SafeAsMilk
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Peeping through his fingers to see if the ref was looking!!!!
Cheating like we saw from Southampton needs to be stopped (22 Viewers)
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robbiethemole
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I see SKY are highlighting these tackles, a bit like they did for BTA, hopefully the panel look at them as per BTA and they get the same outcome. Trial by SKY
clint van damme
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Though given Southamptons fixtures that will be of no benefit to us unfortunately
Great_Expectations
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This forum loves to be binary.
It is feasible to complain about the standard of officiating today without it being an excuse for us losing.
I thought he was inconsistent, weak and had zero control. He wasn’t helped by his Assistants, especially the one in front of the East Stand who seemed incapable of making a decision and was frequently behind play.
It is feasible to complain about the standard of officiating today without it being an excuse for us losing.
I thought he was inconsistent, weak and had zero control. He wasn’t helped by his Assistants, especially the one in front of the East Stand who seemed incapable of making a decision and was frequently behind play.
jim20
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This is exactly right, we weren’t at our best today, but Southampton came with a plan to disrupt, as soon as they realised the ref was so poor, and they wouldn’t get penalised for dangerous tackles or time wasting it continued all game.
I think if we had players good as we can we would’ve won today in spite of southamptons tactics. But as we weren’t at our best, the cheating didn’t help, and I think we deserved a draw.
I believe when a team comes to play the way Southampton does, the ref needs to be strong and stamp it out early on, this ref didn’t and we could all see after the first few minutes where it was heading. I’m not a fan of early yellows, but in this instance one or two early bookings for Southampton would’ve stopped the dirty fouls and the time wasting
robbiethemole
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I would even say I'd rather have had Gavin Ward, ( hate him ) in charge today. I know he's a cocky. stroppy little fucker, but he'd have stopped all the fuckery today at the start
SkyblueTexan
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I don’t recall Onyeka stamping on someone’s foot or placing a high boot where it could potentially break the other player’s foot. There’s different levels to bring physical and playing aggressively without resorting to being downright dirty.
These challenges deserved at least a yellow card at the very least if not a red like what Da Silva got in the reverse fixture.
JohnWH
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Just gotta say
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Pretty sure he got away with something similar, potentially at West Brom but I could be wrong.
That explains it then....
Cheating is ok as long as it isn't at the same "level" as the opposition's cheating.
Shannerz
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He did. Very similar.
SkyblueTexan
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I’m not advocating for cheating. I didn’t mention the word “cheating” in any of what I wrote. So I don’t know where you’re getting that from.
SkyblueTexan
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I don’t recall and if he did, then I’m not in support of it. Refs at this level are poor and have been for a long while.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Millwall’s red card was ridiculous yesterday as it happens, DOGSO despite multiple defenders closing in. Officials just aren’t very good in this league and Southampton will get their karma for it soon enough.
long way home
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Problem is the ref sets the tone of the game the 1st foul was bad and went without even a glance. Then of course they take it in turns to do 2nd, 3rd and 4th equally as bad... They are pro's and no matter what team they will use and exploit weakness.
I thought the most blatant was Kitching getting a card for holding and 5 mins later EMC through and ref just waved play on. Both yellows but only 1 given and Lee Hendrie pointed out and stated that is why fans and managers get frustrated...
Poor ref, but we created enough to get a point, so its on us to why we lost.
I thought the most blatant was Kitching getting a card for holding and 5 mins later EMC through and ref just waved play on. Both yellows but only 1 given and Lee Hendrie pointed out and stated that is why fans and managers get frustrated...
Poor ref, but we created enough to get a point, so its on us to why we lost.
stupot07
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Nothing will happen - The difference is the ref saw them and gave freekicks, but wrongly did not card them. The reason BTA had retrospective action was because the referee had not seen it and was he not penalised at the time.
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Nothing will happen to the players, but the referee should be demoted a few more leagues for that shit.
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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Jay Dasilva tackle away at Southampton when he got sent off was no different to these two tackles.
In fact the one on Onyeka could have been a leg breaker.
Let's see if they take action if any, but don't hold your breath.
In fact the one on Onyeka could have been a leg breaker.
Let's see if they take action if any, but don't hold your breath.
Calista
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People endlessly moaning because fallible human beings, tasked in real time with governing 22 competitive elite athletes kicking a ball around a great big grass pitch, make some mistakes.
It's a cliche, but it evens out over the season. Individual incidents can be frustrating, but it never crosses my mind that we are being cheated by officials.
It's a cliche, but it evens out over the season. Individual incidents can be frustrating, but it never crosses my mind that we are being cheated by officials.
Otis
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Undoubtedly though, that referee yesterday was awful and he missed so much, or didn't punish players accordingly.
JimmyHillsbeard
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He got away with it, but the ref booked Sakamoto instead.
Agree with this. Think the one on EMC was in the box too so would've been a penalty.
In the end we should've taken some of our chances and wouldn't have lost. Especially the Haji header just before he was subbed.
Shannerz
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I agree. Referees are held to a higher standard than anyone else in the game, it seems.
They do need to be strong, though, and yesterday's wasn't. That's more problematic than how a tackle in the area is interpreted.
Shannerz
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I forgot about that!
robbiekeane
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I don’t think anyone suggests the referees are cheating us - more that they are incompetent.
They (the football authorities) need to fix it and make it more consistent. Not sure if that’s better training, more money, more officials, not what i’m paid for.
Hobo
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Yes but we do it too. I think BTA’s first touch on the ball he bought a foul. They actually played some quality one touch football on the break. A very talented side who came here to control the game. Not as low block as I thought they might be, but full of nouse.
Live and Die In These Townes intimidating during the pre match huddle. Most teams come out of it ready to kick off. Not Southampton, still had tracksuit tops on. Someone from bench walks on with a sack. Players stroll towards him taking tops off. It was all in our time not yours. One player geeing their fans up.
We still did enough to win or draw this game. It just wasn’t our day. I thought, especially first half our passing tempo was too slow. I don’t mind forwards, sideways, backwards but the passing has to be quick and crisp. We just got sucked into their slow tempo game plan. Basically they beat us at chess not football and a few armature dramatics.
Hobo
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For instance, the two goals we conceded was a result of piss poor defending and I am brave enough to say the goalkeeping was lacking in those moments.
I thought the penalty he gave us looked soft from where I was sat.
Next year hopefully we will have VAR , I think most of our fans will hate it. Also where I sit I think a lot of our fans while criticising referees get most things wrong. They certainly either ignore or don’t see our players pulling the opponents shirt.
clint van damme
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The penalty wasn't soft, he tripped Torp.
As for VAR, I'm dreading it. It absolutely sucks the joy out of football
Danceswithhorses
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Agreed - sky cameras showed he stood on Torp's foot
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I agree it's more human error/incompetence that results in the inconsistency.
But there are times where the decisions are so one sided during a single match you do start to wonder. Their players committing fouls all over the pitch and not getting book, then we do one or two and both players get booked. We have a striker backing into the defender and it's a free kick to them. They do the same and nothing is given (or even at times they get a free kick!). They time waste and nothing happens, we do it once and get booked.
Sometimes I think with the yellow cards for constant fouls maybe the ref has decided they're going to book the next player that does it and it happens to be one of our players, even though all the previous fouls have been by them. Though that I would categorise as incompetence because they should factor in who is making the fouls.
Of course there are games where get the rub of the green as well, but it definitely feels like it's fewer times than goes against us (though I will put that down to my own bias). Though having said that even in games where I'm impartial, such as PL, you do feel like certain teams get way more of the decisions go their way. For example a penalty for a team like Liverpool will never get given to a Burnley. Even sometimes with VAR the amount of time they seem to spend on some decisions involving bigger teams to give them the outcome is ridiculous, whereas other teams it's a cursory glance and 'nah!"
Hobo
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You are both missing “from where I sat”, also contact doesn’t necessarily constitute a foul. Just for consideration. Some weeks it wouldn’t be given (we have plenty of experience of that).
I was glad we got it, but I didn’t see it as a nailed on penalty.
Para1140
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36hrs later and Lampard is still living in the cheats heads
Seeing how angry this result made frank was nearly better than the three points. Nearly.
Posted 22 hours ago
Comfortable win. They barely created a decent chance all match.
All they do is sling it in the mixer. They are way off the standard of a typical Championship winner and if we hadn't wasted a quarter of the season with Still, we'd be strolling to the league title.
He’s a fist pumping twat. He lacks any class - you only need to look back at the end of the home game. Right prick
He's also Harry's nephew, so doubly a prick.
Love winning against Lampard. In fact any member of his wretched family.
He is getting fatter
Seeing how angry this result made frank was nearly better than the three points. Nearly.
Posted 22 hours ago
Comfortable win. They barely created a decent chance all match.
All they do is sling it in the mixer. They are way off the standard of a typical Championship winner and if we hadn't wasted a quarter of the season with Still, we'd be strolling to the league title.
He’s a fist pumping twat. He lacks any class - you only need to look back at the end of the home game. Right prick
He's also Harry's nephew, so doubly a prick.
Love winning against Lampard. In fact any member of his wretched family.
He is getting fatter