mark82
Super Moderator
Not sure you pay £50 million with the intention of him sitting on the bench.
He'll never get in Chelsea's first team. He'll be warming the bench or get loaned out.
Hasn't Abraham gone to Wolves?
If we are on to receive a healthy sell on bonus from this is might be enough to solve our homelessness issues next year. Either offer Wasps to buy half the Ricoh, or upgrade the Butts and move there!
I think Wasps are valuing the Ricoh at c.£65m - not sure SISU will stump up for half of that!If we are on to receive a healthy sell on bonus from this is might be enough to solve our homelessness issues next year. Either offer Wasps to buy half the Ricoh, or upgrade the Butts and move there!
I think Wasps are valuing the Ricoh at c.£65m - not sure SISU will stump up for half of that!
One can only hope!or its SISU's ticket out of here. 15% of £50m, £7.5m ?
Aah, I was basing it off the fact they bought the Ricoh for £20m, but I guess even that would mean SISU reaching into their own pockets..I think Wasps are valuing the Ricoh at c.£65m - not sure SISU will stump up for half of that!
Just seen that they filed accounts last week. Valuation of the Ricoh is £60m and they are looking to formally revalue it again this year.Aah, I was basing it off the fact they bought the Ricoh for £20m, but I guess even that would mean SISU reaching into their own pockets..
or its SISU's ticket out of here. 15% of £50m, £7.5m ?
Just seen that they filed accounts last week. Valuation of the Ricoh is £60m and they are looking to formally revalue it again this year.
It’s crazy one can just say it’s worth blah.Shows how fucked up it was selling it to them for £20m.
Why not?
How can they value it at that? Excuse my lack of knowledge on the subject but I thought this whole court case deal was about the devaluation of the Ricoh. Surely if they're now valuing it at 3x what they bought for, SISU has a bulletproof case??Just seen that they filed accounts last week. Valuation of the Ricoh is £60m and they are looking to formally revalue it again this year.
That's the Man City way.Not sure you pay £50 million with the intention of him sitting on the bench.
Shows how fucked up it was selling it to them for £20m.
i thought sisu had 50-60m losses since taking over club? do they not want to recover that?There is no evidence to suggest that wasps are looking to achieve shared ownership. Why do they need to. They could simply offer a long term sub lease to CCFC with premium to purchase.
Certainly i doubt that any Wilson fee would come close to the amount required to get a 50% share of the lease. Also would the Wilson fee be paid in one lump sum?
I think it could be more likely that the fee acts as a catalyst for SISU taking the money and off loading CCFC. Take the £7m then sell on the club, (already rejected £4m haven't they) so we are looking at north of £11m they could take pretty much tax free. ARVO could be owed £17m by now so if that was settled perhaps thats their cue to go?
They view the Ricoh more as a property deal than a home of sport so I agree that a long-term sub lease would be the most likely deal for them. With that though there would still be the question over matchday revenues and absolutely no share from the wider venue business (concerts, casino, hotel, exhibitions etc) flowing through to CCFC. We would have a home but without the wider revenue stream (or a sugar daddy owner) it will be difficult to become a top flight team again.There is no evidence to suggest that wasps are looking to achieve shared ownership. Why do they need to. They could simply offer a long term sub lease to CCFC with premium to purchase.
Certainly i doubt that any Wilson fee would come close to the amount required to get a 50% share of the lease. Also would the Wilson fee be paid in one lump sum?
I think it could be more likely that the fee acts as a catalyst for SISU taking the money and off loading CCFC. Take the £7m then sell on the club, (already rejected £4m haven't they) so we are looking at north of £11m they could take pretty much tax free. ARVO could be owed £17m by now so if that was settled perhaps thats their cue to go?
The SISU case is it seems to me and more importantly the judges in terms of valuations is based on false logic. Their argument does not reflect for example the long term lease given to wasps rugby, which did not exist when the sale was done. As the judges said comparing "Apples with Pears". SISU case is very far from bulletproof in the eyes of at least 4 judges whose judgements were pretty scathing.
Without wanting to open this up yet again, how long after the sale of the stadium was the lease extended? Wasn't part of SISU's argument that this should have been considered when valuing the Ricoh because it was presumably part of any agreement CCC and Wasps had (that CCC would extend the lease). Did CCC receive any payment for extending the lease?
The lease extension was agreed in the same meeting as the sale to Wasps was agreed so they clearly did know.
That's the impression I had. I'm not going to dispute the (several) rulings given by the judges but it does seem a bit odd to me, perhaps osb can clarify a bit?
i thought sisu had 50-60m losses since taking over club? do they not want to recover that?
also is it confirmed we have 15% sell on fee?
They view the Ricoh more as a property deal than a home of sport so I agree that a long-term sub lease would be the most likely deal for them. With that though there would still be the question over matchday revenues and absolutely no share from the wider venue business (concerts, casino, hotel, exhibitions etc) flowing through to CCFC. We would have a home but without the wider revenue stream (or a sugar daddy owner) it will be difficult to become a top flight team again.
Without wanting to open this up yet again, how long after the sale of the stadium was the lease extended? Wasn't part of SISU's argument that this should have been considered when valuing the Ricoh because it was presumably part of any agreement CCC and Wasps had (that CCC would extend the lease). Did CCC receive any payment for extending the lease?
It would need a massive fluke to get into the Premier League without millions pumped in.
There was an article in CT this week quoting MR as holding up Bournemouth as the example he wants to follow. Yes he said it would take us longer but Bournemouth did it on the back of 10's of millions from the owner. Not sure how we follow that ..............
West Ham have made offers for him in the past - he always scores against themRE: Wilson, watch out for West Ham now Arnautovic is headed to China.
If West Ham go for him I can't see them paying anywhere near £50m.RE: Wilson, watch out for West Ham now Arnautovic is headed to China.
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