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shmmeee

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,596
RedSalmon said:
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We really need a “resigned nod” react. “Like” doesn’t cut it.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,597

Welsh move to cancel GCSE and A-level exams puts pressure on No 10

No plans to follow Wales, says Johnson spokesman, as unions say England is ‘lagging behind’
www.theguardian.com
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,598
wingy said:

UK set to cut Covid self-isolation to 10 days after Cummings and Whitty row

Exclusive: plan to cut from 14 days came after argument between England’s chief medical officer and PM’s aide
www.theguardian.com
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How does that twat have the nerve to even think his opinion matters on the handling of this
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,599
RedSalmon said:
Have just seen an article in the Guardian (unable to link) saying the Government are expecting GP clinics to administer 975 vaccines a week, working 12 hour shifts, seven days a week. Hope they plan and organise this better than the ongoing fiasco we know as Track and Trace.
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Here it is.

GP clinics in England to administer at least 975 Covid vaccines a week

Plan for dedicated practices to run from 8am to 8pm seven days a week
www.theguardian.com
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,600
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How does that twat have the nerve to even think his opinion matters on the handling of this
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Chief Medical Officer v random populist bloke. Obvious whose view will prevail in 21st century politics!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,601
Looks like it’s 20,000 infections a day and 3-500 deaths for now then. Suppose that’s ok is it?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,602
Sky Blue Pete said:
Looks like it’s 20,000 infections a day and 3-500 deaths for now then. Suppose that’s ok is it?
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I don’t suppose so but Italy are forecasting 10,000 deaths next month, France are up to 60,000 infections a day and Spain’s health service has collapsed so relatively speaking it’s par for the course

Belgium now having locked down admit they have totally lost control and infection rate is spiralling to be the worst per head in Europe
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,603
Grendel said:
I don’t suppose so but Italy are forecasting 10,000 deaths next month, France are up to 60,000 infections a day and Spain’s health service has collapsed so relatively speaking it’s par for the course

Belgium now having locked down admit they have totally lost control and infection rate is spiralling to be the worst per head in Europe
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If it's letting rip anyway then may as well open it all up
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,604
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If it's letting rip anyway then may as well open it all up
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Germany continue to do rather well. The rest of Europe whatever restrictions imposed do not.
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,605
wingy said:

Welsh move to cancel GCSE and A-level exams puts pressure on No 10

No plans to follow Wales, says Johnson spokesman, as unions say England is ‘lagging behind’
www.theguardian.com
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Glad to see there is some sense left somewhere. Only a matter of time until England follows suit IMO.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,606
Ian1779 said:
Glad to see there is some sense left somewhere. Only a matter of time until England follows suit IMO.
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If they can do exams in a classroom why can’t they do them in a hall?
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,607
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If they can do exams in a classroom why can’t they do them in a hall?
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They haven’t released the details but I am hoping these will be graduated assessments of some sorts covering specific aspects so they will account for loss of learning over the last 10 months.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,608
Ian1779 said:
They haven’t released the details but I am hoping these will be graduated assessments of some sorts so they will account for loss of learning over the last 10 months.
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It's to allow for unequal delivery I think.
Bound to vary across the region and individual school's.
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,609
wingy said:
It's to allow for unequal delivery I think.
Bound to vary across the region and individual school's.
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I have heard a rumour that these ‘assessments’ will be put together by the exam boards themselves and that the ones in England are doing the same behind closed doors.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,610
Ian1779 said:
They haven’t released the details but I am hoping these will be graduated assessments of some sorts covering specific aspects so they will account for loss of learning over the last 10 months.
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Right, but some places will cheat, sorry but you just know that.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,611
Grendel said:
I don’t suppose so but Italy are forecasting 10,000 deaths next month, France are up to 60,000 infections a day and Spain’s health service has collapsed so relatively speaking it’s par for the course

Belgium now having locked down admit they have totally lost control and infection rate is spiralling to be the worst per head in Europe
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Yep saw that about Belgium
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,612
Ian1779 said:
Glad to see there is some sense left somewhere. Only a matter of time until England follows suit IMO.
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Yep very sensible
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,613
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Right, but some places will cheat, sorry but you just know that.
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Yes - and this is why HMI/OFSTED have to be front and centre of the scrutiny process.
 

shepardo01

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,614
Ian1779 said:
Glad to see there is some sense left somewhere. Only a matter of time until England follows suit IMO.
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They are saying that they won't follow....
So expect an announcement early next week!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,615
Ian1779 said:
Yes - and this is why HMI/OFSTED have to be front and centre of the scrutiny process.
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They never were for coursework. Sorry, if they can do external assessments with a teacher in the room they can do the proper ones invigilated.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,616
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They never were for coursework. Sorry, if they can do external assessments with a teacher in the room they can do the proper ones invigilated.
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They could but it won't be an even playing Field , that seems to be the rationale.
Due to varying impact across regions and individual school's affected by this thing .
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,617
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They never were for coursework. Sorry, if they can do external assessments with a teacher in the room they can do the proper ones invigilated.
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Smaller, focused assessments would make it easier for a subject like Maths where you could have an area focus (Number, Algebra or Geometry for example) rather than the 3 paper absolute lottery you get right now.

To be honest - until there is definitive detail we are pissing in the wind and guessing at everything. I am all for it if the structure is clear and student get as much equity as possible.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 10, 2020
  • #35,618
wingy said:
They could but it won't be an even playing Field , that seems to be the rationale.
Due to varying impact across regions and individual school's affected by this thing .
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Education doesn't have an even playing field to begin with. Makes me think there's not much point in having busted my arse off this year.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,619
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Education doesn't have an even playing field to begin with. Makes me think there's not much point in having busted my arse off this year.
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A ray of sunshine as ever
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,620
robbiekeane said:
A ray of sunshine as ever
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A sarcastic twat as ever
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,621
Brighton Sky Blue said:
A sarcastic twat as ever
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At least there’s a light at the end of the tunnel now with the vaccine. Should make everyone at least have an end in sight
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,622
robbiekeane said:
At least there’s a light at the end of the tunnel now with the vaccine. Should make everyone at least have an end in sight
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Right but going sarcy on the stressed is a bit of a dick move when you don’t know my personal circumstances.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,623

Covid-19: Universities to oversee student exodus for Christmas

They are being asked to travel in the seven days after the national lockdown in England ends.
www.bbc.co.uk

Of course if they'd moved it online during lockdown, this would have been so much easier, and less of a risk.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,624
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Right but going sarcy on the stressed is a bit of a dick move when you don’t know my personal circumstances.
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I dunno man, it was tongue in cheek because you were being very negative about something that was quite a positive move. When someone suggested it was to perhaps account for the playing field being made less even your response was “the playing field in education isn’t level anyway”. In a world where there’s very little positive news not sure you need to just slag everything off when it’s clearly good intentioned.

Anyway, not getting sucked into an argument, sounds like you have some stuff going on and I’m sorry to hear that. Feel free to PM if you ever want to rant!
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,625
Is the exam system outdated, irrelevant and poor at capturing much beyond socioeconomic circumstances and cultural norms? Does a target based approach to education fundamentally misunderstand the process and distort the outcome? Does this country place entirely too much importance on a few hours at 16?

No, no, it’s the cheating teachers who are wrong.

Ah man, we were *this close* to transitioning to a sensible assessment model for secondary education.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,626
shmmeee said:
Is the exam system outdated, irrelevant and poor at capturing much beyond socioeconomic circumstances and cultural norms? Does a target based approach to education fundamentally misunderstand the process and distort the outcome? Does this country place entirely too much importance on a few hours at 16?

No, no, it’s the cheating teachers who are wrong.

Ah man, we were *this close* to transitioning to a sensible assessment model for secondary education.
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Some schools did cheat at coursework though shmmeee, it was an open secret.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,627
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Some schools did cheat at coursework though shmmeee, it was an open secret.
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But that is a symptom of something else isn't it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,628
fernandopartridge said:
But that is a symptom of something else isn't it?
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Which is what?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,629
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which is what?
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Sorry, really it's a symptom of the same thing which is exam results holding disproportionate sway, not that it would necessarily be much different with teacher assessment.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 11, 2020
  • #35,630
fernandopartridge said:
Sorry, really it's a symptom of the same thing which is exam results holding disproportionate sway, not that it would necessarily be much different with teacher assessment.
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The whole reason there was a big shift from coursework was because of cheating. I don’t see how they address it.
 
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