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Cllr Jim O'Boyle about the council / land for stadium (1 Viewer)

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Nick

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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Good to see one of the council accounts straight on it
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #2
So no one else has to bother listening the answer is (twice): “that’s a matter for the football club, not the city council”
 

hill83

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #3
“That’s a matter for the football club it’s not a matter for the city council”

 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #4
Nick said:

Good to see one of the council accounts straight on it
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A useless answer as you would expect, still obviously not missing the money the club brought into the local area that is now being spent in Birmingham and looking at the pub I drove past after the game quite successfully as it was busy.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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shmmeee said:
So no one else has to bother listening the answer is (twice): “that’s a matter for the football club, not the city council”
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Doesn't really answer the question though does it?

Council have provided land to a developer for a hotel, actually twice as they've also done it in the city centre. It would appear, from the information available, that on both occasions the council has identified land for a hotel and then approached developers offering them a preferential deal. With the football club it seems they are sitting back doing the minimum required by law, ie if an application is submitted it will be considered.

Maybe the question needs to be phrased different. 'Is there anything preventing the council identifying a suitable site for a stadium and offering it to the football club?'.

That's before you even consider the councils failure to respond regarding a site the club has approached them about.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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Sisu : so Coventry city Council we've identified land and will build there if that's OK with you.

Council.: that's a matter for you not for us

SISU : cheers we will start tomorrow


That's how moronic the answer given to gilbert is
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #7
chiefdave said:
Doesn't really answer the question though does it?

Council have provided land to a developer for a hotel, actually twice as they've also done it in the city centre. It would appear, from the information available, that on both occasions the council has identified land for a hotel and then approached developers offering them a preferential deal. With the football club it seems they are sitting back doing the minimum required by law, ie if an application is submitted it will be considered.

Maybe the question needs to be phrased different. 'Is there anything preventing the council identifying a suitable site for a stadium and offering it to the football club?'.

That's before you even consider the councils failure to respond regarding a site the club has approached them about.
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Literally just reporting what was said to save people the effort. Stand down.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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Evo1883 said:
Sisu : so Coventry city Council we've identified land and will build there if that's OK with you.

Council.: that's a matter for you not for us

SISU : cheers we will start tomorrow


That's how moronic the answer given to gilbert is
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It's exactly why they should be pressured and hassled along with SISU.
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #9
Vote the sods out I say!!!
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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Warwickhunt said:
Vote the sods out I say!!!
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No chance in this city
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #11
Doesn’t matter the other sides are no better
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #12
Nick said:
It's exactly why they should be pressured and hassled along with SISU.
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Still think the end run around this is to push for a CCFC fans group to be given the freehold/long leasehold on the land.

Stops concerns that the council is giving away taxpayer assets to a hedge fund. Ensures the club always has a ground of their own away from ownership issues. And doesn’t mean Sisu have to have a working relationship with the council.

Only minor sticking point is finding a fans group everyone can agree is trustworthy.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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I get a warm glow each mth when I see £100+ taken from my bank to support Council services.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #14
O'Boyle got flustered by the question
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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fernandopartridge said:
O'Boyle got flustered by the question
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Was an irritated tone in his voice wasnt there
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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It must be the one question they are constantly being asked they must be hating it
 

clint van damme

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #17
O'Boyle is a moron.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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Terry Gibson's perm said:
It must be the one question they are constantly being asked they must be hating it
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Which makes it all the more surprising they seem unprepared for it and unable to respond with a decent answer. Or maybe they're just safe in the knowledge whatever answer they give it won't be questioned or followed up on.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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dubed said:
I get a warm glow each mth when I see £100+ taken from my bank to support Council services.
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Personally I’m a fan of vulnerable adults getting social care and my bins getting emptied, but go off.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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chiefdave said:
Which makes it all the more surprising they seem unprepared for it and unable to respond with a decent answer. Or maybe they're just safe in the knowledge whatever answer they give it won't be questioned or followed up on.
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Sounds to me that they’ve been given a line by legal while the EU case is ongoing TBH.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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shmmeee said:
Sounds to me that they’ve been given a line by legal while the EU case is ongoing TBH.
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Not a very good one.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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Nick said:
Not a very good one.
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They never are. Always just amount to “no comment”. But then you hear the same from the national government at the moment regarding literally anything. Political interviews are shit and pointless these days.
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #23
how can i not be a case for the council?

the cunts dont reply and do not want a new stadium built as it it will mean they lose any control vs sisu
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #24
covcity4life said:
how can i not be a case for the council?

the cunts dont reply and do not want a new stadium built as it it will mean they lose any control vs sisu
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You sound like my ex. And like my ex I imagine that rather being scared about “losing control” they want as little as possible to do with the mental, gaslighting, money grabbing bitch.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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I don't understand why they don't do what many people on here have suggested and call sisus bluff, , identify a piece of land and tell them to crack on.
It's a win win, either put to bed to whole new stadium saga for good or the city gets a spanking new stadium and a load of jobs created locally.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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clint van damme said:
I don't understand why they don't do what many people on here have suggested and call sisus bluff, , identify a piece of land and tell them to crack on.
It's a win win, either put to bed to whole new stadium saga for good or the city gets a spanking new stadium and a load of jobs created locally.
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They don’t trust Sisu is the long and short of it is my guess and don’t want to start another deal while there’s still such a shitstorm from the last one.

Hence why I’d do that and then gift it to the fans.
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #27
they dont trust sisu

one look at council inbox is more worrying though lol
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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Terry Gibson's perm said:
Doesn’t matter the other sides are no better
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i vote for independants every time! Get a few more of those in and it upsets the voting balance in the Council sessions
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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Evo1883 said:
No chance in this city
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It is why it was very frustrating we voted against having an elected mayor. In that system you have an individual who is directly accountable to the electorate. People can stand against that individual on a level playing field, and in a direct election like that a candidate could win easy votes if they ran on a platform of being pro CCFC. It may not win them the election on its own, but it would be low hanging fruit as far and gaining extra votes is concerned, and they would then be under pressure to deliver.

Duggins is pretty much untouchable. The only people who can remove him are his own colleagues in reality. He is in a very safe seat, and because only a handful of seats are contested each year, it is impossible to get any traction or effect any real change at any one election.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Aug 20, 2019
  • #30
There is or could be private land though
theferret said:
It is why it was very frustrating we voted against having an elected mayor. In that system you have an individual who is directly accountable to the electorate. People can stand against that individual on a level playing field, and in a direct election like that a candidate could win easy votes if they ran on a platform of being pro CCFC. It may not win them the election on its own, but it would be low hanging fruit as far and gaining extra votes is concerned, and they would then be under pressure to deliver.

Duggins is pretty much untouchable. The only people who can remove him are his own colleagues in reality. He is in a very safe seat, and because only a handful of seats are contested each year, it is impossible to get any traction or effect any real change at any one
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Magwitch

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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theferret said:
It is why it was very frustrating we voted against having an elected mayor. In that system you have an individual who is directly accountable to the electorate. People can stand against that individual on a level playing field, and in a direct election like that a candidate could win easy votes if they ran on a platform of being pro CCFC. It may not win them the election on its own, but it would be low hanging fruit as far and gaining extra votes is concerned, and they would then be under pressure to deliver.

Duggins is pretty much untouchable. The only people who can remove him are his own colleagues in reality. He is in a very safe seat, and because only a handful of seats are contested each year, it is impossible to get any traction or effect any real change at any one election.
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His Longford seat is up for grabs this May good opportunity for an independent on a Ricoh ticket to challenge, should be plenty of interest on here.
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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Magwitch said:
His Longford seat is up for grabs this May good opportunity for an independent on a Ricoh ticket to challenge, should be plenty of interest on here.
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Yeah, that's probably the best option. Forget trying to gain multiple seats on the council and focus solely on that one seat and cause a bit of a fuss. Would need a good candidate with a lot of backing. Ultimately you're reliant on the electorate in one ward, but with a good campaign, even if the candidate didn't have a realistic chance of winning outright, they would potentially split the vote and maybe create enough fear for Duggins to change his stance. Just need that one person to step up I guess.
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Aug 20, 2019
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i wonder if they read this site? might be an idea to start a thread called "Remove the Council Officers against CCFC"
 
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  • Aug 20, 2019
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theferret said:
Yeah, that's probably the best option. Forget trying to gain multiple seats on the council and focus solely on that one seat and cause a bit of a fuss. Would need a good candidate with a lot of backing. Ultimately you're reliant on the electorate in one ward, but with a good campaign, even if the candidate didn't have a realistic chance of winning outright, they would potentially split the vote and maybe create enough fear for Duggins to change his stance. Just need that one person to step up I guess.
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The good campaign is the major sticking point!

It was tried before in Northampton days, but late, and disorganised, and probably ended up doing more harm than good as it ended up sending a message that nobody cared about CCC, so they could crack on with ignoring the club.
 
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shmmeee said:
Sounds to me that they’ve been given a line by legal while the EU case is ongoing TBH.
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