Yes they sold the ground and didn't we sell our ground and effectively sell our share of the ricoh
All other stadiums owned by local authorities don't have mortgages on them that need to be paid
lets screw the higgs trust into oblivion and they only saved the building of the ricoh otherwise we would have been homeless years ago
Yes they sold the ground and didn't we sell our ground and effectively sell our share of the ricoh
All other stadiums owned by local authorities don't have mortgages on them that need to be paid
lets screw the higgs trust into oblivion and they only saved the building of the ricoh otherwise we would have been homeless years ago
The mortgage is getting lower because of the amount of money Acl makes
The Higgs trust did not save the building of the Ricoh , they bought the clubs share of Acl from the club when the building
was already being built .
The mortgage is getting lower because of the amount of money Acl makes
The Higgs trust did not save the building of the Ricoh , they bought the clubs share of Acl from the club when the building
was already being built .
They paid £6 million and can refuse to sell to the tenants. It's a joke of an arrangement.
And if they had not bought the clubs share we would not have had a club and then possibly the stadium build could have become stalled half built
How good would have that been
They paid £6 million and can refuse to sell to the tenants. It's a joke of an arrangement.
Sorry but whatever you pay for anything even in a distressed state is the price that is going.
what right does any previous owner have to buy anything back
If the owner of my house demands that i sell them back he house that i own at a knock down price then it's a no from me and it would be a no from you also
So it's a hard nosed commercial decision? Fair enough but then let's not feel to sorry for the charity shall we?
At least the regeneration company that helped fund the Brittania offered the club a fair price. I guess they were just less profit focused.
And if they had not bought the clubs share we would not have had a club and then possibly the stadium build could have become stalled half built
How good would have that been
So they helped the club when we needed money by getting a share in a business at a knock down price.
They did not save the building of the stadium
But Grendel ACL make little profit and The higgs make nothing, it goes to paying off the mortgage quicker and just maybe they can then sell to an owner who they can trust at a similar price they paid plus interest.
Biggest problem can anyone trust sisu?
But Grendel ACL make little profit and The higgs make nothing, it goes to paying off the mortgage quicker and just maybe they can then sell to an owner who they can trust at a similar price they paid plus interest.
Biggest problem can anyone trust sisu?
We are though told the ground is a gold mine. ACL could make loads of money without the football club. Truth is they can't. The only reason we have any sponsors is the football club. The only reason there is a catering contract is the football club.
The club provides a major portion of revenue and I suspect a higher proportion of profit.
We are being ripped off.
I doubt anyone thinks the rent is fair but that was agreed and will obviously be lowered but the boot is on the other foot at the moment as we are not paying the rent
I doubt anyone thinks the rent is fair but that was agreed and will obviously be lowered but the boot is on the other foot at the moment as we are not paying the rent
Well I think they've already made plenty -- all in the name of charity of course.
And their 67% rent reduction was dismissed as being wholly untrue. Both sides are playing games with the future of CCFC.
CJparker;321727To repeat said:Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it so, the fact that ACL has dropped do far, so fast would suggest your wrong.
yes there are other teams that rent you did not include Leeds in your averages , why is it to high for your averages and well if joy said or for that matter tim said then it is fact
Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it so, the fact that ACL has dropped do far, so fast would suggest your wrong.
Also, don't you think someone on here or ACL would've come out and said, no TF, no Joy, no SISU, your figures are wrong? :thinking about:
1. I've asked for a link to the Football League study JS quoted as I couldn't find it anywhere. No one has provided it as far as I can recall.
2. It's immaterial anyway, the amount paid by each club will depend on the particular circumstances at each club.
3. ACL don't have to engage in the PR guff from JS and TF. They'll know their incomings, outgoings and what they would need from CCFC to make its presence worthwhile. Average rent won't matter to them - just the figure they need the club to pay to make its residency feasible.
4. As Grendel accepts, the rent argument may just be a smokescreen for trying to force ACL into distress.
If that's the cases you have to admire the Gordon Gekko size balls of SISU. Not that I want them to ever have there hands on any part of the ground, then we truly would be fecked.
Why a league 1 average SBT? The Ricoh is not a league one ground in size or cost. Why not run a study of comparably sized grounds like Leicester, Southampton etc?
You right in your description but I in no way admire it. I would not trust these people to take my rubbish out, never mind run CCFC, but trust is key to running a club alongside otherstakeholders.
As per your other comment about the 67% reduction offer "proving" the rent is too high, this just shows that SISU know they have ACL over a barrel with no other potential tenant to replace CCFC, so Joy "Gekko" Seppala is threatening them with leaving, knowing they have to agree.
Different circumstances, yes, but it doesn't mean the landlord, in our case, the council and a charity (who should look to protect CCFC's best interest) can rip off the tenant and charge over market value.
You right in your description but I in no way admire it. I would not trust these people to take my rubbish out, never mind run CCFC, but trust is key to running a club alongside otherstakeholders.
As per your other comment about the 67% reduction offer "proving" the rent is too high, this just shows that SISU know they have ACL over a barrel with no other potential tenant to replace CCFC, so Joy "Gekko" Seppala is threatening them with leaving, knowing they have to agree.
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