of the second more successful regimen based on 3k volunteers appears to increase effectiveness and make the vaccine go further,why downplay that .
Unless they don't have full confidence.
Pundit's observer's etc saying I'd be extremely happy with 70%,why would that be , it's farcical to me.
Either the most affective usage and resultant protection, the 62% regimen is deemed useless/ pointless by the other .
I just find the focus around the lower figure irrelevant, inclusion of the lower data suppresses the efficacy and wastes dosage.Oxford University don’t care about AZ’s share price and even if they did there’s no reason for them to try and tank its shares (unless this entire vaccine program is an elaborate short-selling scheme....I’m gonna guess it’s not)
As for pundits saying they’d be happy with 70% - that was what many scientists said was their best case scenario before we got the first set of test results. 70% would be in line with various vaccines for other diseases (flu etc) and worth celebrating in itself. The fact that we’ve hit 90% is both a pleasant surprise and a cause for even more optimism (which is why you saw markets go crazy when the first results come out).
This all looks like a huge achievement.
I just find the focus around the lower figure irrelevant, inclusion of the lower data suppresses the efficacy and wastes dosage.
Just my opinion I'll leave it there as just my opinion.
they've broken their own lockdown rules, misappropriated public funds, bent if not broken the planning laws to deprive a poor London borough of 40 million and been found guilty of bullying since this pandemic started and they haven't apologised for anything.
It should be a national scandal but very few people seem to give a fuck.
Not sure there's any big conspiracy to suppress good news. Think its more likely that those responsible for getting articles up on various news websites quickly don't have the knowledge to fully understand a press release that isn't in an easy to understand format.I just find the focus around the lower figure irrelevant, inclusion of the lower data suppresses the efficacy and wastes dosage.
Just my opinion I'll leave it there as just my opinion.
One dosing regimen (n=2,741) showed vaccine efficacy of 90% when AZD1222 was given as a half dose, followed by a full dose at least one month apart, and another dosing regimen (n=8,895) showed 62% efficacy when given as two full doses at least one month apart. The combined analysis from both dosing regimens (n=11,636) resulted in an average efficacy of 70%. All results were statistically significant (p<=0.0001). More data will continue to accumulate and additional analysis will be conducted, refining the efficacy reading and establishing the duration of protection.
Not sure there's any big conspiracy to suppress good news. Think its more likely that those responsible for getting articles up on various news websites quickly don't have the knowledge to fully understand a press release that isn't in an easy to understand format.
Suppose you could if you wanted to create a private option.
Oxford for Joe bloggs .
Phizer to the wealthy?
Not sure ,feels more editorial to me?I think this is just bad science reporting TBF. Something that journalists have always struggled with.
The BBC report on the AZ results is a shambles
Covid-19: Oxford University vaccine is highly effective
The vaccine is cheaper than other options and easier to distribute around the world.www.bbc.co.uk
It clearly says 90% effectiveness with 2 does the same as the Pzifer and Moderna vaccines
Clowns
analysis also suggested there was a reduction in the number of people being infected without developing symptoms, who are still thought to be able to spread the virusIf we can get to everyone or nearly everyone asymptomatic that’ll do
What's the gist?The new tier 2 is fucking shite
Oh yeah just saw that. Haven't felt like a beer for a while but I was hoping for a pint with friends before Xmas.Got the silly Wetherspoons friendly pub laws, only pubs that serve food can open
Got the silly Wetherspoons friendly pub laws, only pubs that serve food can open
Keeping the pork scratchings industry open
Good old Liz Truss. Thank god she opened up those new pork markets eh!
Keeping the pork scratchings industry open
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