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Looks like it’s 20,000 infections a day and 3-500 deaths for now then. Suppose that’s ok is it?

I don’t suppose so but Italy are forecasting 10,000 deaths next month, France are up to 60,000 infections a day and Spain’s health service has collapsed so relatively speaking it’s par for the course

Belgium now having locked down admit they have totally lost control and infection rate is spiralling to be the worst per head in Europe
 
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I don’t suppose so but Italy are forecasting 10,000 deaths next month, France are up to 60,000 infections a day and Spain’s health service has collapsed so relatively speaking it’s par for the course

Belgium now having locked down admit they have totally lost control and infection rate is spiralling to be the worst per head in Europe

If it's letting rip anyway then may as well open it all up
 

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If they can do exams in a classroom why can’t they do them in a hall?
They haven’t released the details but I am hoping these will be graduated assessments of some sorts covering specific aspects so they will account for loss of learning over the last 10 months.
 
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They haven’t released the details but I am hoping these will be graduated assessments of some sorts so they will account for loss of learning over the last 10 months.
It's to allow for unequal delivery I think.
Bound to vary across the region and individual school's.
 

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It's to allow for unequal delivery I think.
Bound to vary across the region and individual school's.
I have heard a rumour that these ‘assessments’ will be put together by the exam boards themselves and that the ones in England are doing the same behind closed doors.
 
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They haven’t released the details but I am hoping these will be graduated assessments of some sorts covering specific aspects so they will account for loss of learning over the last 10 months.

Right, but some places will cheat, sorry but you just know that.
 

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I don’t suppose so but Italy are forecasting 10,000 deaths next month, France are up to 60,000 infections a day and Spain’s health service has collapsed so relatively speaking it’s par for the course

Belgium now having locked down admit they have totally lost control and infection rate is spiralling to be the worst per head in Europe
Yep saw that about Belgium
 

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Yes - and this is why HMI/OFSTED have to be front and centre of the scrutiny process.

They never were for coursework. Sorry, if they can do external assessments with a teacher in the room they can do the proper ones invigilated.
 

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They never were for coursework. Sorry, if they can do external assessments with a teacher in the room they can do the proper ones invigilated.
They could but it won't be an even playing Field , that seems to be the rationale.
Due to varying impact across regions and individual school's affected by this thing .
 

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They never were for coursework. Sorry, if they can do external assessments with a teacher in the room they can do the proper ones invigilated.
Smaller, focused assessments would make it easier for a subject like Maths where you could have an area focus (Number, Algebra or Geometry for example) rather than the 3 paper absolute lottery you get right now.

To be honest - until there is definitive detail we are pissing in the wind and guessing at everything. I am all for it if the structure is clear and student get as much equity as possible.
 

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They could but it won't be an even playing Field , that seems to be the rationale.
Due to varying impact across regions and individual school's affected by this thing .

Education doesn't have an even playing field to begin with. Makes me think there's not much point in having busted my arse off this year.
 

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Right but going sarcy on the stressed is a bit of a dick move when you don’t know my personal circumstances.
I dunno man, it was tongue in cheek because you were being very negative about something that was quite a positive move. When someone suggested it was to perhaps account for the playing field being made less even your response was “the playing field in education isn’t level anyway”. In a world where there’s very little positive news not sure you need to just slag everything off when it’s clearly good intentioned.

Anyway, not getting sucked into an argument, sounds like you have some stuff going on and I’m sorry to hear that. Feel free to PM if you ever want to rant!
 

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Is the exam system outdated, irrelevant and poor at capturing much beyond socioeconomic circumstances and cultural norms? Does a target based approach to education fundamentally misunderstand the process and distort the outcome? Does this country place entirely too much importance on a few hours at 16?

No, no, it’s the cheating teachers who are wrong.

Ah man, we were *this close* to transitioning to a sensible assessment model for secondary education.
 
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Is the exam system outdated, irrelevant and poor at capturing much beyond socioeconomic circumstances and cultural norms? Does a target based approach to education fundamentally misunderstand the process and distort the outcome? Does this country place entirely too much importance on a few hours at 16?

No, no, it’s the cheating teachers who are wrong.

Ah man, we were *this close* to transitioning to a sensible assessment model for secondary education.

Some schools did cheat at coursework though shmmeee, it was an open secret.
 

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Sorry, really it's a symptom of the same thing which is exam results holding disproportionate sway, not that it would necessarily be much different with teacher assessment.

The whole reason there was a big shift from coursework was because of cheating. I don’t see how they address it.
 

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